So Who Put That Flag On The Moon?

[Mikesingh]

Check out the images below. In the first one you can see footprints galore in the foreground. But there are no footprints in the area of the flag! So how or who or when was it placed there?





Zoomed...



So, where are the footprints? If the flagpole could just be pushed through the surface (As there's no sign of digging the pole in) it means it's soft ground. All the more reason there should have been  footprints around it. But zilch! Is it another cut and paste job? Or am I getting old with a failing eyesight?   

Cheers!

[Mikesingh]

Ah! No answers yet!! Ok, so here's another one...

Where are the tire tracks of the rover in the image below? Just a couple of feet away and we don't see nothing! Was it placed there by a crane?  Or is it rocky surface? But then, a footprint is clearly visible nearby indicating otherwise.



Cheers! 

[Lunica]

Haha, these ones i didnt know of 

Ah well, there are way tot many inconsistencies in this moon thingy.
They surely dont want to give us THE images from the moon.


But...

This vid:


And this post from member Saint Exupery on ATS:

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Bart Sibrel's video argues that this television footage was made in low Earth orbit, rather than on the way to the Moon. The images of Earth, he claims, are either black cardboard with a round hole cut out, or a transparency. Note right there that these are mutually exclusive - If he doesn't know, then he is just guessing without evidence. In fact, there is evidence, but it doesn't support either of Sibrel's conjectures.

The website & videos Phage referenced show that the behavior of the Earth images is in no way consistent with something attached to the window itself. I looked at the content of the Earth images.

In the first day-and-a-half of the mission there were three live television transmissions from the Apollo 11 spacecraft, which showed the Earth out the window. At about the same time as each of these transmissions, the astronauts also photographed the Earth using a 70mm Hasselblad camera. These provide exceptionally high resolution images. Here are frame grabs from each of the three transmissions, with a photograph taken at about the same time for comparison.

Note that the cloud patterns match:











The features I highlighted are:
A.) Summer monsoons over Arizona
B.) Rain over the Midwest
C.) Rain over western Canada
D.) A cold front moving down from Canada into the northcentral and northeastern US.
E.) Summer thunderstorms over the southeastern states
F.) A separate storm cell over southern Florida
G.) A separate storm system over the Texas gulf coast.

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Apparently they did come further then expected that day? Apollo 11 it is.

or?!?!

I am confused

Lunica

[Darren1976]

Haha, these ones i didnt know of 


Note that the cloud patterns match:

Now that IS a good find!!! Never seen that comparison before, thanks very much for that!!

[Mikesingh]

Good one that, Lunica! Well, I'll be darned! There seem to be lots of fishy goings-on out there!

And then what about the Japanese JAXA probe to the Moon, photographed in true HD!! Oh yeah? Now take a peek at this image taken from the official JAXA video. I noticed strange similarities around many craters there. This one is near the Apollo 17 landing site, the photographs of which were supposedly  beamed down by JAXA. This has been enunciated further by Keith Laney when I sent it to him for his comments...



Notice the similar little objects around all those craters? So was it a paste job sitting in a studio here? And why? Was the video meant to be just eye candy for the public? But why fudge it?

Cheers!

[Lunica]

HAHA Mike,

What a show!!   

I am actually crying

[Mikesingh]

And check out craters No 2 and 5. Look carefully. THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE SAME!!! WTF is going on??



 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

And check out craters No 2 and 5. Look carefully. THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE SAME!!! WTF is going on??



 

No, they are not the same. There are subtle differences. IMO

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Check out the images below. In the first one you can see footprints galore in the foreground. But there are no footprints in the area of the flag! So how or who or when was it placed there?





Zoomed...



So, where are the footprints? If the flagpole could just be pushed through the surface (As there's no sign of digging the pole in) it means it's soft ground. All the more reason there should have been  footprints around it. But zilch! Is it another cut and paste job? Or am I getting old with a failing eyesight?   

Cheers!

Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there. Different angle could show prints. Also a different topo, less dust could be a factor too...IMO

[Dood]

I am NO expert at all about such matters...
However, I do see 'something like' foot prints behind the flag.
(Look at the zoomed photo)
Then again I am not on a very good PC.
I am on one that has no video card and it has an old CRT monitor. (15")

[Somamech]

Sorry couldn't help myself...

Maybe the caption should be "Hang on Houston I didn't step there and now we are screwing up the story...'This is Houston over, shut up, the story will wash for many a year" 

[Captain Dave]

Well, I don't know if anybody here was watching MTV back in the 80's, but they used footage like that all the time. Footprints there/ Footprints gone - a decent artist can create all the subtle nuances to make the viewer see what ever they want.

Look at movies like Transformers - Shows like StarGate...

To me the question is how long have we had the tech to manipulate photography extensively? I would say since photography was invented. By the time moon missions rolled around, we were Pro's at it.

In todays age, as an artist, and a tech, I know for fact that I can work in pixel layers using existing photography and create a forgery so real that no one could prove it wasn't real. Ergo, my philosophy is to not believe what I see (though it is great fun to let my imagination run wild because to me imagination is the key to the everything).

If it was first created by a human then it can be manipulated and changed by another human.

Like a chess game, how many moves ahead are you thinking...
If I wanted to fool somebody using photography then I would be adding things and sloppily "removing" them so as to lead the viewer down a "primrose path" - leading them to whatever conclusion I wanted them to have. Psych 101

Every medium is a "canvas" of some sort that can be manipulated - Sight-Sound-Auto Suggestion Etc...

Sooo, where is the Truth then? Where is the Proof then? I suppose the answer would be in the greatness of your own need to know, and how far you are willing to go to find it.

WARNING

Once you go through some doors, you aren't allowed to come back. 

Psh, I could be wrong though... after all, I'm just trillions of cells working together to form a biological machine that lives on a planet floating in space somewhere in the Universe.

[Captain Dave]

From an artists perspective I think they do an Awesome job.
(at distracting - ball and cup - bait and switch...)
But this is 2012... The term "way beyond your wildest dreams" comes to mind.

[Mikesingh]

No, they are not the same. There are subtle differences. IMO

Sgt! Here it is again. Look Carefully. You've gotta have an eye for detail. Since I have done a lot of interpretation of sat as well as aerial pics (For identification of targets) for CAS and interdiction, I do feel there is a lot of similarity - in fact the two craters and surroundings are the same with the upper one rotated approx 5 degrees to the left. Check out the arrows on both images ...



Cheers! 

[Captain Dave]

Blue= Mirrored image flipped
Red= Duplicate with modification
Green= Duplicate with modification
(just picked out what I thought looked obvious)