Holographic Planes & Blue Beam

[SkiesSeven]

How does aluminum cut through steel? And we are talking about 200,000 tons of steel per building, plus concrete.

The videos show the planes passing through the towers at the same speed they are travelling in the air.

The planes could not have caused the twin towers to disintegrate into millions of cubic meters of fine dust.

It's about as plausible as Mohammed Atta's high tech passport.

[ArMaP]

How does aluminum cut through steel?

With high speed, things shot at high speed can cut a wood board.

And we are talking about 200,000 tons of steel per building, plus concrete.

The aeroplanes are supposed to have cut only part of the steel structure at the floors they hit, not the whole building.

The videos show the planes passing through the towers at the same speed they are travelling in the air.

No, the videos show the aeroplanes entering the buildings at what looks the same speed they were travelling, and (I think in the video of the second aeroplane) part of the plane exiting on the other side.

The planes could not have caused the twin towers to disintegrate into millions of cubic meters of fine dust.

Nobody in their right mind says they did, if they had then the buildings would disintegrate on impact, not some time after.

It's about as plausible as Mohammed Atta's high tech passport.

It's plausible to me, but I don't know if that's exactly what happened.

[SkiesSeven]

ArMaP, you know darn well we're not talking about Wood.

I know the OCT goes that the jet fuel went down the elevator shafts. But that is ridiculous. Even more so when you factor WTC7.

It's a good thing you mentioned the other plane exiting on the other side, because even the debunkers will try to say it was not even the airplane exiting the other side.

And yes, the videos DO show the planes traveling at the same speed when they penetrate the buildings. They don't merely "appear to be". That is precisely what we see. Unless in a twist of irony, you're saying the videos are an optical illusion?

The recovered passport was laughable.

Frankly, there was more than enough evidence to charge the Israeli spies if it weren't for Chertoff's obstruction. They had the means, the motive, the cash, the explosives, the fronts like Urban Moving Systems, their phony art student ring, and spies dancing in the streets of New York posing as Palestinians while recording it. Oh yeah, and "box cutters".

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, you know darn well we're not talking about Wood.

I thought any intelligent person would understand what I meant. 

I know the OCT goes that the jet fuel went down the elevator shafts. But that is ridiculous. Even more so when you factor WTC7.

What does OCT mean?

And yes, the videos DO show the planes traveling at the same speed when they penetrate the buildings. They don't merely "appear to be". That is precisely what we see.

I didn't measure the speed, so I said that they "appear to be" travelling at the same speed.

Unless in a twist of irony, you're saying the videos are an optical illusion?

No, I'm saying that our vision is not good enough to notice a difference in the speed of the aeroplanes after they hit the buildings.

PS: I don't think things happened exactly as the official version states, but that doesn't mean that I have to accept everything that is said about it.

[SkiesSeven]

Bottom line... 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/20/911-planesno-planes-and-video-fakery/

[Sinny]

Note to self:

[zorgon]

Okay I am going to ask TWO QUESTIONS

I like you ArMap :p But I want YOU to think about this and answer my question

How does aluminum cut through steel? And we are talking about 200,000 tons of steel per building, plus concrete. The videos show the planes passing through the towers at the same speed they are travelling in the air.

There were no planes... no plane cut through the building... no plane came out the far side. The PROOF is in the official photos if people would stop IGNORING THEM

With high speed, things shot at high speed can cut a wood board.

A Volkswagon Beetle travellig at 8o km/hr veers off a road and hits a dump truck doing 50Km/hr... what happens?  The VW bounced like a billiard ball and the passengers lived  THIS IS REALITY

No, the videos show the aeroplanes entering the buildings at what looks the same speed they were travelling, and (I think in the video of the second aeroplane) part of the plane exiting on the other side.

NO PLANE went through the building The video is a fake  See PROOF below

Nobody in their right mind says they did, if they had then the buildings would disintegrate on impact, not some time after.

A bomber hit the Empire state building  It did not collapse... The Towers were designed to withstand SEVERAL airplane hits  up to SEVEN according to engineers...  NO PLANE hit building 7 and there were only two floors on fire...

It's plausible to me, but I don't know if that's exactly what happened.

You also know nothing about structural engineering

The aeroplanes are supposed to have cut only part of the steel structure at the floors they hit, not the whole building.

Okay THIS point SUPPOSED TO HAVE  Here is where the second 'plane' 'entered' the building

Question One:  SHOW ME WHERE THE PLANE WENT THROUGH THE BUILDING There are hundreds of photos of this hole from many angles You can see the core  WHERE did the plane go? WERE is ANY sign of ANY plane debris?



Question Two:  HOW IS IT POSSIBLE for Edna Crinton to be standing there waving for help MINUTES after the huge fireball made the steel hot enough to melt and fall down? There are many shots of her and many helicopter videos. She did not make it out (RIP Edna) but there are also other people visible in some of the images, in fact lower image far left one floor up is another person. The fires are almost out at this point too

So explain to me how any plane did this?

Thanks in advance


ETA

NO PLANE

Not one piece of airplane, not one piece of exploded luggage not one dead body NOTHING  (only one miracle passport )

Anyone who considers the official story 'plausible' has been programmed successfully

LOOK behind Edna  CORE is intact  no hole to the other side

[zorgon]

I thought any intelligent person would understand what I meant. 

