Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[sky otter]

ok.. i'll play along with the above
but my elephant in the room question is


WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT


and yes you can consider that rhetorical

[spacemaverick]

Sky Otter, was the question directed to me.  In this case I am merely presenting another possibility among the myriad of other possibilities.  Governments, government entities do things to suit their purposes and don't tell the people why.  With all the equipment this article says we have in the area, I think someone knows something and just won't tell.  I personally would like to see the aircraft found with all intact but I think that will not happen at this point.  Other countries in the region to include Malaysia have admitted that they have slacked in the response regarding information from the supposedly doomed flight.

I guess my main point from this story is the number of information gathering sites around the area should have been monitoring the flights and picked up something.

From Jack Arneson's portion of livingmoon.com website we see projects by Boeing, Eschelon stations in several areas in that region, ECHELON/MOUS station in Western Australia, floating and stationary X band radar available...the technology is there to track which is called signals intelligence.  Now I do know one thing...stations like this are all over the globe and there are anywhere from 6,000 to 8500 planes in the air all over the world during peak hours.  Plane goes off course, someone is going to catch it.  Here is the link to Jacks part of livingmoon.com...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/index.html#Boeing

Sorry I should have been more specific with regards to my entry. (The technology is there) (The militaries of our various allies are there)  These units gather signals intelligence from all over including air traffic, more so after 9-11.  All the information is not out there for us to see.  The only satellite pictures seen are from a civilian satellite...(1)  So what's up I ask?

[sky otter]

Sky Otter, was the question directed to me

no of course not.. i knew it was a rense thing..

and yes it is just another in the long list of really strange ideas some folks seem to be having fun presenting

i should have just let it stand and not commented..

but i agree with you that somebody knows  and i'm just frustrated with the world at large
and can only imagine what the families are going thur

sorry maverick.. you have been  point on this  and doing a good job

[burntheships]

somebody knows  and i'm just frustrated with the world at large
and can only imagine what the families are going thu

sky, yes I am feeling this with you here.

They have stuck a nerve. 

@ Spacemav, thanks for the updates!

[spacemaverick]

Just want to thank everyone for their input.  I wish we could find an answer and my heart is heavy for those who are lost or hidden.  We may find the answer if the aircraft is found or we may not.  In times like these we should put aside the petty quarrels between people and band together to fight the evil we encounter around us.  The people here at Pegasus have a good start on that by putting our minds together as thinkers and doers.  There are governments and institutions that want people to follow and not think for themselves, they don't want us to be critical thinkers and ask the hard questions.  We must keep on keeping on.

Some of the places that information has been obtained up to this point may be questionable but nevertheless we can pull out the kernels we find to be true and put together a picture that makes some sense I hope.  I will continue to look at satellite images by Digital Globe until the aircraft is found.

If anyone comes across with breaking news, please let everyone know as soon as possible.  Keeping asking the hard questions and lets see if we can find the answers as a think tank.

Warmest Regards to all....Rod...

[spacemaverick]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/australia-checking-objects-search-plane-22981640

The first plane sent Friday to fly over one of the remotest places on Earth returned empty-handed from its hunt through rough seas for objects that may be from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, Australian officials said.

Another three planes were still in the area trying to help solve the nearly 2-week-old aviation mystery, and another was on the way to look for two large objects a satellite detected floating off the southwest coast of Australia about halfway to the desolate islands of the Antarctic.

The area in the southern Indian Ocean is so remote is takes aircraft four hours to fly there and four hours back, and leaves them only about two hours to search.

The satellite discovery raised new hope of finding the vanished jet and sent another emotional jolt to the families of the 239 people aboard.

A search Thursday with four planes in cloud and rain found nothing, and so far efforts Friday were the same, with a Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion plane flying back to Australia.

Lets hope they can find something!

[andolin]

Finding Debris this late in the game is probably meaningless, even if it was positively identified as parts of the plane, it could have been placed there at this point..

[spacemaverick]

The search goes on in the area where the satellite saw the debris.  Australia said that the debris could have sunk by now.  They say it could have been a container that fell off a ship.  They continue to search the area with more aircraft joining the search.  Each country is assigned a search and rescue area.  Some are going back to the reas around the Andaman Islands and up near Thailand.  China, Japan and Britain join the search. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/world/asia/missing-malaysia-flight.html?_r=0

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/21/china-sends-ships-indian-ocean-as-search-for-missing-jet-debris-intensifies/

http://time.com/33133/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-australia-missing-plane/

[deuem]

I am beginning to make my own idea up.

If this was all planned then what they could have done is to file a flight plan for another plane from to where ever, drop down and out of sight. Fly near another runway and pop up with different transponder codes and just fly like normal from that point on. It would be easy to fake the passengers and crew. jump up to 45k, wobble around, drop the air masks and shout over the speakers that they have a problem and will return to base.

So the plane does a left hand turn to start the drill, fly's back and prepares to land. Then the pilot reports everything is fine and will now return to the original flight plan to China. When he went low he changed the codes and once in the air again he was a different plane and headed into Asia as a normal flight. Once they landed where ever, the passengers got out and figured they were not in Kansas but being held captive. The plane by now has been repainted and flown off somewhere else to do other work. The passengers are either all dead or in captivity being held for ransom. This is why it is all being kept on the QT.

A way to check this out would be to check out all the airplanes in the air that night from 1 hour plus into the flight. See if they are all normal flights or has there been a new one added, like a chartered flight and not a normal flight. If this is the case then follow the arc north. It looks political so far and with no leads coming out to the public except for a lot of searching. Someone has that plane and by now they have disabled the engine pings. So it can fly blind. If they knew when they pinged, they would have just under an hour to get it on the ground and turned off. The ping would stop.

Deuems idea..........

[spacemaverick]

A very valid idea.  Given that nothing can be found floating.  The things that bothered me and made me think this was not an accident;

Deliberate left turn with no change in altitude.

Dropping down to a low altitude for a short while.

Ascending to 45,000 then dropping to 25000.

Engine pings and transponder being turned off.

Change of courses into the flight management system computer.

The fact of information still coming from aircraft after it disappeared.

This all speaks to deliberate action by a person or persons.

[COSMO]

Out over the ocean at night, past the southern end of India,  to the Maldives, turn north and head to pakistan, all low level flying over the ocean. 

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!  lol


Cosmo

[zorgon]

The search goes on in the area where the satellite saw the debris.

There will be no debris...

ever since 9/11 plane crashes vaporize without leaving a trace

In the old days when a big plane went down luggage and other small debris was EVERYWHERE leaving no doubt   

but there was no such plane debris at the Pentagon, or at that field in Pennsylvania or at the towers save a lone passport that survived

So there will be no plane debris this time either

[spacemaverick]

Zorgon...I am inclined to agree with you at this point.  It is getting harder to accept anything else.  I watched an hour and half of a TWO 800 documentary from whistle blowers and victims and it makes me mad and sick at the same time.

[ArMaP]

There will be no debris...

ever since 9/11 plane crashes vaporize without leaving a trace

Not the Air France 447.

[Ellirium113]

At this point I believe if any debris turns up on this, it will be because it was deliberately planted there after it was scrubbed to bring closure to millions of prying eyes.