Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[Somamech]

And also recall some people are apparently in China divulging secret's

http://www.gravwave.com/chi_joint_project.htm

Last night the media here in Oz were reporting how OZ mil were looking around Perth .. Today Oz media are reporting how Malaysia are calling for help from NSA, Pine Gap and what have you ? 

This is cuckooland LOL

[Somamech]

Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: plea to US to release Pine Gap data

Kuala Lumpur: Malaysia believes data from US spy satellites monitored in Australia could help find missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 but the information is being withheld.
The country's Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein has specifically asked the US to share information obtained from the Pine Gap base near Alice Springs, according to the government-controlled New Straits Times newspaper.
Authorities in Kuala Lumpur believe that finding the plane now depends on the willingness of a number of countries to share potentially sensitive radar and satellite data.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-plea-to-us-to-release-pine-gap-data-20140319-hvkf2.html#ixzz2wRA5wAhZ

[burntheships]

BURNTHESHIPS go read some more ZH.

It's there. *edit* however it may well be buried in the comments section, which as everyone who regularly uses ZH knows are at least as valuable as the articles.

Sometimes people can make comments that are credible,
but more often they make comments that are not credible.

Do you really believe that a Malay 777 is going to have 20 tons
of gold in the cargo? LOL!

p.s. not saying you were fibbing I was merely pointing out that
the actual ARTICLE did not have that silly info in it.

[burntheships]

Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: plea to US to release Pine Gap data

I am really wondering about this Soma, maybe they can not
release the details, however maybe they have given some
general idea of the idications?

JORN ( Jindalee Operational Radar Network ) has two OTHR
1. near Longreach in Queensland 2. near Laverton in Western Australia
for detection of air and surface targets inside an arc of up to 3000km
from Geraldton in the west to around to Cairns in the east.

I read that the antennae were focused north about the time
that MH370 did its thing...we know they are very senstive
even about the positioning of antennae, they keep those
covered for more than one reason.

[LSWONE]

Freescale Semiconductor

Chinese aircraft stealth technology. Twenty employees on board. Hardware and software in the cargo hold.

That technology was stolen from us.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/562572-freescale-semiconductor-20-employees-on-board-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane/

Well the Semicon industry has it's hands in all kinds of Space and Defense projects. most of the larger Semicons have a Space/Defense group. Can you imagine the kinds of stuff the Techie/Hobbyist  guys do when they have some free time?

I bet some of these guys could whip up some really gadgets if given the time and cash. I attended a bring your kid to work event and felt left out for not bringing anything for show and tell. Nothing mind blowing but one of the Dryden guys had a really cool personal hovercraft that whooshed him around outside and it was not that loud.

[sky otter]

well of course it had to come to this headline..i'm surprised it didn't happen sooner
i'm sure the what if's and why's will be heavy on the ground whiule everyone tosses stones at everyone else..
gee humanity at it's normal...how sad   

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/u-s-officials-deny-holding-back-missing-jet-n56701


US denies holding back on missing jet
Officials strongly refuted reports the US is withholding any information from Malaysia regarding the airliner.

Can't we track their phones? Your questions answered
Chaotic conference | Maldives sightings 'not true'
Flight simulator files erased | MSN Malaysia's report


U.S. Officials Deny Holding Back on Missing Jet

U.S. defense and intelligence officials strongly denied reports the United States is withholding or refusing to share any information or data with the Malaysian government regarding the missing Malaysian airliner.

Both defense and intel officials insisted the U.S. continues to share all military or intelligence data available while acknowledging there's not been much to share.

According to one senior U.S. official, "It would be absolutely stunning if we have withheld anything."

Attorney General Eric Holder, speaking at a news conference regarding the federal government's settlement with Toyota, said American authorities "are trying to offer whatever assistance that we can. But at this point, I don't think we have any theories that I could propound."

Holder said, "We will make available whatever resources that we have — whatever expertise we have that we might be able to, might be able to be used."

Defense officials confirmed that Malaysian Defense Minister Hishamumuddin Hussein called U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Tuesday to ask for any information being gathered by U.S. surveillance satellites and radar systems that could provide any clues regarding the missing Malaysian airliner.

