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Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

Started by zorgon, November 03, 2013, 01:52:52 AM

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robomont

One thing i would change on that statement above is the engine.the super conducting magnet rings are cooled to liquid nitrogen temp.and the mercury plasma may be at a high level.250,000 atmospheres.thats 250,000  x 15psi=3,750,000psi.
I dont think its feasible to build a vessel that could hold that pressure and not be a weight issue.

I agree that it probly disrupts the gravity of whatever its bottom is pointed at.it would make sense that earth is 89% and other gasses around the craft are the other 11% including the moon.
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deuem

Robo, you read my mind and let me write what I was told when I talked to PWM about it.

He said it has nothing to do with the walls of the tube. The gas fills the tube when the machine is off but once the cycle is started it is then pushed around by magnents and a field squezes the gas down to this pressure. The higher the field the more the squeze. So the tube could be anything that could hold the gas at sea level and have the magnets hang on it. Like a collider.

Just guessing here but if the tube was say, 2 feet in dia, the gas would be sent down to less than a pencils diameter. It would still do all of that twirling even in that size. A failure would just bring the gas back to normal size annd the ship would fall.

If this field was at 89% just to hover and it started to drop to say 50% then the ship would fall slowly because the 3 corner jets could not take the weight. They were having problems with them also. Once this craft goes over on its side it is like a turtle and cant get back up. Not a fighter jet! I guess this why they always stay level to Earth. At least at slow speeds. At high speeds you could use inertia to swing you around.

So it might just be that with that tube the magnet system is all the weight and not the tube or gas. They just play with the gas.

Deuem

robomont

If its gas jets.i dont think they are when it should be just as easy to make smaller circles.if the craft rolled over then it should be easy to roll it over using one or two corners.if in the air.
After thinking more.just like the two magnet theory.orientation didnt matter.so it may not matter with the craft.
What pwm said sounds close to correct.

If china pays you deuem for this intel.i better get a kickback.im sure pwm and elvis may wants something to.since china just bought detroit.ill take that off there hands.
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Dumbledore

robomont

A 3d animated rendering of that would be cool.any takers?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

deuem

I agree that in full magnet mode it should not matter to the craft which way is up and the video does show that. They warped out while they were on their side. I think it matters when they are in hover mode only. That flying should be harder than warp. The wobble, The gravity and so on.

IMHO: If they were in Hover a few miles above that area and had a short circuit of some naure they would fall even on half power. They did something and got it under control for a second or two and then it failed almost 100% and went into more of a free fall. At this time if you watch the video, they kicked the nose around to the left and must have hit the backups and took off. Scotty, I need more power. Now Scotty, Now! Sounds familiar..

Follow the nose from the first jump to the last one and you will see that they do indeed turn the craft to point the nose to the left. So this craft is directional and must have rear thrusters as some have said. They are only using the magnetics to displace the weight. IMHO:

I really wish I had the Camera details. ArMaP, any luck on the research?

robomont

If the ship is that big.it should be easier to control than if it was a small fighter plane.plus im sure they have self leveling switch that could take control.maybe the control circuit that powers all the functions was shorting.loose lug on bus bar?
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

ArMaP

Quote from: deuem on November 15, 2013, 12:59:54 AM
ArMaP, any luck on the research?
No, the only reference for this case is this YouTube video.
It looks like there have been some sightings on that place (apparently, the name is wrong, it should be Wormerveer and not Wormeveer), in other years.

deuem

Yes robo, there are always ghosts in the machines. After all, ever a feather will fall to Earth. The more complex a toy is, the more that can go wrong.

Someone had asked me to look into the trialgle over Paris video. Ok I did. For me IMHO it is 100% garbage CGI. Not even 1 good field, just an overlay mix to the video. I processed about 10 frames and they were all the same. If you step frame the video there are a lot of duplicate frames and most of all in the end where it whites out, that is what it does. Goes white screen, not white field. Even a White gradiant will produce a field. A gradiant field but something. I will keep that book open but for now it is on the BS CGI shelf. On the shelf means the case is still open and not in the garbage. If any of you want to open it with other ideas, be my guest. And we can see the ship.  Hum!

deuem

Quote from: ArMaP on November 15, 2013, 01:39:06 AM
No, the only reference for this case is this YouTube video.
It looks like there have been some sightings on that place (apparently, the name is wrong, it should be Wormerveer and not Wormeveer), in other years.

So why let that stop you, dig into the people that posted it, did into everything you can find, get the original. If you hit Dutch then let PWM help. Sharpen the shovel...Police reports, newspaper reports. Other vids or photos. Find a trail and blood hound it. Don't give up so fast.

How many Wormerveers are there? Can't be that many of them. Where do they live and so on.

Deuem

ArMaP

Quote from: deuem on November 15, 2013, 02:04:29 AM
So why let that stop you, dig into the people that posted it, did into everything you can find, get the original.
Who said I was stopping? :)

QuoteHow many Wormerveers are there? Can't be that many of them. Where do they live and so on.
As far as I understand it, there's only one Wormerveer, the place where this video was supposedly made.

deuem

Quote from: ArMaP on November 15, 2013, 02:18:12 AM
Who said I was stopping? :)  My bad. Sorry! miss read u

As far as I understand it, there's only one Wormerveer, the place where this video was supposedly made. Ok, that should narrow the field down some.

robomont

Your killing me deuem.thats my favorite vid.

The vid has been copied like ten times on youtube.the original person even complained that others were stealing it and claiming as there.its even been relabled in one case as being over another city.to put something in night vision and then making the plasma ball expand twice plus using a new military style craft thats posted as a black plane makes me think its real.somebody went above and beyond to fake it if its a fake.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

deuem

Robo sorry for the stake in the chest. The quality of that video is so poor that I can not get any thing to work. Even in some phone videos I can get stuff. That is why it is not in the Deuem Garbage yet. If you or any one can get the original or a copy of it not a tenth generation I will look at it again, no problem. I think I wrote before, that even in a copy of a copy if the fields are there they never go away, just get more distorted. When it whites out the screen it is the same thing they even do in star wars. they add a white frame. When run it looks like a burst or flash.

As of right now it looks like a model was filmed and they added all of the FX and layered into the sky.

Again this is my HO for what I have to work with now.....

A sneek peek just for you, I had trashed the workups but did 3 more for this post.
 
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This blast of power should have lit up the sky and it did nothing for me but get larger.





And this one is done with Balloons where every pixel is changed and nothing hides but looks bad.



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Top work kids. I'm gonna do more digging when I get into work today.
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undo11

are you still referring to the op video? 
that thing is moving just like a kite.
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