America under DNS servers attack

[Gigas]

Are you a zombie, because your circular thinking suggest you are

[ArMaP]

IS that something that all of us should do just on our normal computers to get around this DNS server thing..

Is there any other solutions from trying to check if I have a problem through that FBI site...

That specific problem was solved, so if you had that problem you wouldn't be able to access anything on the Internet, as your computer would be looking for a DNS server that no longer exists.

I did note on my other computer that I have had problems that AV & malware / spyware software does not seem to resolve and it does keep slowing down severe at times & may even appear to have a keylogger issue..

The problem with antivirus is that they either act on what they know (virus signatures), so they can only act after the virus has been analysed or they act in  "heuristic  system" , as they used to call when they started using them, that analyses the programs' actions to see if they act in the same way as virus, but most of the time that only makes things slower and may prevent good programs from working.

In the company where I work we have a program (made by us) that uses a fake EXE file as a licence file, and there was some antivirus that thought it was a virus, as it was an EXE file with content that wasn't expected.

PS: the best way of making your computer slower is to install two antivirus, as they will fight for resources to analyse your computer.

[ArMaP]

Are you a zombie, because your circular thinking suggest you are

What circular thinking, asking questions?

PS: maybe I have been playing Zombie Lane for too long.

[Gigas]

That's exactly how a zombie would respond, not to mention your loyalty to Tango Spookz shows ever so well.

Now, if you want to redeem that zombie label, take what I have given you and look to your sponsors for answers. Its all right there if you're willing to see it.

[ArMaP]

That's exactly how a zombie would respond

That's exactly how a troll would respond.

not to mention your loyalty to Tango Spookz shows ever so well.

Sorry for being loyal to a site I know for more than 10 years, but that's how I am.

Now, if you want to redeem that zombie label, take what I have given you and look to your sponsors for answers.

What sponsors? I don't understand a thing of what you're saying.

Why don't you give straight answers instead of dancing around the subject?

[Gigas]

Ya, your 100% zombie. Thanks for letting your guard down so we can all see you now.

[astr0144]

Thanks for confirming Gigas,


I do not fully understand what it is all about or some of the technical terms or instructions etc...with ref to DNS servers or DNS cache..changing  network DNS from google to my / our ISP server etc
or if this is just in relation to PRC..

I was Not sure if the other things mentioned like copying that flush.bat code may have applied to us all,  or not, such as if those of us just with normal computers, or just to do with Zorgon & his PRC forum..

FBI and NSA are whats slowing everyones computers now days. Nothing you can do about it, but, know it

Copy and paste the following code into notpad and name flush.bat


Code: [Select]
@echo off
color 0A
ipconfig /release

echo The IP address has been released. Waiting to renew

ipconfig /flushdns

echo The DNS cache has been flushed

arp -d

ipconfig /renew

echo The IP address has been renewed
pause


Double click it and it cleans the dns cache and resets the ipconfig.

Edit to ad:

This is for the local windows machine only and not the server.

AND!

Look at your computers hostfile. Some dirty Jinn aka NSA may have slipped a 127 loop in there.

I have had problems with some sites all day, getting a page saying that it was possible to get a DNS response (or something like that).
I changed my network DNS server from Google to my ISP's server (I changed some time ago when I was having problems with my ISP's DNS server) and the problems stopped.

[astr0144]

I appreciate your reply & explanation ArtMap,

Its good to know it is not presently a concern from what I think I understand in your reply..

When you say that Specific problem was solved...Does that mean since the recent issue we just had, not being able to access PRC, or do you mean back in 2013 with ref to the FBI ?

That specific problem was solved, so if you had that problem you wouldn't be able to access anything on the Internet, as your computer would be looking for a DNS server that no longer exists.

This does help me try to understand what goes on with / or when AV try's to or doe detect a virus...

The problem with antivirus is that they either act on what they know (virus signatures), so they can only act after the virus has been analysed or they act in  "heuristic  system" , as they used to call when they started using them, that analyses the programs' actions to see if they act in the same way as virus, but most of the time that only makes things slower and may prevent good programs from working.

Yes I can imagine that having two AVs or more could create a lot of complication and slow things down more..

One issue that I have is that I think Windows includes free McAfee AV in its program... BUT it is NOT the complete version.. It just claims to detect problems not resolve them unless you pay to upgrade to the full system..

So I downloaded a Free antivirus program that also removes viruses called Avira....so Now I am not sure if this may be creating a problem in slowing the machine down.

