Chang'e 3 - China Rover Separates From Lander, Now On Moon's Surface

[Elvis Hendrix]

Yea that rock on the left does look strange I agree. Also on the right it looks like a peeking head coming out the ground!.
Happy Xmas.

Hey stealthy mate no I don't make the gifs unfortunately.
I steal them all.. I normally do it in the dead of night when the sky is as black as Satans heart .
I wear my purple cape and mask fashioned in the finest Moroccan velvet when I'm out gif nicking.
I look windswept and ruthless and the chicks dig it

Yea baby.

[08rubicon]

 deuem;
    try www.planetary.org/blogs/emily_lakdawalla   then 'update chang'e 3      rubicon

[deuem]

deuem;
    try www.planetary.org/blogs/emily_lakdawalla   then 'update chang'e 3      rubicon

I tried, It is locked in a Blog and I can't get into any blogs even on the proxie. Sorry.  Deuem

[08rubicon]

  You might also try www.cntv.cn  though I can not find any real updates there..It seems that information on the chang'e 3 mission
is limited..a lot of simulation.
    rubicon

[rdunk]

According to this report, the Chang'e 3 Rover "goes to sleep" today, the 25th of December, for about two weeks because of the extreme cold.

http://www.ecns.cn/2013/12-25/94095.shtml

China's moon rover 'sleeps' through lunar night

2013-12-25 08:51XinhuaWeb Editor: Mo Hong'e

The moon rover and lander of China's Chang'e 3 lunar probe mission will "sleep" during the lunar night, enduring extreme low temperatures on the lunar surface. [Special coverage]

According to Wu Fenglei of the Beijing Aerospace Control Center, the lander will "go to sleep" at about 7 a.m. on Christmas Day and the moon rover, Jade Rabbit, will fall asleep at about 1 a.m. on Boxing Day.

The forthcoming lunar night, expected to begin on Dec. 26, will last for about two weeks, experts with the center estimated. During their "sleep", both lander and rover will have to tolerate minus 180 degrees Celsius. Scientists tested the lander early Tuesday to ensure it can stand the temperature drop.

Both lander and rover are stable, said Wu, adding they have completed a series of scientific tasks in the past two days.

Chang'e-3 soft-landed on the moon's Sinus Iridum, or the Bay of Rainbows, on Dec. 14, establishing China as the third country to carry out such a mission after the United Statesand Soviet Union.

Yutu, the rover, will survey the moon's geological structure and surface substances and look for natural resources for three months, while the lander will conduct in-situ exploration at the landing site for one year.

[Elvis Hendrix]

I'm watching all of this in every nook and cranny I can find and I'm just not buying it.



Of course I'm probably wrong.
But from where I'm standing its a bit on the stinky side.
Time and evidence will of course tell.
Elvis.

[ArMaP]

I'm watching all of this in every nook and cranny I can find and I'm just not buying it.

The problem is that everybody posts images from somewhere, without pointing to the source, and we are left trying to understand what those are supposed to be, like the image that was posted as a photo received by ESA that turned out to be some "artist concept" published one month before the landing.

Posting images as if this was a contest to see who posts more images or who posts some image first is not going to make it easier to understand.

For example, where did you find that image? What is the context? What do you know about it?
It looks like a model in some exhibit.

[stealthyaroura]

armap do you not read man!
Elvis found it in a nook and cranny!!
happy christmas

[deuem]

armap do you not read man!
Elvis found it in a nook and cranny!!
happy christmas

Gold shilling for you.

So Far I don't care where they have been found! Even from the source all the photos are vey shaky. No stars, square errased skies, no sunlight. The nooks have a lot of dust to sweep away if this little rabbit is going to be believed. Also no real site for photos, just dribbled out as they finish them. The rover / lander should have presented a few thousand photos by now. They say they are capable of 10 frames per second and so far we have only a few rough photos. And whats with the fish eye lens?
The rabbit on the moon is disapointing. If it really did land and is taking all sorts of photos, WHERE ARE THEY? Why hide them?

Ever since I started writing on this subject my internet connection is getting worse. They must be tracking me now. I wish they would spend as much time on the problem as on me. There is almost nothing on the news that I can pick up. Just a dribble here ad there. For something so important I would expect for them to use a CCTV channel 24 hours a day to brag. Yet nothing. No front page newspaper photos every day. Noting on the net to speak of. No radio live broadcasts. WHY? This is not an everyday event.  Where is the tickertate parade for the little guy? The big parties with fireworks. NOTHING! These guys party if they cut the head off a chicken.

For the biggest step in the history of the local space mission we get nothing!  oh well.  Here chicky, chicky.

[ArMaP]

So Far I don't care where they have been found!

