Helmet Reflection Apollo 12

[Elvis Hendrix]

Looks pretty strange to me............How about the possibility of a reflection from any reflective piece on the near-side (to him) of what he is holding in his hand?? 

I do have a question this photo, and visor reflection - - is a "line of horizon" on the moon always as close as depicted in this pic. It is a bright sun shiny day, and the view seems to show the horizon not very far behind him, and the relection of the frontal horizon on his visor appears to be only a few steps away, into the darkness. I would have thought that the moon is big enough that when standing on a flat surface area, one could see for several miles (klicks) in any direction?? Seems a little "staged" to me!

Well, I did a little looking, and found a "horizon distance chart" for the moon, with relevance to hight of observation. I can't post a screenshot of the chart, but I can post a link to it. It does show that at a height of 2 metres the horizon distance is 2.6 kilometres, which would be about 1.8 miles, in any direction. Doesn't look that far to me, in the photo!!!!!

http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/AASM5B.html

Exactly.
This is the quandary, most if not all shots of moon Eva's show a very close horizon.
Which brings in the eternal question,of we're they there at all?

That shot has always looked to me like the object was either floating or suspended not too far from Conrad.
So it is either an object observing the astronauts, or a part of the set hoaxing the scene.

Elvis.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

On the horizon question, I think it's an obtical illusion. Gently sloping hills will give that same effect..IMHO....

[zorgon]

The Spacecraft in the Helmet Reflection...

...is a Peek-A-Boo class spacecraft that is seen in many photos observing the astronauts

Though the name sounds silly (no sillier than NASA "Blue Berries" on Mars named becasue the guy was eating a muffin at the time) it was coined by ValHall, Springer's wife, at ATS when she first spotted the one in Copernicus Crater in John's moon thread

Here it is in  AS14-66-9295  (Apollo 14)





Close up... no other enhancement...



So... it is either an alien spacecraft watching over  them OR It is a light fixture or something in the studio

[zorgon]

The Peek-A-Boo Class got it's name because the first one we found in Copernicus looked like it was peeking out at us   I will post it here... These craft appear with a large central hub with various smaller parts attached by tubes....

The one in Copernicus we also found in the other image top view. It was also the spot that Childress had in his book... the book and image that first caught John's attention that started him hunting anomalies on the moon....

Spaceship on the Moon
Copernicus  Crater
18-25 November, 1966 and 6-18 August, 1967

One version is a simple enlargement the second is color high lighted



The Image above is from Copernicus #2 part of LO-III-162-M3, the image provide by John Lear. All the Copernicus Images original .bmp format and the Grid maps etc. can be downloaded at the end of this page. It is my firm belief that this is some form of space craft consisting of Spheres and tubes, of which some are visible on this ridge. The location is on the top of the large rubble heap on the tier below the "Box"
This image was taken 18-25 November 1966



The Image above is from Copernicus #5. It is right on the top of the rubble heap. Based on careful position calculations, this is the same spot as the previous location. There are lots of artificial looking objects in the image, but for now we are going to concentrate on the green highlighted area.
This image was taken 6-18 August 1967
Look closely and you can see a large central sphere connected to smaller spheres giving the effect of a molecule model. There is a squarish reverse "c" shape connected to the group of spheres via thin "v'" shaped lines.

Though this may seem an odd shape for a spaceship, there is a very good reason that I believe this to be exactly that.


Copernicus #5  - Enigma T


Copernicus #5  - Enigma A

The above two images show two more of the spacecraft again showing spheres, connecting lines and the "c" shaped object. The one on the right even shows what appears to be a shadow showing spheres and lines. Below is a .gif version of the same ships.


Copernicus #5  - Enigma T


Copernicus #5  - Enigma T

[zorgon]

Spaceship above the Moon
Apollo 16 Image
April 21, 1972



Full size...



The Image above is Apollo 16 image number AS16-111-18035HR. Within the yellow box is the ship that looks identical to the one sitting in Copernicus Crater. Click on the above image and zoom in on the area marked by the yellow box...


