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Started by Amaterasu, November 04, 2013, 04:24:51 AM

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zorgon

Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on November 08, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
A lot of them have gone viral, even though many are fakes, which makes it harder to spot the real ones.

Sadly that is the case in just about every field these days... for every one true story, 99 are false.  :(

QuoteThe whole point of the I.G. is to evaluate and replicate all these devices, find the one that works best, and publish the plans, AFTER we put something on the market so we have some funding for the next stage.

Yup counting on you guys :P  They just upped my power bill to $400.00 a month average now  AARRGGGGG

QuoteEggzactly, but i have seen these magical electron flows give a 4.8:1 power difference, so effectively, i have witnessed true overunity. Of course the energy was not created, it came from somewhere, we're not quite sure where, but hey, if it works, it works ;)

That has been my take on Overunity... no 'something from nothing' which defies the laws and gets the skeptics hot under the collar... but from a yet to be identified source. Considering that there is plasma all over the Universe... and considering that you can collect mega volts by simply dragging a copper wire through the earth's magnetic field (FREE ENERGY :P) it is likely that there is a constant stream of energy that we can simply dip into.

We KNOW the copper wire drag works... but what about this?

A tether  flies in orbit at orbital speeds of 17,500 mph. (I don't know how that speed compares to the coil in a hydro electric generator)

The earth is a giant magnet flying through space. We know that electrons are out there. The earth is moving at about 2 MILLION miles per hour as we sit in our chairs.

Somehow I am thinking that the potential of this high speed movement of a magnet through an energy stream HAS to do something :D

QuoteMatrix, i understand your approach being 'why do we need all this energy' but it's part of the cure, like money is.
Z is right, you will need a lot of money to set up a money-free system.... ???

I agree with Matrix.  All my life I have sought after the esoteric knowledge. Jesus told us we could move a mountain with a mere thought. Religious idgits tell us he meant that figuratively (because their puny minds cannot accept the reality :P ) but no he meant it literally as we see in the story of the fig tree added later..."What? No figs? Then shrivel and DIE tree"  :P

Yoda told us the same thing... that by simply believing in the Force, we can move that spaceship

The SECRET, Law of Attraction, works the same way  THOUGHT BECOMES THINGS

THINK AND GROW RICH (that has been working for me on a starting level)

MIND OVER MATTER - used to be all sorts of experiments in telekenisis

Quantum physics says electrons behave differently when we focus on them.  Literally Mind over Matter

Quantum physics tells us that two particles apart by any amount of distance communicate INSTANTLY  (speed of thought is faster than light :P )

I think that we are looking at life completely WRONG... but we are stuck in that paradigm :P

Why can we not move mountains? Why is it all we can manage is small parlor tricks? Because we are still in Kindergarten level and have a LONG way to go before we can master the Force wisely

THIS is why secret societies were created. We were well on the way thousands of years ago and then religion stepped in and put us back into the Dark Ages. Not the belief, but the religion that is merely man's interpretation of what he cannot comprehend

All the great minds new the Secret and used it

"The earth is a cradle of the mind, but one cannot live in a cradle forever."

Konstantin E. Tsiolkovsky
Father of Russian Astronautics, 1896


QuoteSo is it with energy also, we need LOTS of it, in order to get out of this rut & get some real science done, where we will no longer be talking in terms of 'how much energy does this device use?'..it will simply draw what it needs from Nature to do it's job, however much that may be, LOL

So why has no one recreated T H Morray's little box? Why has no one been able to explain T H Morray's little box?  That little box could plug anything you had directly int the force :D



Now THAT is free energy  One of those in every home... problem solved

UNLESS...

Since we don't know WHERE the energy is coming from... what if we are taking it from somewhere it needs to be?

TESLA discovered wireless power... people thing that meant Free Energy... but in reality that was simply generating power at point A converting it to radio waves and re converting it to electricity at point B  The REASON he got into trouble with that was he still had to tap into Niagara falls generating plant to get the power to transmit. That was when Westinghouse said "Where can I put the meter?"  Since he was paying for the dam and generating plant that Tesla was LEACHING from :P  well you get the idea :D

Also consider this... if ALL the power we use today was being beamed through the air, imagine all the cancer we would cause by the increased transmission. That is a LOT of power to transmit to run modern society. I am sure considering how upset people are over current levels of microwaves, adding that much power in the airwaves WOULD literally fry brain cells ;)

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 08, 2013, 12:48:58 AM
1.  Free energy:  Black projects

Unproven yet and unaccessible IF it exists... so it is like giving a radiation detector to a caveman

Quote2.  Robotics:  Look around

Have been. Yes I said robots are-a-commin... but what I see is a HUGE force of military bots ready to force THEIR paradigm down your throat. They have a head start. THEY are using that tool against us. Can we snatch that tool from them before it's too late?