But I do, specially when people post image from something else as they were photos from the rover or the lander.

Posting an image found in some site, on a page from one month before the landing is obviously not the same as posting a photo taken by the rover or the lander. Posting them as if they were (or without saying a thing about the image, which may be considered as implying that what is being posted is a real photo) only makes things worse.

It's becoming like those cases where people talk about NASA images that have obvious changes, but when we look for those photos we see that they are not from NASA sites but from private, non-official sites.

That only takes us farther away from the truth.

No stars, square errased skies, no sunlight.

That's no surprise if we are talking about some "artistic rendering" or something like that, that's why I would like to know where those images are coming from.

The rabbit on the moon is disapointing. If it really did land and is taking all sorts of photos, WHERE ARE THEY? Why hide them?

That's one problem that all space agencies have, the most open space agency is NASA, that publishes (apparently) all the photos they take as soon as they (apparently) can. No other space agency does that.

[08rubicon]

 armap;
   Did you try www.planetary.org   or planetarysociety.org  or www.cntv.cn  blog by emily lakdawalla ? did not post a picture, as I
can not, but thought you would like to look it up for yourself. cntv
is in chinese, but has an english site. How do we know if a site is
an official chang'e 3 site? Do we know if there is an official site or
even if there is a jade rabbit-chang'e 3 mission ? Do we know anything
for sure? This entire episode may be pure fiction..
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[ArMaP]

armap;
   Did you try www.planetary.org   or planetarysociety.org  or www.cntv.cn  blog by emily lakdawalla ?

If I tried those sites? What for?

[WarToad]

"You make your own reality."

"When you do not want to believe, you will never believe."

"Lied to once, you always fear truth."

"Disbelief is far easier than critical critique against what you desire."


You guys are far to fast to leap out into tin foil land when it's fa simpler.  If something funny is going on, you need to have the intellectual honesty to not jump at everything.  If you want the world to take you seriously, you need to discriminate.  One pixel is off and you're all "NASA tampering!"  A photo is a shade off and it's "PHOTOSHOP". 

If we want truth, we need to quit this BS floating rocks, lizard rocks, whatever crap. 

I know I'm the black sheep of Peggy because there's not enough tin in my diet, but if we, YOU, want honest truth, REAL HONEST TRUTH, we need to quit embracing anomalties immediately without honest discussion and setting ego aside so you can back down.  That's my problem with several posters here.  They plant a flag on first post and they WILL.  Not.  Move.  It's all ego.  Truth be damned.

We all know there is all kinds of lies, damned lies, and &^%$*'in damned lies in the world around us.  But assuming everything is a lie from the get go is a lie unto ourselves.

~Wartoad, soon to be banned, black sheep, esq.

[08rubicon]

  Hi wartoad;
    I do not know just who you are refering to..I asked a question hoping for more information.And, yes, I did expect a rant..Thank you
for complying.
   rubicon

[deuem]

When I wrote "I Don't  care where they came from" I was being sarcastic. I, like you am trying to get to the originals or as close as I can get. So far the artistic photos are better than the so called real ones. Where are the parties ArMaP. Heck they party for a month at New Years. This is the largest space thingy they have ever done and it is back page news. Huh?

They have been bragging all along that this is the peoples project and they would post everything. Huh? This rover is where? Maybe it will go to sleep now and stay that way just to save face. That way they can say they were there and it will drop off the news 100% in a week or so.

Remember we were promised all the moon photos! Where are they. We got a map. Where are the photos? Thousands of them. Where are the thousands of 10 per second lander/rover photos?

If one opens mouth, one should produce what one says. Otherwise they should have said it can only take 1 photo and stop. That would have been OK. It is the lack of photos I am worried about. Look at the Mars rovers. There are so many photos no one can view them all in one day. They are hurting their own credibility not us.

War Toad; I posted 2 processed photos from the best sources I could get and the photos are tampered with. No one even responded to them. There are eraser marks all over the lander and the rovers sky is like something out of the twilight zone. Hey I wanted them to turn out well to help back them up but no dice so far. No stars, no sunlight, spot lights, pasted parts, it is like a nightmare on elm street photo. Give me a real print and I'll give you a real process. I am waiting. maybe the cameras are screwed up and they are going crazy fixing them in PS so they look good. Maybe they are overlaying photos so we see details.

As of this moment I will wait for the final judgement but so far I have nothing good to work with. If this is all we will ever get, then the book needs to be closed.

You won't get banned for saying what you think. People only get banned for picking on other members one on one. So please keep going. We need all sides of the argument to stay in line.

a ps to this:  I would have loved to post a fantastic processed photo and talk all about the great things in it. Something is wrong in Ch1na Town.
Deuem