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Started by Amaterasu, November 04, 2013, 04:24:51 AM

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Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 08, 2013, 09:30:02 PM
Look it's so simple it is difficult for many to see....   :)

When one has lost something they look for it.

So then we should look for the other End of our "Real Selves". (Involves Sight)

Recognise what is in your Vision !

Um...  How?

And are blind People SOL?

QuoteAll Subjects of the Human Primate... Yes that's right Peanuts and Bananas....

So let's step back a moment, and look for our individual "Conscious Origin".

Where the End is, there the beginning is also.    :)

Well, I can say for Myself personally that I have "journeyed within" and found "source" in becoming everything in infinite directions and dimensions with no dimension at all.  Both in and surrounding the "universe."

I'm pretty sure that might be what You describe.  I find I am doing Consciousness's ("God's") work, in striving to allow bliss for the greatest number.  For bliss (and NOT "work") is the goal.  Now maybe I am in a game that has that as an "end goal," I don't know.

Could not bring back "out here" all I knew "in there."
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

The Matrix Traveller

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 08, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
And that is because We are accounting for the sweat with gold.  Stop accounting for the sweat (Human energy) by adding free energy and robots.

When I was Manufacturing back in the 1990's everything was automated but this caused more unemployment !

Automation has been around for years. During the Process of us Manufacturing Computers
for the Automotive Industry there was very little manual work. Most of the manufacturing was Automated.

(Robotics)

It took only minutes to manufacture a Computer consisting of a duel processors. Motorola 68HC11 sing chip micros.





The Matrix Traveller

#152
QuoteUm...  How?

And are blind People SOL?

IF you know LIFE  You wouldn't be asking. The Eyes and Brain are only an interface in a 1st person game !

It is only the Mind (LIFE) which sees...   :)

QuoteWell, I can say for Myself personally that I have "journeyed within" and found "source" in becoming everything in infinite directions and dimensions with no dimension at all.  Both in and surrounding the "universe."

I'm pretty sure that might be what You describe.  I find I am doing Consciousness's ("God's") work, in striving to allow bliss for the greatest number.

The LIFE does NOT Need me or you or anyone else to do its work....   :)

If you believe LIFE does, then you are putting yourself above LIFE ?


QuoteFor bliss (and NOT "work") is the goal.  Now maybe I am in a game that has that as an "end goal," I don't know.

That is the reasoning of a "Primate" involving "Double Logic"...

Let's step back and view things through LIFE and not the Primate .

YES I experience a Primate too but the way is NOT through a "Primate", but through
the LIGHT or LIFE !

This is nether about "Bliss" or anything else of the Human Primate.

It is about LIFE !

You can demand all you like jump up and down or whatever but it won't change anything outside yourself.

Your experiences have already been "Written" for you by your "Outer" Self i.e The LIGHT.

But then you already know this, and have yet to learn these lessons...   :)

I myself had to learn too.... and still am....  :)


So Come on... return to the LIGHT the gift you were given. You know what I am talking about.

The LIGHT is doing everything for you !

It is NOT the other way around and you know this too.   :)

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 08, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
When I was Manufacturing back in the 1990's everything was automated but this caused more unemployment !

Expected in a scarcity paradigm.  In abundance, all it does is release People who hate, dislike, are bored with, Their jobs to do what They WANT to do.  There is no such thing as "unemployment."

QuoteAutomation has been around for years. During the Process of us Manufacturing Computers
for the Automotive Industry there was very little manual work. Most of the manufacturing was Automated.

(Robotics)

It took only minutes to manufacture a Computer consisting of a duel processors. Motorola 68HC11 sing chip micros.



There are things robots can do SO much better.  [smile]  Build THAT by hand in minutes, eh?  [smile]
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 08, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
IF you know LIFE  You wouldn't be asking. The Eyes and Brain are only an interface in a 1st person game !

