Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[WarToad]

That says it was taken March 30 2014.

The hi-jack of mh370 was March 8 2014.

Thats 22 days of a cellphone in the hinder with no charge. Has that ever been tested?

Will a cellphone battery stay charged enough 22 days later to snap a pick and do some texting with a signal off a Diego Garcia cellphone tower....

I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 mini.  I rarely use it.  I can get a charge to last 10-12 days, tops.  I suspect a non-mini phone with a larger battery might stretch that, but 22 days even off a full charge?  I suspect no, just based off my own phone.

Hypothetically though, he could have turned it off for the flight and then turned it back on for the pic.  That would work fine.

[Fruitbat]

I remember someone saying that it was impossible to turn off an iphone because you couldn't physically remove the battery, and that the reciever section stayed running... If that is true than there is a maximum time limit on how long it will remain serviceable for.

A bit of consideration also suggests that there is a maximum amount of time that you can store a mobile fone up yer jacksie, and it's likely to be measured in hours not days.

Given that we tin foil hat wearers are the only people on the world actually doing a "proper" investigaton of this, it suggests that we were as a group getting close to the truth and that this red herring has been introduced to distract us.

By "us" I mean people like us, not just those on pegasus.

So can anyone remember what was the emergent theory just before the "mobile up his jacksie" story arrived to distract us?

FB.

P.S. The difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory, is the the truth when presented is self evident, whereas a red herring tends to have a lot of supporting evidence, repetition, and hoopla around it. Especially look out for repetition.. A lot of the bad guys are would be magicians, and magic as we all know, is fuelled by repetition. As is propaganda.

[zorgon]

Breaking News Da Plane found near an Island

[Eighthman]

I think there are a few simple facts about 370 that should be obvious:

1) there were a lot of Freescale people on board who may be critical to the development of some extremely advanced tech - and some might want to keep this tech away from China.

2) Zionists and NeoCons want some false flag event to justify war with Iran and to a lesser extent, Pakistan.

3) China holds veto power in the UN and they have managed to avoid most terrorist/Muslim attributed trouble.

So, I see 370 as a failed false flag attempt to include China as a co-victim in some hijacking scheme in which the plane was probably intended as a 9/11 style bomb.

[spacemaverick]

Was watching some of the news about the search, theories etc...today.  What a confused mess of reporting, more theories being thrown out there, talk...talk...talk....and saying nothing and lending confusion to the whole incident.  Now it's being said that the left turn was criminal...how would anyone know that in the absence of any real evidence.  One idea that someone came up with had some merit.  Someone came up with the idea of sending up investigators to fly the possible routes that the aircraft may have flown.  Right now it seems they are all over the ocean out there.

I heard that it takes too long to fly out and fly back...Well we have enough aircraft carriers among the nations to launch some aircraft over a wider area and do a grid search and cover more areas at once with longer staying time over the area.  Yeah it cost money but we are throwing money at wars we can't win anyway.  Innocent lives taken or lost and all the technology (black or otherwise) and we can't find missing aircraft.  Maybe our technology isn't as good as we thought. (I think "Z" came up with that thought.

Okay, I'm through venting and I feel better now.  I just feel it's a sad commentary when we can't find a large aircraft like that and governments and corporations really don't step up to the plate to help.  Kudos to those who do step up to the plate to help.

[spacemaverick]

http://intellihub.com/full-transcript-mh370s-radio-transmissions-went-dark/

I see they changed the last line of the transcript regarding the last transmission heard from the aircraft.

[Eighthman]

If you have any doubts as to what the Insiders want, then consider This Weeks' Episode of Intelligence on CBS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(U.S._TV_series)

It's all about evil Iranian sleeper agents trying kill a female Presidential candidate.  Really?  I will be discreet and not speculate about the political loyalties of the shows writers and producers (hint, hint).

There is a clear attempt to set up Iran as 'the enemy' - not the Wahabi Jihadists who sponsor extremism all over the world and who pretend to be the US's "friend".

This sort of propaganda disguised as entertainment should be instructive as what's really going on with airplanes or otherwise.

[The Matrix Traveller]

Confusion = Delaying Tactics !

Delaying tactics is to try and hide something.... even it is only embarrassment.

Someone is Responsible for what happened.

But Like I say it comes down to a Failure in "Auditing" !

[spacemaverick]

Confusion = Delaying Tactics !

Delaying tactics is to try and hide something.... even it is only embarrassment.

Someone is Responsible for what happened.

But Like I say it comes down to a Failure in "Auditing" !

So very true Matrix....so very true....Now I wonder who?  It will come to light at some point and time and of course they will deny it.