There is a video on YT that shows what happens when an aluminum can is shot at a denser target  I will find it later

The problem is that we have a huge airliners that supposedly hit a building yet NOT ONE PIECE of personal luggage, cloathing, paper is seen anywhere on the photos before the building went down  Same at the pentagon, same at Shanksville

At NO TIME in the history of aircraft crashes has this ever happened  that planes VANISH without a trace

Oddly enough each of the three sites they recovered ONE ENGINE  and those engines were NOT the correct one  Imagine that

And NO ONE has yet explained THIS.  Jet fuel burned up in the first 10 seconds in a fireball.. office furniture and interior burnables can not heat steel to this degree TRY IT I have forged swords... you need coal and a blower and even then the steel cools as soon as you remove it in minutes?

So explain how this stayed red hot actually orange hot for 6 weeks?

[zorgon]

THIS is a typical plane crash hitting the ground



THIS is the plane crash in Shanksville



Still "Plausible"? 

[zorgon]

This image shows the pit was already there in 1994  They just added a crater in the center



Here is the recover operation just after the crash



Someone also started circulating THIS image as being from Shanksville   Its all over the blogs  Took me a while to find the source  The Trees look like Shanksville




At least THAT one was a real plane crash with debris

http://www.solidaritywithpoland.info/photos.html

[thorfourwinds]

The Holographic Projector

US Military: Weaponization of Space

[ArMaP]

A Volkswagon Beetle travellig at 8o km/hr veers off a road and hits a dump truck doing 50Km/hr... what happens?  The VW bounced like a billiard ball and the passengers lived  THIS IS REALITY

It's true that I don't know a thing about structural engineering, but I do know that a car can hit a dump truck in many different ways, and different ways of hitting have different results.

A bomber hit the Empire state building  It did not collapse...

Again, different situations have different results.

The Towers were designed to withstand SEVERAL airplane hits  up to SEVEN according to engineers...

What engineers, the ones creating the Twin Towers or other engineers?

NO PLANE hit building 7 and there were only two floors on fire...

It doesn't matter, I was not talking about building 7.

Question One:  SHOW ME WHERE THE PLANE WENT THROUGH THE BUILDING There are hundreds of photos of this hole from many angles

The hole is where the plane entered the building, the hole didn't exist before, right?

You can see the core

Maybe I can, but I don't recognised it as such, as I know nothing about structural engineering.

WHERE did the plane go? WERE is ANY sign of ANY plane debris?

On those photos I wouldn't expect to see any plane debris, as the speed of the plane would make the debris either being thrown back and fall to the ground or enter the building, and those that would enter the building would likely keep on moving for at least some metres, so they wouldn't be visible close to the side from where they entered.

Question Two:  HOW IS IT POSSIBLE for Edna Crinton to be standing there waving for help MINUTES after the huge fireball made the steel hot enough to melt and fall down?

It's not possible, obviously, if the steel had melt and fallen down the building wouldn't be standing with her on it, right?

Anyone who considers the official story 'plausible' has been programmed successfully

That depends on what you call "official story", if you are talking about planes hitting the towers, partially destroying the fire protection of the buildings and the towers collapsing after the fires had weakened the towers' structures, yes, I do think that's plausible. If by "official story" you mean the whole story then no, I don't think the whole story is plausible.

LOOK behind Edna  CORE is intact  no hole to the other side

Are you sure that's the core? It looks to close to the exterior wall for it to be the core, but I know nothing about structural engineering.

[ArMaP]

There is a video on YT that shows what happens when an aluminum can is shot at a denser target  I will find it later

Were the towers denser than planes?
I know nothing about structural engineering, but I do know that aluminium can doesn't have the same structural strength of a plane.

The problem is that we have a huge airliners that supposedly hit a building yet NOT ONE PIECE of personal luggage, cloathing, paper is seen anywhere on the photos before the building went down  Same at the pentagon, same at Shanksville

That may be true, this is not a subject that interests me enough for me to look for those photos.

At NO TIME in the history of aircraft crashes has this ever happened  that planes VANISH without a trace

I wasn't talking about that.

And NO ONE has yet explained THIS.  Jet fuel burned up in the first 10 seconds in a fireball.. office furniture and interior burnables can not heat steel to this degree

What degree?

I have forged swords... you need coal and a blower and even then the steel cools as soon as you remove it in minutes?

Yes, you need a large furnace, capable of supplying large amounts of oxygen to melt iron, but you don't need to melt iron or steel to make it less resistant.

So explain how this stayed red hot actually orange hot for 6 weeks?

I'm not good at chemistry either, what I know is that fire needs oxygen, so for it (whatever "it" may have been) to still be burning it would have need a constant air supply.

[ArMaP]

THIS is a typical plane crash hitting the ground



THIS is the plane crash in Shanksville



Still "Plausible"? 

I wasn't talking about that. 

[Sinny]

I'm not a structural engineer either...
But those holes in the towers were quite obviously made by bombs, not planes.

I'm with the hologram theory, so absurd the masses would never believe it.