Why Anonymous are not to be trusted

[Glaucon]

IOW, just assume it's what the media says it is?  That Anonymous gets the kind of media coverage it does speaks volumes about what it is--and isn't.

Hi Logos.

Please concentrate on this particular statementL

From my perspective, your curiosity in "psyops" and what the nature of the threat  is....quite literally makes you employ precisely what you perceive you're protecting yourself from.

[Ellirium113]

Anonymous has made all sorts of wild claims about bringing the global cabal to it's knees and yet here we are still firmly under their rule. Anonymous has done nothing to improve the well being of humanity. Just another pimple on the ass of the world IMO.

[Logos]

Hi Logos.

Please concentrate on this particular statementL

I said nothing about any "threat".

[zorgon]

Anonymous has made all sorts of wild claims about bringing the global cabal to it's knees and yet here we are still firmly under their rule.

That would be nice to see   

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Leave ol' 'W' alone.

[thorfourwinds]

... Anonymous has done nothing to improve the well being of humanity. Just another pimple on the ass of the world IMO.

Greetings:

Nothing?

Your apparent ignorance and unwarranted bias is uncalled for.

Please go back and actually comprehend what this thread is about and
see if your statement stands the test of truth.

With great respect,
tfw
on the road on our tablet
awaiting snow in N Georgia...

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I don't think he's ignorant nor unwarranted bias. I believe your looking in a mirror Thor when making those comments.

With great respect 

[thorfourwinds]

Anonymous has done nothing to improve the well being of humanity.

So, Sarge, You are backing Ellirium113's claim 100% ?

... as to NOTHING?   

Yes, I have a bias, hardly unwarranted, and I am hardly ignorant on the subject of Anonymous.

Let's review:

Published on Feb 25, 2013
Bank of America Exposed.




Published on Jul 3, 2014





Published on May 8, 2013









Published on May 3, 2013
The story of Anonymous is really a clash between two organizing structures - the network, and the hierarchy.

For intelligence agencies like the FBI and for governments, they're a problem that needs solving; but if Anonymous is just a fluid collective of people choosing to associate with an idea, can that idea be stopped?

Published on Feb 28, 2014

Greetings Citizens of the World:

What is Freedom of Speech?

And why is it relevant to society?

Most people respond that freedom of speech is the right to say whatever you want or to voice your own opinion.

While this makes all of you feel better knowing (thinking...tfw) you won't be murdered by your government for speaking your mind, this is just a minor point in its relevancy to society.

Few people realize that actions are really what enables society to progress through freedom of speech.

MLK's 'I have a dream speech' was not nearly as important as the simple act of a black man, in those times, walking up to the podium to speak for the oppressed.

Freedom of speech is changing your online habits to avoid NSA spying.

Freedom of speech is all of the small choices you make daily that you don't even think about.

In the age of the internet people still fail to realize that real life and internet, while connected, are not one and the same. On the internet you are given the choice to choose how you represent yourself.

In real life, you are represented by the way you look, by the color of your skin, by the clothes you wear, by your accent, by your gender and many other arbitrary things.

On the internet, none of these things matter.

Considering this: imagine an account on Twitter had images of swastikas and they said the word "nigger." Most people pass by that account assuming they are inherently racist. The internet is made up of free speech and symbolism displayed on a screen. Its not made up of anything tangible.

It's 2013, and people are still offended by words and symbols on a screen.

4chan has used words and symbolism not to define itself, but to keep out the people that have failed to understand them in real life.

People that don't get their jokes and fail to grasp the simple ideas spread around.

Maybe the Twitter account posting swastikas just wanted to offend you and keep you out of their mentions.

Recently @anon_central was suspended for allegedly d0xing someone.

First off, the person posting most of that was being an idiot but they didn't d0x anyone.

What was posted was a link that was in the top search on google.com.

They also did not create the images posted. Were they suspended for linking content that already existed?

Are you going to be happy when you get suspended for posting a link that you found on google? Did they cause you to have feels and butthurts?

Or did they create a platform in which people discussed other relevant issues about rape that rarely get discussed?

Even the "negatives" of free speech are relevant to society.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you get to choose who gets to use it.

Recent revelations about NSA spying have back the terrible phrase, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

This is a statement that gets put out without any real rebuttal to why or how it is so detrimental to the growth of society.

We know that people willing give up liberty for security in our "Free" society. I feel they would be less inclined to if they knew the harm it caused.

Spying is censorship.

