The Plan

[The Matrix Traveller]

Thank you Angel my dear friend.

I hope to have a few photos (Many) to upload on Pegasus, to show what I have been up to in China.

Off now to get some sleep.

I see a "typhoon" is about to hit the South of China on Sunday, (where the same typhoon did a lot of damage
in the Philippines) the area I am going to 1st...

So hope it doesn't cause my flight to be cancelled or be reschedule.  [worried]

We fly between the Philippines and the east cost of China before landing at Guangzhou
so hope I don't get a rough flight.

Wings are for the birds....   

[The Matrix Traveller]

I look forward to seeing some pics matrix

I hope to get a few hundred especially in Lhasa.... and some other places around Xi'an (pyramids etc.)
and Beijing.

I also hope to show a lot of geometry displayed in ancient buildings etc.

[zorgon]

What if people just throw stuff into the rivers, and lakes?
Like they do now?

Say it ain't so 



And I don't give a rats ass about how poor they are... there is NO EXCUSE to toss your trash into your own drinking water

[robomont]

Somebody through away a perfectly good kid?

[zorgon]

What will happen to those who dont recycle?
Would they be jailed, flogged, punished?

FLOGGED... works for me


So under Abundance... can I please has 100 pounds of gold?  I need it

[Sinny]

FLOGGED... works for me


So under Abundance... can I please has 100 pounds of gold?  I need it

Only if you supply me with one bacon sandwich everyday for the next 3650 days... 

[Amaterasu]

How would this be tracked, and controlled?

It won't be - but if YOU know someOne is doing this, You can spread the word.  REPUTATION is One's "coin" in abundance.

No "tracking" at all except of products and requests so as to provide for supply and demand.

[Amaterasu]

As you know, my thinking is in an opposite direction to what is in "the plan", so just listen to what I say with a "grain of salt". There is something going on today, to the which I see similarities in thought, ideals, and political ideology.  And I will try to relate that here!

TAP & OBAMACARE~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!

Both of these are made up plans that are intended to directly interfere with peoples lives, on a presumed/stated basis that  "THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY". it is like "to hell with the torpedos, and full steam ahead". Of course, these two programs are at opposite ends of the spectrum, as TAP envisions "no government", and Obamacare is specifically intended for government to "take complete control" of the people (unstated but obvious intention).

And also:  Obamacare is designed to further crush the middle class.  It is motivated by money/power.  It FORCES People do do things.  In TAP, no One is FORCED to do anything, and can continue as now.  They may CHOOSE to make changes - from hauling Their tail ends out of jobs that They dislike, hate, or are bored with to doing what They LOVE to do.

I find it disturbing that You are comparing Ocare to TAP.  You CLEARLY do not understand TAP.

But the extreme difference noted aside, TAP and Obamacare are hand in hand relative to the long-term up-hill battle to be faced. I am not going into the politics of the good and bad for our country, but for sure there are specifics that will doom such actions - - primarily for America, if the people are not for it, and on board, 'IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN", at least not for long!! Obamacare has happened, but it is even now on its beginnings of life support", with resuscitation implemented, even though DNR (do not resuscitate) will be an eventual determination. One of the saddest things, just the program software & etc has already cost $100's of millions of dollars of increase to our debt, and they are pretty much starting over.

Oh, I agree that TAP will not happen unless We CHOOSE it.  My guess is that if statistically all of Us are aware of the freedom from totalitarianism (which Ocare is just one program to promote towards that goal), freedom from HAVING to do robotic work as a cog in the system, from the frustration of not having what it takes to pursue One's gifts, most will choose TAP.

And Obamacare doesn't hold a candle to the extreme interference to peoples lives TAP would involve. Sure, promises to any living animal can bring some positive results, especially free this and free that, and live like you want to. Dogs and cats like to be fed too! But, if the food doesn't come, they get upset pretty quick.

Just what "interference" do You see in:  "Sure, keep doing what You're doing if You love it.  If You WANT a change, here are options You never had before."

There is no way Obamacare will be a serious success, because there is nothing good about it- NONE in the end. The people are seeing that, and are beginning to rise up against it. The voting this time next year will show that directly.

Oh, any such devious move will be seen through eventually.

Obamacare should be some amount of learning experience for anyone seriously considering TAP, for anything other than a collective based work farm, or some such-like - - maybe on an island somewhere, where there is no government, no energy, and if people eat, they have to work for it. A system that is a "free lunch" for everybody won't work, because there will be no food to eat, until the people work to get it!

Huh?  I really did not grasp that at all.  Can You rephrase.  What has islands with no energy got to do with casting off all robotic work in favor of contributing in ways One LOVES to do?

That is more said than I intended - the thought is, to use Obamacare as learning relative to TAP!

That is like using slavery to learn how to dance.

[Amaterasu]

FLOGGED... works for me

Yes, violence solves everything.   

So under Abundance... can I please has 100 pounds of gold?  I need it

Conceivably.  It will merely be pretty and useful metal in abundance, and good probability You can get some from someOne.