Quote3.  Interweb:  Look where You're looking.

80-90% of what is on the web is total cow puckies... and those listening to the crap have ZERO interest in hearing the truth because it goes against what they WANT to believe. When you try to correct it, you get called disinfo agent and get unfriended. A stupid post of FB or Twitter that is an outright lie can get thousands of likes and shares, while a bit of truth is lucky if 5 people share it

So as a tool...  I rate it somewhere near a dull knife. Can still cut but needs a lot of effort

4.  Personal recording ability:  look on Your mobile phone (if it's only a few years old)


The earliest known audio tape recorder was a non-magnetic, non-electric version invented by Alexander Graham Bell's Volta Laboratory and patented in 1886

On 13 August 1931, Duston filed USPTO Patent Application #556,743 for "Method Of And Apparatus For Electrically Recording And Reproducing Sound And Other Vibrations"

I had a portable tape recorder when I was a kid

::)

WarToad

Quote from: zorgon on November 08, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
They just upped my power bill to $400.00 a month average now  AARRGGGGG

Holy crap!  My power bill is $130/month.  And that's for 2 adults and 4 kids who are terrible at shutting off lights and TVs.  What kind of lava lamps you have plugged in down there at Casa de Zorgon?
Time is the fire in which we burn.

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 08, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Matrix, it may be that no One knows what "trying" actually means...  Do We hold Our breath?  Do We stand on Our heads?

How does One learn to "ask the right questions?"  How does this asking take place?  Seems to Me that the mess on this planet that We're in is because We did not know there were questions to be asked, let alone the "right" ones.

So now what?

When we were little babies, before we could Crawl, we had to learn about our immediate environment,
and the workings of our own body, to be able to Learn HOW Crawl...

Most forget this time of great anguish and frustration... One of the reasons for our crying when as a baby.

The next stage was to stand... But everyone forgets WHAT the complexities of the human primate
are in fact to achieve this, let alone the complexities of learning HOW to walk.

Few even recall those days, the reason being, we take walking for granted having learnt !

It was so difficult and frustrating.... we shut out, the thoughts from our memory, we simply don't
wish to remember such difficulties, let alone go there again.   :)



To discover the other End of your mind, is even more difficult but the same type of experiences are involved.
Rather than being of the physical world involves our Return to the Knowledge of LIFE !


This is why it can be found in some ancient writings "We must become as little Children or we cannot enter."

In other words we have to start at like a beginning again and learn as a little child exploring these things.

Normally a little child takes things at face value, without All the B.S.

As adults we have lost this skill, and need to return to the beginning again.

You can't ask anything IF you will NOT know yourselves 1st !

I an Still Learning and will probably never stop Learning even into Eternity.


You know that ancient Phrase "MAN Know thy Self !"


As you Know I am NOT a Religious person and I treat many of the ancient writings
as NOT being religious Writings but simply Inspired thoughts, from The LIFE.

From one such writing refers to statements made by a "builder/carpenter" who was a Nazarene.

Do NOT look upon these words as be being Religious, but rather consider the wisdom
contained in the Inspired words.

It's NOT from the Roman Collection of assorted writings called the bible today...

Usually when the name "Jesus" comes up, the human species goes all silly on it.

Understand It is NOT my intension to preach, or go all religious on you, but merely
to get you to consider these "words of Wisdom", recorded in the ancient writings. 


Quote3.  Jesus said,
"If those who lead you say to you,
See, The Kingdom is in the sky,
then the birds will precede you.

If they say to you, It is in the sea,
then the fish will precede you.

Rather, The Kingdom is inside you,
and it is outside

When you come to know yourselves,
then you will become known,

and you will realise that it is you
who are the sons of The Living Father.