If you believe that everything you type up on a digital device,
or the words you say on a cell phone are be listened to,
you will begin to censor yourself.

You start becoming afraid that the people spying may not understand what it is you are trying to say and think you have malicious intent.

We have seen this happen too many times. We have the Facebook rapper, the Tumblr experiment, the airport sandwich guy and so on.

Spying forces people to revoke their own freedom of expression.

Further reading:

More Hacktivism and Cyberwarfare:? 3D printed gun 'removed from internet': http://bit.ly/10UFTQD

Syria's internet blackout and the propaganda war: http://bit.ly/19mI3xr

Who are LulzSec?: http://bit.ly/19mI58A

Are cyber attacks the future of warfare?: http://bit.ly/13h6nxp

Birgitta Jonsdottir, Bitcoin & The Economist: Can we govern ourselves in a digital age?

Live debate: http://bit.ly/17oQgVm

Is trying to stop online piracy a waste of time?: http://bit.ly/15IxkBb

Truthloader meets Anonymous: http://bit.ly/12rjVJ2

Silk Road and the online drugs trade: http://bit.ly/169rmJF

How to get through the Great Firewall of China: http://bit.ly/ZXeoqA

Let's create a New World.
A world of peace and justice,
A world of reason, a world in which every
person has everything needed so we can evolve together.



With great respect,

tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

[thorfourwinds]

And this just now...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anonymous?src=hash

Or did Y'all forget Scientology, pedophiles, Egypt Spring... 

[ArMaP]

And this just now...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Anonymous?src=hash

Or did Y'all forget Scientology, pedophiles, Egypt Spring... 

Could you tell us (the ones that don't follow the Anonymous trend) what did they did regarding Scientology, paedophiles and the so called Egypt Spring?

Thanks in advance.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

So if someone doesn't agree with you they're ignorant and biased? Oh how godly of you. Please excuse us ignorant biased non believers. Please  forgive us oh great one. You of the simmering flashing gifs.
On bended knee to your all knowing greatness!

[ArMaP]

So if someone doesn't agree with you they're ignorant and biased? Oh how godly of you. Please excuse us ignorant biased non believers. Please  forgive us oh great one. You of the simmering flashing gifs.
On bended knee to your all knowing greatness!

But he adds "Peace Love Light" at the end of his posts, so everything is OK. 

[thorfourwinds]

Anonymous has done nothing to improve the well being of humanity.

Ignorance (no offense was intended) implies that One 'perhaps overlooked' (in their due diligence in order to comment coherently on this subject) or perhaps 'conveniently' missed these, among numerous other instances where We, the People, voice their concerns.

BTW, there are esteemed members of PRC and Alpha Tango Sierra who were actively involved in Code Name "Egypt Spring" / Operation Egypt and ...   

We Are You   

Bias is where One looks for the negative in all instances concerning 'Anonymous' without sufficient background to make such all-encompassing statements.

2011-01-29 No Internet? No Problem! Anonymous Faxes Egypt

Dear Citizens of the World:

Anonymous cannot, and will not stand idly while people are being denied their basic rights and human liberties.

Yet, there are still a lot of governments worldwide who fail to even aspire to the standard of freedom that was set by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These governments believe they have the right and privilege to impose upon their own people an 'official' version of 'reality' which isn't in any way tampered by the truths of everyday life under which its citizens are living.

Anonymous believes this is an outright crime which can not go unpunished.

The Egyptian people are living under inhumane conditions; being denied their basic rights to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, and the free access to information. By imposing censorship upon its own people and condemning these freedoms, the Egyptian government has revealed itself to be criminal, and has made itself an enemy of Anonymous.

To the Egyptian Government:
Anonymous challenges all those who are involved in censorship.

Anonymous wants you to offer free access to uncensored media in your entire country. When you ignore this message, not only will we attack your government websites, Anonymous will also make sure that the international media sees the horrid reality you impose upon your people. Anonymous will not spare anybody who supports this suppression.

It is in the hands of the Egyptian government to end this: continue your repression and you will be subject to civil protest - lend an ear to the claim of freedom from your people and the hostilities will cease.

To the Egyptian people:
We stand together and united against this oppression.

This struggle is not just for you alone, but for the whole of humankind. Citizens can no longer endure their governments abuse. When forced by the threat of oppression, we will be loud as hell - and when the people roar, it will send shivers down the spines of all those who stifle our freedom and take our precious liberties away.

Anonymous are your brothers and sisters, your sons and daughters, your parents and your friends, regardless of age, gender, race, religion, ethnicity, or place of birth.

