Startling Footage of a Triangle Craft over the Netherlands

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Haven't seen anything that makes it anything more than an ROV with CGI added. Just like the one over the mountain in the Balkans. Nice resume' build for a movie job. IMHO. My son works for TurboSquib and they make these all the time.

Rock

[thorfourwinds]

PV means Paulie Vision.

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[stealthyaroura]

Good Day, All!

Great thread, interesting Amsterdam vid. Astounding Deuem Processing. Here's some PV that reinforces the feeling that this isn't a CG addition.

The movement swishes do seem a bit showy, but one frame in the exit shows multiple shadows of the thing. Pretty hard to do as an addition.

Hope you're all well. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZbmJdBKGCQ

Paulie

WOW that is freaking epic!!! Haha I could not stop smiling LOL
What a trip! Really shows the depth of the craft.

And that tune ;-) love it. Huge fan of the paulie vision. Nice job

[deuem]

Haven't seen anything that makes it anything more than an ROV with CGI added. Just like the one over the mountain in the Balkans. Nice resume' build for a movie job. IMHO. My son works for TurboSquib and they make these all the time.

Rock

Ok, Can you ask him to make one and we will compare? Just need 30 seconds or so. they can leave out the screaming. Duplicate any part of this video. Someone needs actualy do what you said. This is the most common reply I see on UT but and the big BUTT, no one ever does it! They scream I can do that in 5 minutes. Ok, it took them that long to log in and write the comment, whats holding them up? Do it and let us compare a known to a guess. It would help us for sure. We have very few video standards to work off of that we actually know were faked. The rest are a guess and in the snake pit.

Deuem

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Ok I'll ask. I'm just amazed everyone is so easily impressed. Look back on the thread for my original reasons why I believe this is a fake job. Not going to repeat myself. Nighty night. Work in about 6 hrs.

[deuem]

Ok I'll ask. I'm just amazed everyone is so easily impressed. Look back on the thread for my original reasons why I believe this is a fake job. Not going to repeat myself. Nighty night. Work in about 6 hrs.

I had asked you about your original post and you never replied. There are 3 sections in the vid and the last one. The BIG PAN is not from the original it is a computer made pan. In the original the craft went out of sight and then the camera moved just a bit to the left. Since you never answered I don't know which section of the vid you are talking about. Did you ever watch the entire vid? I don't know yet. Maybe you just skipped to the end and made that call. People read your posts.

I for one am not easily impressed. We looked very deep into this video and come out with more qiestions than we went into with. On this vid, If we can prove it is fake, I will buy that. If we just say it is fake I won't buy that.  Saying and doing are 2 different things.  Doing something one is a researcher, Saying and agreeing is a sheep. This sheep "Ram of Aries" likes more proof.

thank you for the "I will ask". I will wait for the sample, Maybe we can all learn something from it one way or another. And most of all, ask him if he can hide the 3 corner engines so you can't see them in the sample.

Deuem

[Elvis Hendrix]

" Paulie Vision"  that's epic.

[stealthyaroura]

These craft have been seen by what 1000s of people but it's for to "out there" for it possibly be the real deal?

Give me a break. The chance of one getting filmed was bound to happen some time.

That's not to say it can't be faked but it seems like a hell of a lot of trouble has been gone through to get the shadows and the heat signatures from the engines/stablisher setup that only shows up under Deuem and a little in Paulie vision.

Let's see these CGI experts replicant it if it's so dam lame!

[ArMaP]

These craft have been seen by what 1000s of people but it's for to "out there" for it possibly be the real deal?

Give me a break. The chance of one getting filmed was bound to happen some time.

The chance of being fake is even bigger, as the fakers usually look for what is "in fashion" at the time, the "fashion" now is triangular UFOs.

That's not to say it can't be faked but it seems like a hell of a lot of trouble has been gone through to get the shadows and the heat signatures from the engines/stablisher setup that only shows up under Deuem and a little in Paulie vision.

Unless those aren't shadows or heat signatures.

[stealthyaroura]

Ya it's just so easy to brush it off as CGI, yes it might be CGI
And if it is whoever made it knows just what the researchers
would be looking for as evidence for it being legit.