[The Matrix Traveller]

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/corporate-info/press-room/2014/malaysia-airlines-inks-it-solutions-deal-with-ramco-systems-for-greater-efficiency.html

Malaysia Airlines Inks IT Solutions Deal with Ramco Systems for Greater Efficiency

New system covers Ramco's full suite of Maintenance & Engineering (M&E), MRO, HR & Financial solutions

Subang, Malaysia / Chennai, India – March 3, 2014 –

Malaysia Airlines today announced a strategic partnership with Chennai based Ramco Systems, an IT solutions provider, for a suite of critical enterprise-wide engineering solutions that includes aircraft maintenance, maintenance service sales, operational, human resources and financial functions.

This advanced solution which integrates business processes and people, company-wide, will serve the entire engineering functions for Malaysia Airlines group including Firefly, MASwings and MASkargo, and also support its Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul (MRO) services. 

The implementation allows Malaysia Airlines to operate state-of-the-art aviation business processes to improve and optimise fleet management and give advance updates on MRO and engineering matters, facilitating decision-making on both desk-top and mobile devices.

[micjer]

If this is a hi-jacking and they wanted people on flight, or gold, or rights to patents, what ever the reason for it, why are they still looking for it?

Why didn't they find "debris" and a passport or two, to make everyone go away!  Throw a piece of  the tail with the number of the jet stuck to a seat cushion somewhere floating in the ocean, and declare that there were no survivors.  Just wondering!

[sky otter]

http://news.msn.com/world/flight-mh370%e2%80%99s-disappearance-is-now-a-criminal-investigation



Flight MH370's Disappearance Is Now a Criminal Investigation

The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia's police chief.

The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 — specifically the turn it took off course — has now been classified as a criminal investigation, according to Malaysia's police chief. He also cautioned that their investigation may still not arrive at any concrete conclusions.

According to CNN, radar and satellite data show the flight turning off course and flying back across Malaysia before heading out over the Indian Ocean. That change of course is being investigated as a "criminal act." There is no information as to who committed the supposed criminal act.

Meanwhile, lawyers have already begun contacting families of those on board about possible multimillion-dollar settlements in U.S. courts over the incident. One law firm is floating the idea of legal action against Boeing, the plane's manufacturer, although the obviously imprecise nature of the case makes it unprecedented. From The New York Times:

The rush is on to secure compensation for families of the flight's 227 passengers, about two-thirds of whom are Chinese. Insurance companies [in China] have already made payments to some relatives. On top of that, the families can expect to receive compensation from Malaysia Airlines because of guarantees in an international treaty. They can also opt to sue the airline for more damages, or sue Boeing or a component manufacturer. Any lawsuit could take years to conclude.

Some families are reluctant to take legal action or even accept the payments required by international treaties in an event such as this one, instead hoping that the plane will still be found or suspecting that there is still information being covered up.

More from The Wire

Will Flight 370 Change the Future of Flying?

[spacemaverick]

http://intellihub.com/15-questions-flight-mh370-media-isnt-asking/

Okay, this does not surprise me at all.  The governments really do not care what happened to those people on board that flight.  This type of thing makes me mad.

Malaysian media should pose the following 15 critical questions to the US and its Intelligence Services and not to the Malaysian Government

By Matthias Chang | Global Research

Let me state from the outset that I totally agree with the press statements by Malaysia's Defence Minister and Acting Transport Minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein that "we have conducted ourselves fairly, responsibly and history will judge us for that."

And to a mischievous and presumptuous question from a correspondent of the Financial Times, Datuk Seri with confidence and integrity rightly said without any fear of contradiction that, "I don't think we could have done anything different from what we have already done."  Well done!

The Financial Times, CNN and other foreign media ought to pose similar questions to the US and its intelligence services and stop insinuating that Malaysia has not been transparent and/or engaged in a cover-up. Foreign media should stop engaging in dirty politics!

It is my hope that following the publication of this article, Malaysian mass media will focus on questioning the integrity of the US's assistance to Malaysia in the first three weeks of the SAR mission, notwithstanding its recent offer of more assistance.

I take comfort that my reservations about the US and its intelligence services as well as other intelligence services closely linked to the US, especially British secret service, have been more than vindicated by Reuters in its news report on 28th March, 2014 entitled Geopolitical games handicap hunt for flight MH370

The search for flight MH370, the Malaysian Airlines jetliner that vanished over the South China Sea on March 8, has involved more than two dozen countries and 60 aircraft and ships but has been bedevilled by regional rivalries.

... With the United States playing a relatively muted role in the sort of exercise that until recently it would have dominated, experts and officials say there was no real central coordination until the search for the plane was confined to the southern Indian Ocean, when Australia largely took charge.

