Yes, Mars Anomalies

[Amaterasu]

Ok, I agree with both of you an a lot of the things you posted.

Amy, that panarama is so huge, 360 degrees, ArMaP is right, How do we find it.It could be any rock in thousands.

Here is the jist of it.  When doing this type of research we have been lead down fake paths so many times it hurts. One needs to either get the best original or at least state you can't. I stay away from pans because of the stiching. If you can only work off the pan then please crop out a section that is large enough to find [matchup] then box the area in question like rdunk does and then do your work up.

Because others have posted photos from other sites we have no idea if we are all on the same page or it was manipulated before you got it. The carp just gets deeper that way.

If any of us use a source like NASA then we all like to validate it for ourselvess. If a friend points out a UFO in a NASA photo, I go and find it for myself and duplicate that effort.
 
ArMaP is 100% correct here. Me 3.  Garbage in garbare out.
 
Us Americans took over the English language and we all do what ever we want with it. [I hear our british friends booing] But it is strange for us, because we all know the meanings of the words we can play with them however we want to and we all get it. If you are not an American you will never get it. It is how our slang starts.

We use the root meaning for another reason. We all get it....If you listen to American Rap and so do I , we will hear two different songs. I will heard the meaning, you will hear the words. That's why our English is so hard to understand once we get off the book English.

And I don't think it is too bad I think it is a lucky thing. In Chinese you can't do what we do. The subject will change.
 
Start with the bigger photo crop down and then ask for help. Easy. The ArMaP blood hound will find it. He seems to be best at that.

Deuem

I guess My question is....  If You know where I got the image, what does it matter where in the original My finds are?  And to be frank, since I went over more than half that photo all close up, popping out and back in again makes it very difficult to keep My place.  And, popping out enough to show where in that huge thing I am looking would include a huge amount of area.

[deuem]

I guess My question is....  If You know where I got the image, what does it matter where in the original My finds are?  And to be frank, since I went over more than half that photo all close up, popping out and back in again makes it very difficult to keep My place.  And, popping out enough to show where in that huge thing I am looking would include a huge amount of area.

If you want any credability in this Mars world of research you need to take it up a knotch. People have been doing this for years and have followed to many roads off a cliff. Sorry Amy but just taking a rock out of thoudands and saying, look what I found no longer works with the Mars people. Drive it home....

You have to step up or get eaten alive all the time.
See in your case the source is not nasa and we really have no idea what that guy did to make his picture better. I am sure he must have touched it up in places or got the overlap a few pixels off. He did not do that work for us, he did it for the photo. The reasons are different. 100% different.

The better you prepare your case the better your work becomes. Way back when I did my Apollo 17 research I had to wait an hour for the real photos to DL but it was worth it.

This is like a ping file

"would include a huge amount of area."

This is like a jpg file

"wiuls imckludr q hyge am jnt od ar a." 

Every thing is just a little off, but if you stand back, you can read it because you fill in the blanks and correct the letters. The compression scrambles the pixels and we are after those pixels. That is why deuem does not like to run large photos on Mars. I have to get as clean as I can and even then it is almost worthless. Now 1 rock I might get a better picture on.

The best thing to say is that you did not take the picture and your working off of What?
Maybe you went outside and snapped a photo of a local rock and colored it in. That is what people will think when they are left empty handed. I don't even know what camera took that photo. It gets deep fast in the Mars pool. Sort of sink or swim deal.....

Deuem

[Amaterasu]

If you want any credability in this Mars world of research you need to take it up a knotch. People have been doing this for years and have followed to many roads off a cliff. Sorry Amy but just taking a rock out of thoudands and saying, look what I found no longer works with the Mars people. Drive it home....

You have to step up or get eaten alive all the time.
See in your case the source is not nasa and we really have no idea what that guy did to make his picture better. I am sure he must have touched it up in places or got the overlap a few pixels off. He did not do that work for us, he did it for the photo. The reasons are different. 100% different.

The better you prepare your case the better your work becomes. Way back when I did my Apollo 17 research I had to wait an hour for the real photos to DL but it was worth it.

This is like a ping file

"would include a huge amount of area."

This is like a jpg file

"wiuls imckludr q hyge am jnt od ar a." 

Every thing is just a little off, but if you stand back, you can read it because you fill in the blanks and correct the letters. The compression scrambles the pixels and we are after those pixels. That is why deuem does not like to run large photos on Mars. I have to get as clean as I can and even then it is almost worthless. Now 1 rock I might get a better picture on.

The best thing to say is that you did not take the picture and your working off of What?
Maybe you went outside and snapped a photo of a local rock and colored it in. That is what people will think when they are left empty handed. I don't even know what camera took that photo. It gets deep fast in the Mars pool. Sort of sink or swim deal.....

Deuem

Or...  I could not worry about it and have My fun finding and posting things.  [shrug]  I'm not doing this for work.

Also, I gave the link I worked off of.  Clearly it was not something I shot in My back yard.  If You need Me to prove exactly WHERE the images came from, I throw My hands up and Y'all can look for the anomalies without Me.

[deuem]

Or...  I could not worry about it and have My fun finding and posting things.  [shrug]  I'm not doing this for work.

Also, I gave the link I worked off of.  Clearly it was not something I shot in My back yard.  If You need Me to prove exactly WHERE the images came from, I throw My hands up and Y'all can look for the anomalies without Me.

Ok, I see your point, then why don' you just post it that way. Like I do for my flowers. Everyone knows that they are for fun. If you didn't worry about it, then you wouldn't come back out looking for ArMaP tail. You would say, Hey I just did this for the fun of it and don't bother looking into any details. I don't have them. 