[zorgon]

Conceivably.  It will merely be pretty and useful metal in abundance, and good probability You can get some from someOne.

Actually gold will be in rare supply... with all those robot armies using it iy will soon run out

As to all those sccap computers... send em to me  I will deal with them (and then I will have my GOLD hehehe)

[Amaterasu]

Actually gold will be in rare supply... with all those robot armies using it iy will soon run out

As to all those sccap computers... send em to me  I will deal with them (and then I will have my GOLD hehehe)

I'm betting We can work around that (recycling, as You say, using different materials, whatever) until We get transmutation up and running, or until We get replicators.  Either way, We will not be wanting for gold.

[Amaterasu]

Aliens are probably not on pause! Rather I think it strongly possible they may have just quit! Of course we all know they pick up on every piece of communication on this planet, and when they began to hear all of the communication about implementing Obamacare and TAP, they simply decided they wanted no part in it. And, of course that is what we should expect from a "more intelligent race" anyway!!! 

Geez, rdunk.  What is with You and TAP?  You favor the way things are set up now where the bulk of Humanity is:

1.  Starving, and/or
2.  Adding Human energy in robotic jobs They hate and/or
3.  Cannot follow Their heart in creating

?

And if Your heart is being followed now (few of Us), You can keep on keeping on.

Again, You CLEARLY do not grasp TAP.

[rdunk]

Geez, rdunk.  What is with You and TAP?  You favor the way things are set up now where the bulk of Humanity is:....................

Quite frankly Amaterasu, and should be no surprise, IMO TAP is a fairy tale pipe dream that is not workable, and will never happen on this Planet. The make-up of humans, along with whatever spiritual forces you may or may not think play a role, this dream world of TAP that has been conjured up with all of the what if's and's and but's, is a waste of yours and everybody's time. Here again (The Plan post), we have another umpteen pages of the same back and forth on TAP that we had on the each of ALL of the past similar posts.

I understand you have view about things, but I and for sure, and likely most people on this palnet, do not share your view, about how to "fix" whatever things need to be fixed.

I would suggest that if you are mindful about fixing the world, then you might should narrow your focus to TRYING to address and fix one little problem at a time, in your house or town first. When the problems are fixed there, then you could expand your focus to maybe county wide. You never know, doing so, you might actually make a positive contribution to your community.  The feeling of personal achievement can be found in actually helping people, more so, than talking about what people might, could've should've would've !!!

There are probably a lot of things you can do to help make things better for people around you! But just talking about helping people is not ever going to cause anything to change!

As I said, IMO!

[Amaterasu]

Geez, rdunk.  What is with You and TAP?  You favor the way things are set up now where the bulk of Humanity is:....................

Quite frankly Amaterasu, and should be no surprise, IMO TAP is a fairy tale pipe dream that is not workable, and will never happen on this Planet. The make-up of humans, along with whatever spiritual forces you may or may not think play a role, this dream world of TAP that has been conjured up with all of the what if's and's and but's, is a waste of yours and everybody's time. Here again (The Plan post), we have another umpteen pages of the same back and forth on TAP that we had on the each of ALL of the past similar posts.

I understand you have view about things, but I and for sure, and likely most people on this palnet, do not share your view, about how to "fix" whatever things need to be fixed.

I would suggest that if you are mindful about fixing the world, then you might should narrow your focus to TRYING to address and fix one little problem at a time, in your house or town first. When the problems are fixed there, then you could expand your focus to maybe county wide. You never know, doing so, you might actually make a positive contribution to your community.  The feeling of personal achievement can be found in actually helping people, more so, than talking about what people might, could've should've would've !!!

There are probably a lot of things you can do to help make things better for people around you! But just talking about helping people is not ever going to cause anything to change!

As I said, IMO!

There IS NO SOLUTION to poverty and war and oppression and profiteering that also contains money.  For a while, the issues might be pressed back, but they WILL encroach again - ALL money systems promote and give power to the psychopaths.

"Focusing on one problem" is the waste of energy.  It will not be solved in a money system, in a hierarchical system where the rich live richly and the vast majority are dying, living no life, forced into the robot jobs and non-productive trappings (banking, insurance, advertising, accounting, sales, cashiering, etc.) which are MOST of what Human energy is used for with the ONLY goal being the further enrichment of the already extremely wealthy.

So I will accept that You are incapable of grasping and will only ask that You quit making comments about which You have little understanding.

[rdunk]

So I will accept that You are incapable of grasping and will only ask that You quit making comments about which You have little understanding.

And I would suggest that you post your TAP stuff in your dedicated forum area, with people who possibly are with you on the TAP pipe dream! I, and likely others, certainly don't go THERE to comment!! I would assume that was the reason for your forum board, to give you a dedicated podium from which to "teach" your religion of TAP! If it is not already blocked, I would bet you could have your board "blocked" from the "recent posts", so no dissenters would even know about your board posts???


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