Maybe I can remove the McAfee one if it will allow me..if that may be creating issues..

Otherwise do you have any other Free versions of AV, Spyware / malware removal programs or Firewalls that you would recommend ?

If you can....Many Thanks in advance..

PS: the best way of making your computer slower is to install two antivirus, as they will fight for resources to analyse your computer

[ArMaP]

I appreciate your reply & explanation ArtMap,

It's ArMaP, I'm far from Artistic.

When you say that Specific problem was solved...Does that mean since the recent issue we just had, not being able to access PRC, or do you mean back in 2013 with ref to the FBI ?

The problem talked about in that FBI page.

One issue that I have is that I think Windows includes free McAfee AV in its program... BUT it is NOT the complete version.. It just claims to detect problems not resolve them unless you pay to upgrade to the full system..

It's not Microsoft that does that, it's the computer makers. Acer is one of the makers that sells their computers with a preloaded version of McAffee (I think) that it's very hard to completely remove.

Maybe I can remove the McAfee one if it will allow me..if that may be creating issues..

Even if you can't remove it I think you can stop it, it should be enough.

Otherwise do you have any other Free versions of AV, Spyware / malware removal programs or Firewalls that you would recommend ?

The Windows firewall in Windows Vista or latter is good, but you can always use something like ZoneAlarm. As an antivirus I have used AVG (I stopped using it when I saw references to tests in which it had ignored several known Trojans) and Avira (I stopped using it because it slowed down my computer too much). I have never personally used avast! (yes, with a "!" in the end), but it's another popular free antivirus. I have been using Microsoft's Security Essentials as antivirus, as it's the one that affects less the performance of my computer.

PS: as for what happened last weekend with Pegasus and apparently many other sites, if it was really an attack on DNS servers, clearing the DNS cache forces the computer to ask the server for all IP addresses again, so any relation between a name and a bad IP address is removed. The cache is used because DNS queries are slow, as you computer first looks at the "hosts" file to see if you have the name you're looking for (for example, www.thelivingmoon.com) linked to any IP address, and if it doesn't find it it asks the DNS server for it. If the server doesn't have that name on the cache it has to do the same thing with the DNS server it uses, and, in the worst case, they will all ask until they reach the server that is responsible for the thelivingmoon.com domain. That server answers that the name corresponds to some IP address, and all the servers respond to the computer that made the query until the answer reaches your computer and it finally knows the IP address to where it should send the requests. As you can imagine, if there are many queries between servers things get slow, so, when your computer gets the answer it stores it in the cache, so next time it doesn't ask anyone for it. That works because IP addresses of the servers usually don't change.

[ArMaP]

Ya, your 100% zombie. Thanks for letting your guard down so we can all see you now.

I don't understand that either...

[astr0144]

Appologies for my slip of my keyboard  ....must have accidently hit the letter "T" 

However Maybe it depends how one defines artistic !...Maybe Not always just in the visual form...

I can see in your Name Capitals A. M . P but not sure what ArMaP may refer to specifically if anything at all...I do not think it is your real name for eg...

It's ArMaP, I'm far from Artistic.

I was wrong about McAfee in ref to Windows..IF I recall now, I think it appeared on my desktop after I downloaded an adobe reader program.

It's not Microsoft that does that, it's the computer makers. Acer is one of the makers that sells their computers with a preloaded version of McAffee (I think) that it's very hard to completely remove.

Thks for the info on AV programs....You may have explained why my Computer runs slower if Avira causes it !

As an antivirus I have used AVG (I stopped using it when I saw references to tests in which it had ignored several known Trojans)
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and Avira (I stopped using it because it slowed down my computer too much)

I have used MSE in the past.. what I like about it is that you can just select certain files to check with the  AV instead of going through a complete process....I would often find Viruses in specific folders or files.
System 32 if I recall being one main one...

I may change back to MSEs instead of staying with Avira !..

I have been using Microsoft's Security Essentials as antivirus, as it's the one that affects less the performance of my computer.

Quite an explanation....Need to try and digest what you describe.

I am not really sure about if I  can clear DNS Cache as such on my computer or if this is something you delete from a website.
As I thought DNS applies to websites not computers..ie with it being ref to domain.. like a domain name of a website...not something to do with my ISP on my own computer..

I can remove something called a cache in Temp Int Files .. I am using windows XP.... under tools, clearing browsing data, empty the cache.
NOT sure if this is DNS cache or if I need to follow a different process.