It is only the Mind (LIFE) which sees...   :)

The LIFE does NOT Need me or you or anyone else to do its work....   :)

If you believe LIFE does, then you are putting yourself above LIFE ?

No.  It has never been about  Me but for the multitudes who starve and die.  Guess that's a monkey thing, giving a damn?

QuoteThat is the reasoning of a "Primate" involving "Double Logic"...

Let's step back and view things through LIFE and not the Primate .

YES I experience a Primate too but the way is NOT through a "Primate", but through
the LIGHT or LIFE !

This is nether about "Bliss" or anything else of the Human Primate.

It is about LIFE !

You can demand all you like jump up and down or whatever but it won't change anything outside yourself.

Your experiences have already been "Written" for you by your "Outer" Self i.e The LIGHT.

But then you already know this, and have yet to learn these lessons...   :)

I myself had to learn too.... and still am....  :)


So Come on... return to the LIGHT the gift you were given. You know what I am talking about.

The LIGHT is doing everything for you !

It is NOT the other way around and you know this too.   :)

Do I?  I made a very conscious choice to step up with the understanding and ideas I have been gifted with.  It would have been easier not to.

All I know is what little I took from My experience.  Whether there is validity or is monkey, I guess I am not equipped to see.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

The Matrix Traveller

#155
QuoteNo.  It has never been about  Me but for the multitudes who starve and die.  Guess that's a monkey thing, giving a damn?

I beg to disagree... It is very much about yourself.... As you are showing us, by trying to get others to follow your ideas.

Nothing wrong with that at all !


This is why I no longer try to convince anyone, of anything but purely write what I have found.

I leave it up to others... They can throw it in the trash can... or they might make use of it...   :)

I only write this because I Care !


You did NOT Create this Program, (World) but it was done for you by and for another.


If your Understanding was/is correct, WHY is your World the Way it is?

Don't try and give me that B.S. it was done only by Human Primates...   :(


It has NOT been Created by human Primates, but everything was Created by something else.


Perhaps All of us need to understand WHY ?


As I said it's NOT about the world... but it is about LIFE !


However I do understand where you are coming from, because Once I thought similar....

But since then I have learnt one thing, and that is I have much to learn, so I put my nonsense to one side,
and explored the reasons WHY the human species i.e. the meat suit I am experiencing
is the way it is.

Because all has been made by something else, other than the human primate, which has considerably more knowledge
and understanding than the human primate, WHY has it built in the Suffering and torment we experience?

There is a REASON or it would NOT be this way !

So we can find out WHY or we can Put our heads in the Ground like an  Ostrich ?



So I went further and was willing to be shown why by The LIGHT or LIFE ?

I soon found I had no knowledge or understanding whatsoever and I found myself in a position
where I would have to re-evaluate my human thinking. In other words put the things I believed to one side,
and approach LIFE and Learn about the WHY !   :)



It is NOT possible for any Human Primate to tell LIFE WHAT is and HOW it should be.

The Species is in total Ignorance, so this is WHY I say WE (includes me of course)
ALL need to start Learning !

We are ALL like little children throwing tantrums... thinking we know better than LIFE instead of taking notice of LIFE.

Perhaps IF we took Notice of LIFE, our experiences would change instead of making the same mistakes year after year.

So in saying this, it is up to us individually, which road we take.


Can I or You convince LIFE of anything or that we know better ?

NO !

Because WE (All of us including myself) are like babies full of Ignorance and nonsense,
and need to grow up and respect the LIFE 1st before the flesh.

I know I will probably be Flamed for what I have written, but I cannot turn away from the Truth !

TRUTH must come 1st, or you/we live in La La Land....   :(


The Matrix Traveller

#156
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 08, 2013, 11:53:59 PM
Expected in a scarcity paradigm.  In abundance, all it does is release People who hate, dislike, are bored with, Their jobs to do what They WANT to do.  There is no such thing as "unemployment."