Normal view on left then rotated 90 degrees

The image on the right is clipped from the picture above... the one on the left is rotated clockwise to better show the comparison to the object in Copernicus # 5.

So here again we have the spheres connected by lines and the squarish "C" shape, only this time it is in the sky ABOVE the moon... and hanging over the Apollo landing site.
This image was taken shortly after April 21, 1972

[Somamech]

Oddly it seems the great 'pedia of knowledge doesn't have the Anchor Symbol in the rank and file listings

But we can see that the ol anchor Symbol does occur all the same

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_officer_rank_insignia

[zorgon]

Spaceship on the Moon
Apollo 17 Image
December 12, 1972


Apollo 17 Video Capture
Tsiolkovsky Crater - Farside

The Image above is a screen capture from an Apollo 17 video that was sent to me by one of the group here. I have not seen this around the web circuit (though it may be there are so many sites out there) It is a 4 minute clip... the astronaut talking is giving a narration... but no mention of the object is made... you can hear bits of a second conversation in the background, most likely talking on the other secured channel. Half way through the background speaker make some exclamations of surprise.

Link to the Video is Here

Maybe Sarge could transfer this to a You Tube video for me (PM me I have an idea in mind)



This is a close up best quality I could create. And here you can see the squarish "c" shape, the spheres and the connecting lines... Looking at the video it is clear that the Astronauts are focusing on the white object. And if you look at the crater out of focus behind it you will see that the objects is in the sky not on the ground
This image was taken around December 12, 1972

[zorgon]

Spaceship on the Moon
Apollo 11 Image


Apollo 11
a11pan5913-16EvM.jpg

Close up...



This image was sent to me by an anonymous source. The picture above is a greatly reduced version of the original and the anomaly is lost. You need to click on the image to get the original from NASA and search in the area indicated. NASA editors missed this one as it needs a little gamma adjustment to bring up the image.

But here once again we have another sample of the little anomaly that has been nicknamed "Peekaboo". Turns out the nick name is not so far off, as this object just keeps peeking out at us in many images

The original image is found on the picture link and the Source is...

NASA  - Apollo Lunar Surface Journal

[zorgon]

"Peekaboo" in Earth's Atmosphere
Atlantis  STS-115












The series of captures is from a video from NASA archives as they film the booster falling back to Earth. About half way through the video the white object comes into view and moves through the frames, rotating as it does so. Below is a link to the original video from NASA




Video from NASA Archives

[ArMaP]

Armap, what can you see inside the helmet that could possibly create those internal reflections?

I was not talking about internal reflections, I was talking about things seen through the visor, things that can be seen because the visor is not opaque or 100% reflective.

I don't have any idea of what it could be, I was just pointing to the fact that just because we are looking at a reflective surface we shouldn't forget that's also a transparent surface.

[Ellirium113]

Here is another one maybe worthy of another look...



In this picture it looks to me as if there is a shadow of a guy with a tripod taking this photo. Thought they mounted cameras on the suits?



Should the tripod not be there in some other picture? Might be nothing.

[rdunk]

Zorgon, in your pic of the object above the surface of the moon that has several bright lights, or some type of light(s) shining off of it ------to our right and down to about 4:00 oclock position, there is another object of some sort. It is likely farther away, but it does seem to be eliptical with a darker area in its center, as we see it in a vertical plane. It is a little brighter than anything else around the area. I magified your pic several times, and made it more obvious.

No screenshots, so can't post it, but, maybe you can find it too!   

[ArMaP]

So... it is either an alien spacecraft watching over  them OR It is a light fixture or something in the studio

Or something else.

There are some photos (I think at least 2) in which we can see those blue "lights"between the camera and the ground.

[The Seeker]

Here is another one maybe worthy of another look...



In this picture it looks to me as if there is a shadow of a guy with a tripod taking this photo. Thought they mounted cameras on the suits?



Should the tripod not be there in some other picture? Might be nothing.

perhaps my eyes are tired, but i am not seeing the man with the tripod...

[Elvis Hendrix]

Hey Z that is a coincidence mate.
I did that video also a couple of years ago.



I think the naration (comms) is the key.

Elvis.