So ether way it's actually impressive footage and were still no wiser about it.

Dam frustrating, but then that would be part of the point no?

[deuem]

Yes, there is a lot of truth in the UFO fashion show the CGI people are creating. What's hip today is old news in a week. They seem to come in waves. I like that word, waves. It has a nice ring with UFOs. For years I seem to be doing one type at a time.  Triangles so far are on the light side. Harder to make I guess. More detail needed than a ball.

Many websites classify them by design. I classify them by fields and shape also. It might be as simple as to which Alien race is on tour this month.  They might take turns. Go through a booking agency. Get in line to buy Earth space tickets. It could be all of the above.

This video is not a UFO that one would go and bet the house on at Vegas. It is one that has stepped over the 50/50 mark with enough information to work with and expand our groups skills. If a 100% real UFO ever does get filmed it should look something like this. So this vid is either a great fake, they got lucky [beginners luck] or it is real.
        It has    "The Right Stuff". 

If you are making fake CGI vids you should study every frame in this video and do it for yourself. This video even has a story line. If you look for it. How many fakers do that?  I could make a movie around the information presented in it, there is so much.

I can't do a lot of the video movie making I would like to but I did stabilize it in Adobe FX and it still looks good. Every thing in the frame stayed sound where as the outter frame was all over the place. The outter jump to box is over 50% of the original frame.  Very typical for a shaking hand video. So the motion around the UFO was rock solid. Most of the time you can see the ufo jump around within the stabilized version and that is a killer of CGI work.

Maybe now that Paulie is back with us he can run a stable version and then go back in and stabilize the stable cut. I ran mine 3 times to get rid of any computer shake.

Deuem

[ArMaP]

Ya it's just so easy to brush it off as CGI, yes it might be CGI

It's not just a question of "brush it off as CGI", it's a question of saying that, from what I see, it doesn't appear to be difficult to create with a computer and the right software.

And yes, anything can be CGI, but that's not the point.

And if it is whoever made it knows just what the researchers would be looking for as evidence for it being legit.

That's the easiest part, they just have to take a look at YouTube, get some links to sites, forums and blogs, and see what people use as evidence, so they can do it the way the researchers expect it to be.

So ether way it's actually impressive footage and were still no wiser about it.

Not that impressive.

Dam frustrating, but then that would be part of the point no?

I suppose that's part of the idea of hoaxing things like this.

[ArMaP]

If a 100% real UFO ever does get filmed it should look something like this.

Why do you say that? How can you (or anyone else) know it?

If you are making fake CGI vids you should study every frame in this video and do it for yourself. This video even has a story line. If you look for it. How many fakers do that?

Some do. Some of the people doing this type of thing are movie students, so they do things professionally, preparing things to make the end result as believable as possible.

I can't do a lot of the video movie making I would like to but I did stabilize it in Adobe FX and it still looks good.

I used to use VirtualDub to do that, but after the upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 it looks like something isn't working, that's why I didn't try to make a stabilised version.

[deuem]

Deuem:  If a 100% real UFO ever does get filmed it should look something like this.     ArMaP:  Why do you say that? How can you (or anyone else) know it?

Very easy. A real one would need to land. knock on your/my door and ask ArMaP/Deuem to film it and go for a ride. Eveything else is second or third party information.

A 100% real UFO would be just that. No questions asked, not even by you. It's real, there it is, go touch it, kick the tires and smell the paint. Watch it, film it, fly in it. No different than any of our jet airlines. That to me is 100%.

Does that match what you think 100% is? i would have to see it, feel it, ride it for myself to get to that 100% mark. Everything else could just be a story we are shown. Until my real UFO shows up I am stuck in the world of percentages and making the best of what I have to work with. If I have to answer only yes/no, this one gets a yes for now! But asking a black or white question on a gray area is not fair to anyone. Besides, maybe an Alien made the video, like a home movie for his kids. lol

Deuem

[stealthyaroura]

Maybe it's a hologram 

I think it's impressive. The Usual CGI efforts are so obvious, very inanimate overly complicated and dead looking! this has so many subtle touches.

maybe it's a hologram

ArMaP:maybe.