PS: as for what happened last weekend with Pegasus and apparently many other sites, if it was really an attack on DNS servers, clearing the DNS cache forces the computer to ask the server for all IP addresses again, so any relation between a name and a bad IP address is removed.

thank you...

[ArMaP]

I can see in your Name Capitals A. M . P but not sure what ArMaP may refer to specifically if anything at all...I do not think it is your real name for eg...

Those capital letters are some of the initials of my real name.

[astr0144]

Argh ! so it does relate to your name...I had thought it may have been letters that was ref to something else..

I accidently posted the last reply too early before I finished what I meant to say in more detail....

So I have now amended it with a few more comments.

Those capital letters are some of the initials of my real name.

[ArMaP]

I am not really sure about if I  can clear DNS Cache as such on my computer or if this is something you delete from a website.

You can clear the DNS cache by executing the "ipconfig /flushdns" like Gigas posted.

As I thought DNS applies to websites not computers..ie with it being ref to domain.. like a domain name of a website...not something to do with my ISP on my own computer..

The domain names are used by websites, but the underlying communication between computers does not, as it uses the IP addresses. When we ask our browsers to show us the page at www.thelivingmoon.com, the first thing it does is to try to find to what IP address that name points to, as it needs that information to communicate with the server.

It's like knowing the name of someone and needing the home address or phone number to communicate with that person, you need their address to send them a letter or their phone number to phone them.

In the case of computers, your browser knows only what you asked for (www.thelivingmoon.com), so it looks in it's "head" (the cache) to see if it "remembers" the phone number. If it doesn't then it looks at it's "personal phone book" (the hosts file, a file with a list of domain names and corresponding IP addresses). If it doesn't find it then it "phones" the "telephone company" (the DNS server registered in your computer's network configuration) to "ask for the phone number" of the person with that name.

So, although the domains are the names used by the servers, all computers need to used them if they only have the domain name and not the IP address.

I can remove something called a cache in Temp Int Files .. I am using windows XP.... under tools, clearing browsing data, empty the cache.
NOT sure if this is DNS cache or if I need to follow a different process.

It's the same idea but a different process, as that list of domain names and corresponding IP addresses can be used by any program that uses an IP network, so a home or office network without Internet access still needs one of those lists.

That list is the DNS cache, and you can empty it by using the command Gigas posted "ipconfig /flushdns". The other commands are for different, complementary things, to make sure the network configuration is cleared from old information that may be wrong.

I hope that helps.

[astr0144]

ArMaP, Thanks again for such detailed information.

Still will need to try and absorb some of it.

I  noted the Instructions Gigas Posted.. BUT I am not sure How I actually go about it...

Do I find something within my browser like when I look to clear Temp Int Files on IE.... I go into Tools, Internet Options... Delete Browsing history..

With Google Chrome when clearing temp Int Files, it was Tools, Clear Browsing data..

BUT with DNS Cache and "ipconfig /flushdns"  I am not sure what I do 

Or do I go into Start , Run and enter "ipconfig /flushdns" or gigas's code ?

I did a quick search on google and I can see it seems to refer to different browsers, Chrome, Firefox, IE as well as what Windows Operating program one uses ie Windows XP in my case..

Does each browser need to be taken into account... or is there just one way to do all in one go ?

I could see a few different suggestions..not all make sense to me as they refer to some other lingo I am not Familiar with.

So I don't think its that straight forward unless one is familar with doing it before..


Just found this as I write... it seems to re to different Op systems..

http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/ClearingBrowserCache#Windows XP, 2000, or Vista

1.Click the Start button.
2.On the Start menu, click Run....
?If you do not see the Run command in Vista, enter run in the Search bar.
3.Type the following command in the Run text box: ipconfig /flushdns

BUT It only refers to the "ipconfig /flushdns"    not the full code Gigas Posted...

I note in your last post that you say the Code may ref to some other things..

When I just tried to enter  ipconfig /flushdns  ..... a box flashed up for a second as if to allow me to enter gigas's code... but the box disappeared... so I am not really sure what to do..or if I should be able to see something..or  maybe it just did some clearing.. without the need to enter the full gigas code....

This shows to go into Start - All Programs - Accesories - Command Prompt..  then enter  ipconfig /flushdns

that gave a message saying / ref to   DNS  cache Flushed !   Hopefully this is it !


https://www.whatsmydns.net/flush-dns.html#windows-98-nt-2000-xp

You can clear the DNS cache by executing the "ipconfig /flushdns" like Gigas posted.