Part of the problem is that Asia has no NATO-style regional defence structure, though several countries have formal alliances with the United States. Commonwealth members Malaysia, Singapore, New Zealand and Australia also have an arrangement with Britain to discuss defence matters in times of crisis.

As mystery deepened over the fate of the Boeing 777 and its 239 passengers and crew, most of them Chinese, it became clear that highly classified military technology might hold the key.

But the investigation became deadlocked over the reluctance of others to share sensitive data, a reticence that appeared to harden as the search area widened.

"This is turning into a spy novel," said an envoy from a Southeast Asian country, noting it was turning attention to areas and techniques few countries liked to publicly discuss.

Ultimately, the only country with the technical resources to recover the plane – or at least its black box recorder, which could lie in water several miles deep – may be the United States. Its deep-sea vehicles ultimately hauled up the wreckage of Air France 447 after its 2009 crash into a remote region of the South Atlantic.

While Putrajaya has been forced to reveal some of the limits and ranges of its air defences, the reluctance of Malaysia's neighbours to release sensitive radar data may have obstructed the investigation for days.

At an ambassadorial meeting in the ad hoc crisis centre at an airport hotel on March 16, Malaysia formally appealed to countries on the jet's possible path for help, but in part met with polite stonewalling, two people close to the talks said.

Some countries asked Malaysia to put its request in writing, triggering a flurry of diplomatic notes and high-level contacts.

'It became a game of poker in which Malaysia handed out the cards at the table but couldn't force others to show their hand," a person from another country involved in the talks said.

As in the northern Indian Ocean, where Chinese forces operate alongside other nations to combat Somali piracy, current and former officials say all sides are almost certainly quietly spying on and monitoring each other at the same time. (emphasis added)

WantChinaTimes, Taiwan reported,

The United States has taken advantage of the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight to test the capabilities of China's satellites and judge the threat of Chinese missiles against its aircraft carriers, reports our sister paper Want Daily.

Erich Shih, chief reporter at Chinese-language military news monthly Defense International, said the US has more and better satellites but has not taken part in the search for flight MH370, which disappeared about an hour into its flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of March 8 with 239 people on board. Shih claimed that the US held back because it wanted to see what information China's satellites would provide.

The above is the reality which we have to confront. Therefore, desist any attempt to label the above mainstream media articles as a "conspiracy theory". Reuters has let the Genie out of the bottle!

Malaysia's Minister of Transport Datuk Seri Hishammuddin gave hints of Malaysia's difficulties (as his hands were tied by intelligence protocols and or refusal by the relevant foreign intelligence services and diplomatic reluctance) but our local media failed to appreciate the nuances of his statements by not directing their questions at those parties that have failed Malaysia as their neighbour and in their duties under various defence treaties and arrangements.

Malaysian media, please read at the minimum three times, the sentences in bold AND WAKE UP TO THE REALITY that our country has been badly treated even though our country put all its national security cards on the table so that countries whose nationals are passengers on flight MH 370 could come forward with sincerity to assist in resolving this unfortunate tragedy which is not Malaysia's making.

Malaysia is but a victim of this tragedy whose plane, MH 370 was used for a hidden agenda for which only time will reveal.

In my previous article posted to the website on the 27th March, 2014, I exposed how Israel is exploiting the tragedy to create public opinion for a war against Iran, a Muslim country that has close ties with Malaysia.

At the outset of the SAR Mission, all concerned stated categorically that every scenario, no matter how unlikely would be examined critically with no stones left unturned – terrorist hijacking, suicide mission, technical failures, inadequate security, criminal actions of the pilot and or co-pilot etc.

Given the above premise, families of the passengers and the crew of MH 370 have every right to ask the following questions of the US and other countries that have sophisticated technologies to track and monitor airplanes and ships in all circumstances.

Such questions should not be shot down by those who have a hidden agenda that such queries amount to "conspiracy theories". Far from being conspiracy theories, we assert that the questions tabled below and the rationale for asking them are well founded and must be addressed by the relevant parties, failing which an inference ought to be drawn that they are complicit in the disappearance of MH 370.

Lets us begin.

1)        Was the plane ordered to turn back, if so who gave the order?

2)        Was the plane turned back manually or by remote control?

3)        If the latter, which country or countries have the technologies to execute such an operation?

4)        Was MH 370 weaponised before its flight to Beijing?

5)        If so, what are the likely methods for such a mission – Biological weapons, dirty bombs?

6)        Was Beijing / China the target and if so why?

7)        Qui Bono?

        The time sequence of countries identifying the alleged MH 370 debris in the Indian ocean was first made by Australia followed by France, Thailand, Japan, and Britain via Immarsat. Why did US not offer any satellite intelligence till today?