So far I think every post on this thread has been positive towards edging you to be more of a real researcher. [if you want to be] and laying out the ground rules for the game. If it is for fun you can add some smiley faces to the rocks. When you state "it is what it is" then you stepped over the fun part and into the snake pit. In that pit you will get bitten if not careful.

Ok, what happens if you really do find an Earth shaking object , take a crop, and the next day the original is gone?  This happens all the time. Ask Z. I have done many NASA photos and posts that seem to go off line in a few days. If they come back, they are clean.

Deuem, confused on what you really want to do.........

[undo11]

i love this topic.  great pics and vids. 

[ArMaP]

Ummmm.  I said, "Take any photo of earth lands and find that many anomalous objects that One cannot attribute to Human inhabitance.  You won't find them.  Just sayin'."  What word(s) there was "changed?"

To me, "any photo of earth lands" means exactly that, it doesn't mean "appropriate".

[ArMaP]

Or...  I could not worry about it and have My fun finding and posting things.  [shrug]  I'm not doing this for work.

As far as I know nobody here is, but that doesn't mean we should do it without thinking about the best way of spreading all the information about the findings.

[ArMaP]

This is like a ping file

"would include a huge amount of area."

This is like a jpg file

"wiuls imckludr q hyge am jnt od ar a." 

That's one of the best explanations of the difference between those two formats I have ever read.

[ArMaP]

Ok, what happens if you really do find an Earth shaking object , take a crop, and the next day the original is gone?  This happens all the time. Ask Z. I have done many NASA photos and posts that seem to go off line in a few days. If they come back, they are clean.

I have seen that happen (although not with Earth shaking objects but with tampered images) at least three times.

[Amaterasu]

Ok, I see your point, then why don' you just post it that way. Like I do for my flowers. Everyone knows that they are for fun. If you didn't worry about it, then you wouldn't come back out looking for ArMaP tail. You would say, Hey I just did this for the fun of it and don't bother looking into any details. I don't have them. 

I find anomalies that in toto paint a clear picture; The point is what I found and not from where it was found beyond that it was found in images purported to be of the surface of Mars.

So if someOne comes along and says that My work shows nothing but rocks, all naturally formed, I will call it like I see it, having nothing to do with WHERE in the image what I found was.

So far I think every post on this thread has been positive towards edging you to be more of a real researcher. [if you want to be] and laying out the ground rules for the game. If it is for fun you can add some smiley faces to the rocks. When you state "it is what it is" then you stepped over the fun part and into the snake pit. In that pit you will get bitten if not careful.

I suppose...  But I say that any suggestion that what I found is irrelevant merely because I can't point to the larger image and say, "It's here," seems...disingenuous.

Ok, what happens if you really do find an Earth shaking object , take a crop, and the next day the original is gone?  This happens all the time. Ask Z. I have done many NASA photos and posts that seem to go off line in a few days. If they come back, they are clean.

Deuem, confused on what you really want to do.........

I have no control over NASA, but the fact that They continue to clean images of objects says a lot.  And whether or not They reissue images, pointing to WHERE will not solve that.  At best it can only be used to show evidence that the image was further tampered with.

And My aim is NOT to show tampering, but evidence of intelligent Beings on Mars before this generation of Humans arrived.

One thing I was struck by in going over that parorama was the fact that there are many "formations" in a roughly circular setup (The "car lot" was one of very many) and reminded Me of the many formations in south Africa being studied by Michael Tellinger (of the Ubuntu movement) that have very odd electromagnetic properties.

[Amaterasu]

To me, "any photo of earth lands" means exactly that, it doesn't mean "appropriate".

But it doesn't matter, ArMaP.  If You take a photo of NYC and remove all attributable to Humans...You may have little to nothing left to examine, but of what IS left, You won't find the numbers of "weird things that nature created but We don't know how."  And if You go to the desert and get a photo and remove all things You know Humans didn't create, You won't find that number of things suggesting an intelligent Being had a hand.

BTW, You think those white stripes are natural?  Really?

[ArMaP]

BTW, You think those white stripes are natural?  Really?

Yes, I do, I think they are parts of the rock(s) that are getting the sun at a different angle, so they appear brighter.

This is one of the things a better version like the ones on the Planetary Data System will probably show, as those photos are corrected according to the information from the cameras, to give the best image possible.

That's one of the reasons I am looking for the original photos ID's, to see if I can get better versions from the PDS.

PS: I find it interesting that someone that is always talking about wanting to help other people acts in such a selfish way in this case.

[ArMaP]

Deuem, I'm curious, does the Deuem process show any signs of tampering in this image?

[Amaterasu]

Yes, I do, I think they are parts of the rock(s) that are getting the sun at a different angle, so they appear brighter.

Hahaha!  That rock is in shadow, yet shows two very distinct lines both curved identically.  And the sun does NOT turn anything else in the pic WHITE.  And even supposing there was something casting shadows and light, IT would have to have two slits of identical dimension.  Which in itself bespeaks intelligent creation.

[ArMaP]

That rock is in shadow, yet shows two very distinct lines both curved identically.

The rock is not in shadow.

And the sun does NOT turn anything else in the pic WHITE.

Obviously. I suppose that's why you ignored the "getting the sun at a different angle" part.

And even supposing there was something casting shadows and light, IT would have to have two slits of identical dimension.

Why would be something casting shadows and light? Where did you get that idea?