U.S. officials said the Malaysian defense minister, facing a daily onslaught of questions and accusations, asked Hagel how to deal with the public backlash and demand for information. Hagel reportedly told his counterpart to be as transparent as possible, provide as much accurate information as possible in a timely manner, and try to stay ahead of the story.

— Jim Miklaszewski
First published March 19 2014, 7:38 AM

.............................................

coming back to add this.. i hope they find an answer to this..whatever it is.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-26649690

19 March 2014 Last updated at 16:48 ET


.White House says FBI 'aiding MH370 investigation'


The FBI is aiding the Malaysian government's search for a Malaysia Airlines jet missing for more than a week.

The US investigators are believed to be helping the Malaysians examine a home flight simulator belonging to one of the pilots of flight MH370 for clues.

The pilot is said to have deleted some files from the computer simulator.

Teams from 26 countries are trying to find flight MH370, which went missing on 8 March with 239 people on board.

The flight was headed from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The FBI, through its legal office in Kuala Lumpur, "continues to engage with appropriate Malaysian authorities and provide support where necessary to the Malaysian government in their investigation of the missing aircraft," according to a statement issued on Wednesday.

The agency would not comment on the specifics of their investigation, nor what had been communicated to its investigators by Malaysian authorities.

On Wednesday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Malaysia was also speaking to US aviation and transport accident investigation agencies.

"We are finding that the level of cooperation with the Malaysian government is solid, and we are working closely with the Malaysians as well as our other international partners in this effort to find out what happened to the plane and why it happened," he said.

A US law enforcement official told Reuters the Malaysian officials gave the FBI access to data generated by both pilots including data from a hard drive attached to the captain's flight simulator and electronic media used by a co-pilot.

But the official stressed there was no guarantee the FBI analysis would lead to further clues.

Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu said some data was deleted on 3 February from the simulator found at Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home and that investigators were trying to recover the deleted files.

The acting transport minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, stressed the captain should be considered innocent until proven guilty and that members of his family were co-operating with the investigation. Deleting files would not necessarily be suspicious, particularly if it were done to free up memory space.

The Malaysian authorities have said the evidence so far suggests the Boeing-777 was deliberately turned back across Malaysia to the Strait of Malacca with its communications systems disabled. They are unsure what happened next.

Investigators have identified two giant arcs of territory spanning the possible positions of the plane about seven hours after take-off.

This is based on its last faint signal to a satellite - an hourly "handshake'' broadcast even when communications are switched off. The arcs stretch up as far as Kazakhstan in central Asia and deep into the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia.

Investigators are considering the possibility of hijacking, sabotage, terrorism or issues related to the mental health of the pilots or anyone else on board.

Earlier on Wednesday, frustration with the lack of progress boiled over into chaotic scenes as Chinese relatives were dragged away from journalists in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia's capital.

They were attempting to speak to Chinese journalists outside the daily press conference.

A BBC reporter was pushed away from the relatives, who were carrying banners criticising the handling of the case.

One of the relatives, a middle-aged woman, cried: "They give different messages every day! Where's the flight now? Find our relatives! Find the aircraft!"

The Malaysian government said later it regretted the scenes and ordered an investigation, saying "one can only imagine the anguish they are going through".

[ArMaP]

Meaning why or who cares how they got it there if it got there it got there!

If it was not possible for the hypothetical gold bars to get there then it means it's not true.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Maybe they used a fleet of Mini's like in 'the Italian Job'

[Gigas]

20 tonnes a gold is 40 k pounds and the 777 could easily handle that.


With a maximum takeoff weight of 766,800 pounds (347,810 kilograms), the 777 Freighter has a revenue payload capability of 112 tons

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_freighterback.page

Diego Garcia has a port for ships to berth and if this landed there, it could unload something

[deuem]

It is made up.

No gold bars as cargo with mangosteens.



Zero Hedge article here - NO mention of Gold Bars and
Navy Seals

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-18/did-missing-flight-mh370-land-maldives-or-diego-garcia-full-updated-summary

SO fruit bat, that information does not appear to have come
from Zero Hedge. 

The gold stort is not in that article but there are references to gold in others. Digging a little deeper there is a hypothetical story.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-15/missing-malaysian-flight-mystery-deepens-pilot-investigated-foul-play-suspected
China has been buying Gold from all over the world and to ship it in by plane is not unusual.