If you will not know yourselves,
you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

4.  Jesus said,
"The man old in days will not hesitate
to ask a small child seven days old
about the place of Life
,
and he will live.

For many who are first will become last,

and they will become one and the same."

5.   Jesus said,
"Recognise what is in your Sight,
and that which is hidden from you
will become plain to you.

For there is nothing hidden
which will not become Manifest."


When we were little babies.... IF we did NOT Learn about our Body and Environment
we would never have mastered Walking....   :)



So this Phrase applies to this. (Walking)

QuoteIf you will not know yourselves,
you dwell in poverty
and it is you who are that poverty."

It also applies to discovering the other End of your Mind !



Now on discovery of your "Real Selves", then you can ask Questions regarding the Place of ALL Knowledge,
which is located at the other End of your "True Mind".... LIFE


So IF you do NOT know your "Real Self", (NOT referring to the flesh)
you can NOT ask anything and dwell in Poverty, and you are that Poverty !

But IF you come to know your "Real Selves", then you can NOW Ask ?


And if you know yourselves you will also know WHAT to ask !

Whatever you "ASK" will be granted but be careful WHAT you ASK as it will Certainly be given to you.

The Matrix Traveller

Energy is your/our Prison !

You can escape from this Prison.

There is another way involving TECHNOLOGY !

WarToad

I have my own free energy for the upcoming northern winter.  But it involves a chainsaw, splitting maul, and a fireplace.  After a few weeks of harvesting my free energy my arms tell me it wasn't exactly free.
Time is the fire in which we burn.

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: WarToad on November 08, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
I have my own free energy for the upcoming northern winter.  But it involves a chainsaw, splitting maul, and a fireplace.  After a few weeks of harvesting my free energy my arms tell me it wasn't exactly free.

LOL Nothing is free in this world !    There is always Cost !

WarToad

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 08, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
LOL Nothing is free in this world !    There is always Cost !

Bingo.  There is no such thing as free.  Everything is paid for by the sweat of our brow or the gold in our pocket.
Time is the fire in which we burn.

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: WarToad on November 08, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
Bingo.  There is no such thing as free.  Everything is paid for by the sweat of our brow or the gold in our pocket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
QuoteIn physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system
cannot change—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can be neither created nor destroyed,
but can change form, for instance chemical energy can be converted to kinetic energy in the explosion
of a stick of dynamite.

A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind
cannot exist. That is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount
of energy to its surroundings.



But we can access the "Libraries", which ALL comes from and with a little Programming,
can obtain all our needs...   :)

Soon on Earth (In the Earth Program) you will know HOW !

And this method is also through TECHNOLOGY !





Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on November 08, 2013, 07:54:01 PM
Unproven yet and unaccessible IF it exists... so it is like giving a radiation detector to a caveman

I say it exists. [shrug] And You (who question its existence) would have no clue whether it's "like giving a radiation detector to a caveman," considering that You don't even know of anything existing.

Maybe it is; maybe it isn't.

QuoteHave been. Yes I said robots are-a-commin... but what I see is a HUGE force of military bots ready to force THEIR paradigm down your throat. They have a head start. THEY are using that tool against us. Can we snatch that tool from them before it's too late?

Well, it's pretty clear that robots are NOT just for military application.  We have them too.  The question is more, "Can We pull the money rug out from under Them before They use THEIR robots on Us?"

Quote80-90% of what is on the web is total cow puckies... and those listening to the crap have ZERO interest in hearing the truth because it goes against what they WANT to believe. When you try to correct it, you get called disinfo agent and get unfriended. A stupid post of FB or Twitter that is an outright lie can get thousands of likes and shares, while a bit of truth is lucky if 5 people share it

Wholly irrelevant to setting up a central governing site for a solutocracy.

QuoteSo as a tool...  I rate it somewhere near a dull knife. Can still cut but needs a lot of effort

Not really for the purposes of a central governing site...

Quote4.  Personal recording ability:  look on Your mobile phone (if it's only a few years old)


The earliest known audio tape recorder was a non-magnetic, non-electric version invented by Alexander Graham Bell's Volta Laboratory and patented in 1886

On 13 August 1931, Duston filed USPTO Patent Application #556,743 for "Method Of And Apparatus For Electrically Recording And Reproducing Sound And Other Vibrations"

I had a portable tape recorder when I was a kid

::)

And that is relevant how?  I am speaking of VIDEO recording mostly, but audio can be of use (Nixon tapes, anyOne?).
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 08, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
When we were little babies, before we could Crawl, we had to learn about our immediate environment,
and the workings of our own body, to be able to Learn HOW Crawl...