9)        Prior to the switch of focus to the Indian ocean, was the SAR mission in the South China seas, used as a cover for the deployment of undersea equipment to track and monitor naval capabilities of all the nations' navies competing for ownership of disputed territorial waters? Reuters as quoted above seems to have suggested such an outcome.

10)     Why was there been no focus, especially by foreign mass media, on the intelligence and surveillance capabilities of Diego Garcia, the strategic naval and air base of the US?

11)     Why no questions were asked whether the flight path of MH 370 (if as alleged it crashed in the Indian Ocean), was within the geographical parameters of the Intelligence capabilities of Diego Garcia? Why were no planes deployed from Diego Garcia to intercept the "Unidentified" plane which obviously would pose a threat to the Diego Gracia military base?

12)     The outdated capabilities of the Hexagon satellite system deployed by the US in the 1970s has a ground resolution of 0.6 meters;  what's more, the present and latest technologies boast the ability to identify objects much smaller in size. Why have such satellites not provided any images of the alleged debris in the Indian Ocean? Were they deliberately withheld?

13)     On April 6th, 2012, the US launched a mission dubbed "NROL-25" (consisting of a spy satellite) from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The NROL-25 satellite was likely rigged with "synthetic aperture radar" a system capable of observing targets around the globe in daylight and darkness, able to penetrate clouds and identify underground structures such as military bunkers. Though the true capabilities of the satellites are not publicly known due to their top-secret classification, some analysts have claimed that the technology allows the authorities to zoom in on items as small as a human fist from hundreds of miles away. How is it that no imagery of MH370 debris was forwarded to Malaysia, as this capability is not classified though other technologies might well remain classified? (Source: Slate.com)

14)     Could it be that the above capabilities were not as touted?

15)     However, in December, 2013, the USAtlas V rocket was launched carrying the spy satellite NROL-39 for the National Reconnaissance Office, an intelligence agency which is often overshadowed by the notorious National Security Agency (NSA), only it scoops data via spy satellites in outer space. The "NROL-39 emblem" is represented by the Octopus a versatile, adaptive, and highly intelligent creature. Emblematically, enemies of the United States can be reached no matter where they choose to hide. The emblem boldly states "Nothing is beyond our reach". This virtually means that the tentacles of America's World Octopus are spreading across the globe to coil around everything within their grasp, which is, well, everything (Source: Voice of Moscow). Yet, the US with such capabilities remained silent. Why?

It cannot be said that it is not within the realm of probabilities that the US may not want the plane MH 370 to be recovered if rogue intelligence operators were responsible for the disappearance of MH 370.

If the above questions have been posed to the US and other intelligence agencies and answers are not forthcoming, I take the view that the Malaysian government ought to declare publicly that our national sovereignty and security have been jeopardized by the disappearance of MH 370 and that the relevant intelligence agencies have been tacitly complicit in the disappearance of MH370.

By coming out openly to explain the predicament faced by our country, Malaysia may prevent a hostile act against a third country.

I therefore call upon Malaysian mass media to be courageous and initiate such queries as only the US and other intelligence agencies can give definitive answers to the above 15 questions.

It is futile to demand answers from Malaysia as we are not in any position to supply the information as we do not have the capabilities of the global and regional military powers.

Malaysians must unite behind the government so that our leaders need not feel that they are alone shouldering this enormous burden.

Matthias Chang is a prominent Malaysian lawyer and author, who served as political secretary and adviser to former Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.

This article originally appeared at Global Research

So there you have it.  The world governments really do not care for the sheep as indicated in this article.  Here we have the most advanced technology (or so we think) and it has in all probability not been used for this incident and yet we were on it for the Air France crash.  We have the capability to help in this incident but the question is;  Did we use all our technology to help find this aircraft?  If not, why? (That was explained in detail here).  Are we more interested in intelligence (spying on another country) than we are just ordinary people?  Our current administration has indicated that you do not let a tragedy go to waste.  You use it to your advantage.  This has been the best article I have across thus far.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/01/356776/cia-knows-fate-of-malaysia-plane/


The CIA base in Australia knows what happened to the Malaysia Airlines passenger plane, says a prominent analyst.

"The CIA base in Alice Springs, Australia, knows precisely what happened to that plane," said Kevin Barrett in a Press TV interview on Monday, pointing to the base's access to military radar and satellite coverage in the area.


The rest can be seen at the above link?  Also contains a 23 minute video.  I wondered the same thing about Echelon monitoring in the area.

[Sinny]

Do we really need 'them' to confirm they know ewhere it is when we already know they know where it is?