Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

[robomont]

Well then i challenge the naysayers to show a vid of a tr3b that 100%real or any ufo vid that is 100% real  beyond a shadow of a doubt.its way easier to be a debunker than to be a verifier.a debunkers reputation very rarely gets hurt by debunking.it takes time and guts to say i believe its real.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Ok, Robo you win,,it's real....

[robomont]

I am having a bad day.kinda grouchy.
Deuem works real hard to nit pick these vids for us and then folks fly in and just take swipes at his work.if we are a real research group then thorough debunking should be the way we work.we are a team and i hold no sway one way or another.maybe i expect too much of my colleages but i expect it of myself as well.maybe i need a break .i try to be the best i can be.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

I'll try not to fly in too often anymore and I promise not to nit pick anymore...

I'm not a scientist, researcher or any other professional except 3d mechanical designer.

I give my opinion. Am I correct? I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

There was a time when I would get pissed at what I considered un-necessary or  what I considered personal attacks.

not anymore...I take it or leave it...

Peace
Rock

[Ellirium113]

Well then i challenge the naysayers to show a vid of a tr3b that 100%real or any ufo vid that is 100% real  beyond a shadow of a doubt.its way easier to be a debunker than to be a verifier.a debunkers reputation very rarely gets hurt by debunking.it takes time and guts to say i believe its real.

What does it matter? We HAVE been presented with REAL UFO pictures and we are all still here looking for evidence? Pictures are apparently NOT going to cut it as proof of anything. So I guess we need a working craft and an alien to explain how it all works. Pictures are a waste of time as anyone can fake a UFO sighting on camera.

[robomont]

Sg.would you be interested in making a design of our latest idea?

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Sure

[ArMaP]

what is the benefit of making a bogus vid.there is none.

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That SecretScienceTV has a video that I think may be relevant for this thread, the one below.



Looking at several videos from those three (and I think there's at least one more) related channels makes me think of visual effects students.

[Flux]

The camera person movement doesn't seem natural in that video.

[deuem]

Upon zooming in with a blackout background, there are smaller pixels in a square around the 'craft' with larger pixels in the blackout background..hence an overlay...

Hi Sarge, Can you please explain what you mean by the Blackout back ground. I have no idea about that.  Are you looking at the 1080 version? And Yes this video could be fake, I have said that all along but when I run these video workups they tend to drop out real fast. The paris one hit the trash bucket after 10 slides.  This video fake or real is holding its own so far. There are many other things in the video that are very difficult to CGI. Almost impossible to do. The cloud swish is one. Dropping through the clouds is another.

So this video pushes us along a road of research and lets us open our minds to what is or could be real. Even if it is fake and we find that out 100% it has been a good test of what we do and later we can refine our research.  We all know there are black projects 50 years ahead of what they show us. Maybe this is one.

As far as the camera man, sereral things are possible. He is cool under pressure untill the WOW moment. He filmed some clouds with a script in hand or maybe the audio has been replaced. For myself I would be option 1. Some people would panic and run. Or maybe he was up against a window and could not pan to the right anymore and would have lost it frame right in another few moments. I don't know. I don't know what camera he had. What was he viewing through, eye piece or screen.

It was hand held and the craft bounces all over the place with the frame. I did stabalize it but cant post it. It is locked to the frame, where ever the frame goes. This is not easy to do without a fixed object to relate to. A motion path would need to look like a zig-zag.

Deuem

[deuem]

The camera person movement doesn't seem natural in that video.

So I ask back, what is natural for filming a UFO.  Old old is he, The camera is shaking all over the place. Stabalize it and see. The frames go down by over 1/3 the original size and are bouncing wildly. His hands were shaking. A machine shake is constand and repeats. I found no repeat.

If a camera is hand held by 100 people all the films will be different. Even your heart beat will bump the frames. That is why we use tripods when we can to fix it. When they use tripods on UFO films everyone cries foul because it is fixed. A no win world.

So Flux, Do you have anything in your bag of tricks that can help?

Deuem

[deuem]

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Ok, why don't you go that route and see if they sell it and along with the sale maybe you will get the rest of the goodies. If fake how it was done. if real the camera mans contact information. Let us know how much it costs. That will be fun......D

[deuem]

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YouTube channels xxxdonutzxxx, O7TV and SecretScienceTV also have that text.

That SecretScienceTV has a video that I think may be relevant for this thread, the one below.



Looking at several videos from those three (and I think there's at least one more) related channels makes me think of visual effects students.

When I do these they either go up a step or fall down the stairs. this one is falling down the Deuem stairs. In the 3 regular modes of Deuem I got nothing. Daytime, Mixed and Night time, so I had to go to Balloons to see what was going on. Balloons does every pixel. Nothing is left alone. I failed to find even one ring or any interference. This one is CGI in my book with out any question but you make up your own mind. Here are a few work ups, now don't let the cloud formation fields get you mixxed up.







The swoosh away. Ok this time they drew the swoosh in front of the craft.




Can you see where a few pixels were not fully blured away and stand out for me as dots. [in front of the craft] See, once they start to blur on white they lose where they are very quick. You cant see the dots in the photo But they are there......



Anyways I usualy dont print fakes, but I guess I have to for this case or thread. I like you to see what I see.  It would take them years of training to fix what they do so I guess I have time.

Again I write IMHO " This is my Deuem Book, it may be as right as it could be wrong" You should have your own book to judge with. It is the best I can do with what I have to work with. If Uncle China want to give me a few hundred million to work with I am sure we can get better at it.

There is a small chance Matrix and I might get together on his trip. He will be 4 hours away at the closest point. If he does come here I will process pictures with him and see what he says first hand.
I hope he wants to visit Avatar land and the floating mountains. And Deuem....

Your turn....

deuem

[zorgon]

Found this one... all I have so far on it is

"First Triangle craft spotted 1965"

[deuem]

Found this one... all I have so far on it is

"First Triangle craft spotted 1965"

Ok, Z Bait dangeling out there for the Ole Deuem fish to bite... Hum food!

When I see these photos the first thing I do is to look for any fields.  Now maybe that is a 60 watt light bulb hanging out of a model but I don't care about that yet. Is it dead or alive. 1 step up or down the research ladder.

This one goes one step up, it is not dead.What i see is different than what we see in the photo.  Here is the first hot off the presses sample.




So it is a keeper and the bait worked well this time Z. Now we have to figure out if it is real or a real model.  Let the games begin....

Your turn.....

Deuem