Most forget this time of great anguish and frustration... One of the reasons for our crying when as a baby.

The next stage was to stand... But everyone forgets WHAT the complexities of the human primate
are in fact to achieve this, let alone the complexities of learning HOW to walk.

Few even recall those days, the reason being, we take walking for granted having learnt !

It was so difficult and frustrating.... we shut out, the thoughts from our memory, we simply don't
wish to remember such difficulties, let alone go there again.   :)



To discover the other End of your mind, is even more difficult but the same type of experiences are involved.
Rather than being of the physical world involves our Return to the Knowledge of LIFE !


This is why it can be found in some ancient writings "We must become as little Children or we cannot enter."

In other words we have to start at like a beginning again and learn as a little child exploring these things.

Normally a little child takes things at face value, without All the B.S.

As adults we have lost this skill, and need to return to the beginning again.

You can't ask anything IF you will NOT know yourselves 1st !

I an Still Learning and will probably never stop Learning even into Eternity.


You know that ancient Phrase "MAN Know thy Self !"


As you Know I am NOT a Religious person and I treat many of the ancient writings
as NOT being religious Writings but simply Inspired thoughts, from The LIFE.

From one such writing refers to statements made by a "builder/carpenter" who was a Nazarene.

Do NOT look upon these words as be being Religious, but rather consider the wisdom
contained in the Inspired words.

It's NOT from the Roman Collection of assorted writings called the bible today...

Usually when the name "Jesus" comes up, the human species goes all silly on it.

Understand It is NOT my intension to preach, or go all religious on you, but merely
to get you to consider these "words of Wisdom", recorded in the ancient writings. 



When we were little babies.... IF we did NOT Learn about our Body and Environment
we would never have mastered Walking....   :)



So this Phrase applies to this. (Walking)

It also applies to discovering the other End of your Mind !



Now on discovery of your "Real Selves", then you can ask Questions regarding the Place of ALL Knowledge,
which is located at the other End of your "True Mind".... LIFE


So IF you do NOT know your "Real Self", (NOT referring to the flesh)
you can NOT ask anything and dwell in Poverty, and you are that Poverty !

But IF you come to know your "Real Selves", then you can NOW Ask ?


And if you know yourselves you will also know WHAT to ask !

Whatever you "ASK" will be granted but be careful WHAT you ASK as it will Certainly be given to you.

What are the STEPS to "know Thyself?" Just saying first One must do that and then One can do another thing does not offer any practical application.  I mean, what if the instruction was to know quantum physics, without any description of what is entailed in that knowing?

You, just go out there and know it.  No, won't tell You to study math and learn about particles.  No, won't even tell You what "particle physics" means.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: WarToad on November 08, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
Bingo.  There is no such thing as free.  Everything is paid for by the sweat of our brow or the gold in our pocket.

Not in Vegas   :P  lots of free stuff here  ;D

The Matrix Traveller

QuoteWhat are the STEPS to "know Thyself?" Just saying first One must do that and then One can do another thing does not offer any practical application.  I mean, what if the instruction was to know quantum physics, without any description of what is entailed in that knowing?

Look it's so simple it is difficult for many to see....   :)

When one has lost something they look for it.

So then we should look for the other End of our "Real Selves". (Involves Sight)

Recognise what is in your Vision !

QuoteYou, just go out there and know it.  No, won't tell You to study math and learn about particles.  No, won't even tell You what "particle physics" means.

All Subjects of the Human Primate... Yes that's right Peanuts and Bananas....

So let's step back a moment, and look for our individual "Conscious Origin".

Where the End is, there the beginning is also.    :) 

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: zorgon on November 08, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
Not in Vegas   :P  lots of free stuff here  ;D

Maybe I should change my Flight plans, and go to Vegas instead....   :)

Amaterasu

Quote from: WarToad on November 08, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
Bingo.  There is no such thing as free.  Everything is paid for by the sweat of our brow or the gold in our pocket.

And that is because We are accounting for the sweat with gold.  Stop accounting for the sweat (Human energy) by adding free energy and robots.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."