There are things robots can do SO much better.  [smile]  Build THAT by hand in minutes, eh?  [smile]

NOT built by hands !  ::)

But through Robotics (Referring to the Computers)   ::)


The above is only a photo of the Single Chip Micro we used in our Computers.

burntheships

#157
I am just really curious if anyone else has taken
into thought the amount of hazardous waste that
might be generated by everyone having a handful
of robots...


Military Hazardous Waste Sickens Land and People


Quote

Worldwide, the military is the most secretive, shielded and privileged of polluters because the hallowed mantra, national security, trumps the public's right to know. Thus, most of the extant data on pollution from US-military-related sites is available solely because of citizen pressure on the Department of Defense (DoD), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Congress to inventory, assess, and divulge the extent of the

military's environmentally hazardous activities. Citizen awareness and demands for disclosure of military site pollution grew during the 1980's, in the heyday of the new hazardous waste laws, which set standards for storing, transporting, and disposal of solid and hazardous waste as defined in the statutes - namely, the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA 1976) and the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA), which initiated the Superfund program in 1980.

By the late 1980's, public data revealed that the Pentagon was generating a ton of toxic waste per minute, more toxic waste than the five largest US chemical companies combined, making it the largest polluter in the United States.  (This figure did not include the Department of Energy's nuclear weapons plants and the Pentagon's civilian contractors.) 

http://truth-out.org/news/item/2377:military-hazardous-waste-sickens-land-and-people

How could this possibly be good?
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 09, 2013, 01:27:00 AM
I beg to disagree... It is very much about yourself.... As you are showing us, by trying to get others to follow your ideas.

Nothing wrong with that at all !

That is not precisely correct.  All *I*'m trying to do is get People to CONSIDER My ideas.  That They are Mine is irrelevant, though, and over and over I have said if someOne wants to put THEIR name to the ideas, I don't care, as long as they are spread for consideration.

QuoteThis is why I no longer try to convince anyone, of anything but purely write what I have found.

I leave it up to others... They can throw it in the trash can... or they might make use of it...   :)

It's not that I am unconvinced, per se.  I just struggle with instructions like, "See," "understand," "return" - when I don't know what I'm looking for or where to see, to understand, or where to go to that is not wherever I AM.

QuoteI only write this because I Care !

I know.  [smile]

QuoteYou did NOT Create this Program, (World) but it was done for you by and for another.

If your Understanding was/is correct, WHY is your World the Way it is?

Don't try and give me that B.S. it was done only by Human Primates...   :(

It has NOT been Created by human Primates, but everything was Created by something else.

Not disputing that...  But I ponder being stuck in something not only created by else but FOR else.  What's the point of Me? 

QuotePerhaps All of us need to understand WHY ?

Would it make a difference if We did?  And that begs the question, Ok then, why?  I seemingly do not understand.

QuoteAs I said it's NOT about the world... but it is about LIFE !


However I do understand where you are coming from, because Once I thought similar....

But since then I have learnt one thing, and that is I have much to learn, so I put my nonsense to one side,
and explored the reasons WHY the human species i.e. the meat suit I am experiencing
is the way it is.

I have never assumed I had nothing left to learn...  And I have spent 50+ years trying to figure out why.

QuoteBecause all has been made by something else, other than the human primate, which has considerably more knowledge
and understanding than the human primate, WHY has it built in the Suffering and torment we experience?

There is a REASON or it would NOT be this way !

So we can find out WHY or we can Put our heads in the Ground like an  Ostrich ?



So I went further and was willing to be shown why by The LIGHT or LIFE ?

I soon found I had no knowledge or understanding whatsoever and I found myself in a position
where I would have to re-evaluate my human thinking. In other words put the things I believed to one side,
and approach LIFE and Learn about the WHY !   :)



It is NOT possible for any Human Primate to tell LIFE WHAT is and HOW it should be.

The Species is in total Ignorance, so this is WHY I say WE (includes me of course)
ALL need to start Learning !