A snipit
"Which is why instead of merely looking at the passenger manifest, perhaps it is time to look at the cargo manifest as well. Was there anything on board the plane, one serving the all-important Beijing route, that may have made the stealthy theft of the plane a sufficiently attractive risk/return proposition to the pilots?
Purely hypothetically, a 777 has a cargo hold that, in addition to passengers and baggage, can hold somewhere between 20 and 25 tons. 25 tons of gold, on a less than public Malaysia-China "official import-bypassing" route, would have a value of a little over $1 billion, four times more than the value of a new Boeing 777. So perhaps instead of robbing the cargo from the plane, some more enterprising thought would be to get the pilots in on the play, and steal the entire plane, mid-flight."

I have not found any reference to any Seals, Dead or alive.

What was in the cargo hold?, Anyone seen that list yet? That plane can hold 25 tons or more.

Crazy stuff on that site. Deuem

[deuem]

If it was not possible for the hypothetical gold bars to get there then it means it's not true.

Maybe they would use a hypothetical truck. And until the real story comes out, all stories are hypothetical. We can only wait and see what the truth might be.
D

[ArMaP]

And until the real story comes out, all stories are hypothetical.

Yes, but if accepting things that were not possible is a waste of time, so, if we can clear those first I think we should.

[08rubicon]

  Just because one person may think something 'impossible', does
not make it impossible.
     rubicon

[burntheships]

Hi Deuem,

I have not found any reference to any Seals, Dead or alive.

What was in the cargo hold?, Anyone seen that list yet? That plane can hold 25 tons or more.

News sources report the cargo was mangosteens.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/no-hazardous-cargo-just-tonnes-of-mangosteens-on-flight-mh370-says-airlines

If MH370 was loaded with Gold no one would report that,
also there would need to be some serious, very serious
guard on that, that and it is not protocol to transport
gold on civilian flights.

Just for the record - ( not directed at any person )

A report emerged from the Russian and European Union media on Tuesday said the US had seized MH370. Quoting a statement claimed to be from the main intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) at Kremlin in Russia, media reports said Russian agencies were 'puzzled' as to why the United States Navy captured and then diverted the plane to their vast and highly secretive naval base Diego Garcia in the southern part of the Indian Ocean.

The reports said the aircraft had been diverted by the US remotely with the help of a fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls with an electronic interface allowing it to be controlled like any drone-type aircraft.

The GRU was keeping a tab on the flight as it believed that there was a 'suspicious' cargo on board, which was earlier traced to the Republic of Seychelles where it kept aboard the US-flagged container ship, the MV Maersk Alabama.

The theory goes further attacking the US government by linking this cargo with the suspicious death of two highly trained US Navy Seals -- Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, who had been allegedly protecting the cargo on board the US cargo ship. However, the deaths of Navy Seals was reported in the international media earlier. Also it adds that Moscow had alerted China's ministry of state security (MSS) about the flight carrying 'highly suspicious' cargo before the flight.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Malaysia-Airlines-mystery-Singapore-Airlines-shadow-US-suspicious-cargo-and-other-theories-keep-kins-hope-alive/articleshow/32257782.cms

If one looks up the EU Times, we find that article:

http://www.eutimes.net/2014/03/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-capture-by-us-navy/

If one follows that "source" link it it directly to Sorcha Faal.
( known disninformation artist controlled by Russia )

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm

In any case, it seems the real path  MH370 flew
is being narrowed down, maybe there is still hope.   

[deuem]

Yes, but if accepting things that were not possible is a waste of time, so, if we can clear those first I think we should.

For myself the only thing I have accepted is that there is a plane missing. Everything else is being spoon fed when they want to. Conflicting data seems to be the norm. Without knowing what was in the cargo bay we will never know if it was gold, diamonds or toilet paper. Now I read that the planes worth new is about 250 million.

Your idea of it not being possible is your idea. How are we going to clear things that we have no control over. Wave a magic wand? At this time most likely 90% of the picture is being held back. I doubt if only one sat picked up that ping. Should have been more of them. Triangulation on cell phones that were ringing long after? Something bigger here is afoot and no one is talking. They can pinpoint the new cell phones to within a half a meter. Many calls were made that went unanswered. So all of that data is missing. If the call went through then so did the trace. Where is this info?

If you want to waste time figure out what happened there?

In our world fact is stranger than fiction, so I will wait and guess.

Deuem