Anonymous is you.

You will not be denied your right to free speech, free press, free association and your universal right to freely access information, both in real life and through the internet.

Join us on the IRC - irc.anonops.ru #opEgypt !

Join us in this battle for freedom of information worldwide!

For as Khalil Gibran once said: "Life without Freedom is like a body without a soul, and Freedom without Thought is like a confused spirit... Life, Freedom and Thought are three-in-one, and are everlasting and shall never pass away."


Anonymous Internet Users Help Egypt Communicate


Operation Egypt - Anonymous' most memorable hacks - Pictures - CBS News


Egypt versus the internet – Anonymous hackers launch DDoS attack-Naked Security


Egyptian Government Web Site Shut Down by Hackers - NYTimes.com


Anonymous 'hacktivists' attack Egyptian websites - NBC News


Egyptian Anonymous-Facebook


Amid Digital Blackout, Anonymous Mass-Faxes WikiLeaks Cables To Egypt


We close with this, and ask all three of you: Ellirium113, ArMaP and Sgt.Rocknroll to comment on this video and please not continue to attack the messenger - although "...your all knowing greatness" was recorded as potential enlightenment on Sarge's part - or not   

Sarge, You may now rise from bended knee (and, in the future, please reserve genuflection for Zorgon).   

Published on Aug 3, 2014



tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

No! You're NOT me. And I'm not YOU. I don't care what forum you belong to. Esteemed or not! And you NEVER intend to offend.

I think I've made my point. Good night! 

[Ellirium113]

We close with this, and ask all three of you: Ellirium113, ArMaP and Sgt.Rocknroll to comment on this video and please not continue to attack the messenger - although "...your all knowing greatness" was recorded as potential enlightenment on Sarge's part - or not

Well lets see...

Anonymous was going to provide evidence of extraterrestrials...where is it?
http://www.voiceofgreyhat.com/2012/05/anonymous-vows-to-release-evidence-of.html


Anonymous has vowed to destroy facebook in 2011... yet it is still here:

Hacker Group "Anonymous" Vows to Destroy Facebook on November 5th>They released a video message saying that "the medium of communication we all so dearly adore will be destroyed". How they plan to do this, they didn't say. But if history is to be based upon, then you can expect them to literally take down Facebook and make it unavailable...

Then again in 2011 they were going to attack the Federal Reserve. This was merely a DOS attack.  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/anonymous_plats_assault_on_federal_reserve/

Yhen yet again in 2011 they were going to shut down Fox news...They are still here.
http://www.politicususa.com/2011/10/24/anonymous-fox-news.html

They have vowed to take out the illuminati at least since 2012...yet they are still here:
http://commonsenseconspiracy.com/2012/03/anonymous-challenges-the-illuminati-claims-it-can-read-illuminati-messages-and-symbols/

Then in 2013 they were going to shut down Guantanamo...it is still here.

"We stand in solidarity with the Guantanamo hunger strikers. We will shut down Guantanamo," Anonymous' online statement reads.

The group did not detail how it is would achieve this goal, but promised "twitterstorms, email bombs and fax bombs" would be part of its anti-Gitmo efforts. The group said mass protests would take place from May 17 to 19.

http://rt.com/news/anonymous-guantanamo-protest-opgtmo-947/

2013...they were going to wipe Israel off cyberspace...they are still here.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/296946.html

July 2014 they were going to unleash their wrath on the US lawmakers...They are still functioning just fine.
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/anonymous-video-wrath-cisa-cybersecurity-capitol-police/

They were going to attack the NYSE...it's still here.

Considering Anonymous claims next Monday will be a day "that will never be forgotten," we can only surmise that they intend to attack the physical stock exchange of the NYSE itself, rather than the web site of the NYSE, although the threat to "erase" the NYSE suggets a simple Denial of Service (DOS) attack is more likely.

Anonymous has so far attacked the web sites of various financial institutions around the world, as well as organizations they believe to be operating against the interests of the general public, but they have yet to do any significant damage. They threatened to take down Facebook (for some bizarre reason), but nothing happened. Of course, this unimpressive track record would change dramatically if they were to take down the NYSE on Monday.

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/2011/10/anonymous-vows-to-attack-the-nyse/

While their cause may be noble and they have made and carried out minor threats, I will not hold my breath waiting for them to do much of anything that is significant to alter the course of our future. Unless of course you count the theft of credit information as a major contributing factor (not sure how this helped us maybe you could explain?). You may turn purple if you like.