We are ALL like little children throwing tantrums... thinking we know better than LIFE instead of taking notice of LIFE.

Perhaps IF we took Notice of LIFE, our experiences would change instead of making the same mistakes year after year.

So in saying this, it is up to us individually, which road we take.


Can I or You convince LIFE of anything or that we know better ?

NO !

Because WE (All of us including myself) are like babies full of Ignorance and nonsense,
and need to grow up and respect the LIFE 1st before the flesh.

I know I will probably be Flamed for what I have written, but I cannot turn away from the Truth !

TRUTH must come 1st, or you/we live in La La Land....   :(

No flame here, but merely frustration for feeling like a blind Human being coaxed with, "Look, it's right there!  Don't You see it?"
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 09, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
NOT built by hands !  ::)

My point, precisely.  As I said, there are things robots can do much better and faster.  And then I said, TRY to build one in minutes by hand, with the implication that such a feat is impossible.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

burntheships

Also, to consider all of the personal computers, recording
devices, robots etc....

What will happen to those who dont recycle?
Would they be jailed, flogged, punished?

QuoteBy 2010, computers and other e-waste accounted for 70% of heavy metals found in landfills in the U.S. A report by the EPA states that e-waste is one of the fastest growing types of waste in the U.S., and the EPA notes that many of those parts being discarded can be reused or recycled.

The e-waste in U.S. landfills contains precious metals, glass and plastics, all of which could be reused. Also buried there are pollutants such as lead, cadmium, arsenic, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) and mercury.
http://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Computer_Recycling_Statistics
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Amaterasu

Quote from: burntheships on November 09, 2013, 02:02:24 AM
I am just really curious if anyone else has taken
into thought the amount of hazardous waste that
might be generated by everyone having a handful
of robots...


Military Hazardous Waste Sickens Land and People


http://truth-out.org/news/item/2377:military-hazardous-waste-sickens-land-and-people

How could this possible be good?

I imagine it isn't.  I also imagine that, being more concerned about Human health and happiness that the psychopaths in the military industrial complex, We will find healthy solutions.  Just because We now create such nastiness does not mean it's the ONLY way to do things.

Also, everyOne seems to think robots will be part of everyOne's home.  Not necessarily so.  Only if One WANTS one.  Mostly the robots will be in vital services like food, textiles for clothing, house-building, water provision, and in manufacturing of things like building tools, gardening tools, art supplies, and other such tools as One might need.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Amaterasu

Quote from: burntheships on November 09, 2013, 02:22:12 AM
Also, to consider all of the personal computers, recording
devices, robots etc....

What will happen to those who dont recycle?
Would they be jailed, flogged, punished?
http://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Computer_Recycling_Statistics

First, We have such waste as We do thanks to planned obsolescence.  Things will last VASTLY longer.  (The amount of waste, in food and materials, will drop to virtually nil.)

Second, all "trash" can be sorted and no One has to "recycle" - at least initially.  I do foresee replicators and "anti-replicators" where the particles are disbursed back into the probabilistic soup of the aether.

"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

burntheships

Quote from: Amaterasu on November 09, 2013, 02:24:09 AM

Also, everyOne seems to think robots will be part of everyOne's home.  Not necessarily so.  Only if One WANTS one.  Mostly the robots will be in vital services like food, textiles for clothing, house-building, water provision, and in manufacturing of things like building tools, gardening tools, art supplies, and other such tools as One might need.

That would still represent a vast increase in industrial waste.

What if one wants several computers, yet does nothing to
recycle the waste? Who would oversee this regulation?
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

The Matrix Traveller

QuoteMy point, precisely.  As I said, there are things robots can do much better and faster.  And then I said, TRY to build one in minutes by hand, with the implication that such a feat is impossible.

My Bad.... I should have looked closer... I apologise...

Laying of Staff who are in need, is NOT easy.... One of my regrets...