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Started by Elvis Hendrix, November 26, 2013, 02:35:55 PM

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zorgon

Or how about the Erupting Oil Wells?





ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on November 29, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
Stop tilting at windmills :D
I have this problem, when people ask something, I answer. :)

There's only two ways of stopping me from answering: physically stop me or ask me not to answer their posts. While the first is hard to do (unless they are some kind of hackers or mods/admins), the second is easy, they just have to ask, although it makes things a little strange when they post things that need an answer that I can give (because I know it) but that I cannot give (because I promise not to answer their posts).

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on November 29, 2013, 10:36:04 PM
Question....

There are literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of great images available for the moon and Mars

Yet all that ever happens around here lately  is a rehash of the same old anomalies using other peoples piss poor images :P
Probably because it's easier, the work is already done for those, they just have to keep repeating what other people said years ago. :)

QuoteLike THIS one for example?


That's a good one, that has been discussed some times, with no real explanation for how something shaped like that would appear there. :)

PS: I see we are back on Mars.  ;)

Eighthman

I'm puzzled by the "oil wells" as to how an eruption can appear discretely on much of the photo without a big black mess surrounding it on the lighter ground cover.


Sgt.Rocknroll

Somehow no matter what the answer, there's always someone who thinks they are right and you are wrong. They go to great lengths to expound on they're knowledge and when you respectfully disagree, you're made to feel like your and idiot and must bow to their superior knowledge. So I choose to state my reasons and if you agree, fine. If you disagree, fine. Then if I choose not to hear from your silly azz, the better.

Peace 8)
Rock
Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

ArMaP

Quote from: Eighthman on November 30, 2013, 12:27:50 AM
I'm puzzled by the "oil wells" as to how an eruption can appear discretely on much of the photo without a big black mess surrounding it on the lighter ground cover.
That's one of the reasons I think those "oil wells" are not like oil wells.

deuem

I wish I knew what planet/moon we were on? The oil field photo to me are plumes. I did process it, the clear one in the center and it looks like it has heat. In that photo they all look like they are on a hill and the entire hill is saturated with another color.

The ground is leaking something. Maybe a gas of some nature. The Black portion is just going along for the ride and not the reason. If this was a geyser it could start and stop. Like Yellowstone.  So I will call this one the "Black geyser field'  Another few million years and maybe a volcano will show here.



The process reminds me of the candle I did.  Deuem

ArMaP

Quote from: deuem on November 30, 2013, 01:17:14 AM
The process reminds me of the candle I did. 
That's was the first thing that I thought when I saw your post. What image did you use?

deuem

I grabbed Zs photo, see red circle for the one I did...


Eighthman

Candle, my posterior, dude.  That blow-up takes me back to the '60's.  Psychedelic Ares, man.

So, we need the geysers to be something that evaporates or turns lighter rather forming a pool of dark oil around the eruption base.

I'm guessing the "Martian Spiders" are just more of these geysers?

deuem

Quote from: Eighthman on November 30, 2013, 02:40:01 AM
Candle, my posterior, dude.  That blow-up takes me back to the '60's.  Psychedelic Ares, man.

So, we need the geysers to be something that evaporates or turns lighter rather forming a pool of dark oil around the eruption base.

I'm guessing the "Martian Spiders" are just more of these geysers?

Guess you never saw the candle picture we're talking about. lol

I went looking for an example of a black geyser on Earth and found this one and only photo. Also in this photo there is little debre on the ground around it. I guess that washes away on Earth.  The only info I have on this photo is: 21_pejantan_black_geyser western end Madura Forest. Found it in an images search for Black Geysers. Which also brings up Zs oil fields.




It processes very similar, but is weighed down by gravity. It is also hot in temp. If you took away 90% of the atmosphere it would be 10 times higher and more plume at the top. The main thing I see is that there are no lines like a gush of oil or water would give me. Just Hot gas expanding rapidly. What ever gas it is is most likely bringing up some loose soil that is being evaporated for the most. Only the heavy elements are making it to the ground. That's in both photos, Earth and ??  You can see around the base of the Earth Geyser there is a very file perimeter circle of a different color. This would be the fall out pattern. On the Space photo there is also a fall out pattern which is very dark. No rain, no erosion of the particles. It just stays there.




By the way would some one please note where this is? Is it a Clentine Photo or did we go off track again?

Deuem

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

Looks to me like sulphur dioxide, which would be a hot, dark brown / yellow gas.
It would show ip much like these photo's, and certainly on the moon would be 5 or 6 times higher.

I think we are back on Mars at the moment ??? we seem to flit around a lot, metaphorically speaking ;)

Gas from volcanic activity, or smoke from underground kitchens?

Maybe they just chose a new Pope?
;)

zorgon

Quote from: Eighthman on November 30, 2013, 12:27:50 AM
I'm puzzled by the "oil wells" as to how an eruption can appear discretely on much of the photo without a big black mess surrounding it on the lighter ground cover.

Because they are not oil wells but black sand geysers :D  The CO2 ice warms from the bottom up so the gas pressure levitates the ice... then as holes melt in the ice the gas pressure blows these black sand geysers :D

According to NASA :P


zorgon

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 30, 2013, 12:31:05 AM
Somehow no matter what the answer, there's always someone who thinks they are right and you are wrong.

Well my point was to spend more time looking for good anomalies in pictures no one else has touched yet :D So far I have found three images that ArMaP is stumped on :D  2 on the moon this 'coin' on Mars

We have enough manpower and enough good eyes that we should be on the forefront of finding new ones rather than rehashing old Skipper ones :D

And yeah I slipped back to Mars for a second because I had those really cool images. :D  We can move them.

Sad thing is all the greats are slowly disappearing and I don't know if they just got bored looking or something else happened.. The only one that ever wrote and said goodbye was Russo and he didn't give a reason

I'll start looking again in a few weeks... finally getting caught up in the house and will start on rewamping the forum and website over the next few months... Have some ideas :D

deuem

I don't know Z, What made them so great in your book if they could never figure it out. What, they posted a lot of blured photos? My wife can do that. She is an expert at blured photos...Or the other greats that took an inch and made it their mile to grab onto the UFO money train when it was running.  Funny, I don't consider someone who stumbled on a blurred photo and then attacked NASA with out any proof that they faked it.

Show me the Money Old timers. Get out of retirement, toss the walkers and prove it with todays programs. A big blur is not proof. It is a big blur. Period. OK, NASA blured the photos. Now what! Did any of the greats change NASA or did they just hide more. This is why they all quit. They ran up against the blurred wall and fell down. If we can't get over it, under it or around it we will do the same.

We need new blood in the field, students of photos who can write programs to dicect things, give us a better picture and so on.

Deuem