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Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

Started by spacemaverick, March 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

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spacemaverick

Quote from: WarToad on April 29, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
Hanlon's razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

My theory is pilot poor decision.  Pilot who's wife had left him, was facing divorce, emotional, decided to hijack his own plane, realized he was in deep doo doo, complete mental break, hijack went to suicide with a lot of collateral damage.

Pilot took action on something he hadn't thought through all the way and then decided to wipe the slate clean.

I would deem this as plausible.  Its a possibility....
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spacemaverick

http://time.com/82105/australia-dismisses-possible-plane-wreckage-claim/

Australia Dismisses Possible Plane Wreckage Claim

(SYDNEY) — The Australian agency heading up the search for the missing Malaysian jet has dismissed a claim by a resource survey company that it found possible plane wreckage in the northern Bay of Bengal.

The location cited by Australia-based GeoResonance Pty Ltd. is thousands of kilometers (miles) north of a remote area in the Indian Ocean where the search for Flight 370 has been concentrated for weeks.

"The Australian led search is relying on information from satellite and other data to determine the missing aircraft's location. The location specified by the GeoResonance report is not within the search arc derived from this data," the Joint Agency Coordination Center, which is heading up the search off Australia's west coast, said in a statement on Tuesday. "The joint international team is satisfied that the final resting place of the missing aircraft is in the southerly portion of the search arc."

Good investigators check out all leads and rule each one out.
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spacemaverick

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sky otter



just another log on the bonfire of theory



http://intellihub.com/rothschild-owned-blackstone-group-benefits-missing-flight-370-becoming-primary-patent-holder-new-technology/

?Rothschild owned Blackstone Group benefits from missing flight 370, becoming primary patent holder of new technology, reports say

bizarre case of the missing Malaysian airliner, one plus one is starting to equal two
By Shepard Ambellas
Update April 4, 2014 12:31 AM EST: The passengers listed as patent holders in this article do not appear on the flight manifest released by Malaysian authorities. One of the first news sources to report the patent holder information was Express.co.uk. It is not yet known whether the manifest has been altered or if these people simply did not appear on the flight.

AUSTIN (INTELLIHUB) — New information, fact checked by Intellihub News, may shed some light on the missing Malaysian Airlines flight which was recently reported by Malaysian officials to have ended tragically in the Indian Ocean despite the lack of physical evidence.

While the disappearance of MH370 which had 239 people aboard is tragic, new bombshell information reveals that a Texas-based technology giant, Freescale Semiconductor Ltd., may have benefited in some way from the missing airliner which was reported to have been carrying 20 of Freescale's employees. Although it's obvious the loss of human life likely saddened employees and co-workers of Freescale, the possibility still remains that higher-ups in the corporation may have benefitted from the event.

"Freescale previously confirmed that the 20 employees — 12 from Malaysia and eight from China — were among 239 people on flight MH370. The company has not released the names of those employees, and again declined to do so on Monday.", as reported by Brian Gaar, the American Statesman, Mar. 24.

It has also been mentioned in a statement by a company spokesperson that the employees who were aboard MH370, were extremely talented and valuable in the technological field.

Freescale Semiconductor Ltd. is primarily owned by the Blackstone Group, i.e. Lord Jacob Rothschild, the same group responsible for spraying the highly-toxic Corexit 500A into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico in the months following the BP oil spill as reported early on by Intelihub News. Shockingly, we also see the Carlyle Group listed as a secondary investor adding another layer of suspicion for investigators.

The official entry listed under Freescale Semiconductor's "financials" section on Wikipedia states:

September 15, 2006, Freescale agreed to a $17.6 billion buyout by a consortium led by Blackstone Group and its co-investors, Carlyle Group, TPG Capital, and Permira. The buyout offer was accepted on November 13, 2006 following a vote by company shareholders. The purchase, which closed on December 1, 2006, was the largest private buyout of a technology company until the Dell buyout of 2013 and is one of the ten largest buyouts of all time.

As a journalist, I have to point out the vast amount of monies invested into this technology firm. It's not like $17.9B is a drop in the bucket by any means, likely signifying the true importance of this corporation. I also have to question why so many Freescale employees were on the same flight at the same time, as four of them were reported by several sources to have been U.S. patent holders of a new technology. This would likely have been a breach of protocol, but at the least a costly oversight.

In fact it's been reported by some that Peid Ong Wang, Suzhou, Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou and Li Ying, Suzhou, Freescale employees from China who were said to have been onboard flight 370, were each 20% holders of U.S. Patent #US008671381B1. Shockingly, the remaining 20% has been reported to be held by Freescale Semiconductor Ltd., which now after the disappearance of flight 370 becomes the sole patent holder. In laymen's terms, Lord Jacob Rothschild is now the patent holder by virtue of invested interest into Freescale Semiconductor Ltd.

bring things further into perspective, putting the icing on the cake, the Rothschild dynasty owns the Malaysian Central Bank which in-turn is heavily invested into the Malaysian government and Malaysian Airlines.

Need I say more?






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spacemaverick

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/world/asia/missing-plane-recordings/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

MH370: Plane audio recording played in public for first time to Chinese families
 

By Ivan Watson, CNN

updated 3:39 PM EDT, Tue April 29, 2014

Beijing (CNN) -- It sounds like standard radio chatter between an airplane and ground control, mostly repeating the identifying number of the flight.

But the recording that Malaysian officials played for the first time in public in a Beijing conference room on Tuesday is purportedly the last known words of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 before it disappeared on March 8.

"Malaysia three-seven-zero contact Ho Chi Minh 120.9, good night," says a voice identified by Malaysian officials as that of a radar controller in Kuala Lumpur, the Malaysian capital.

"Good night Malaysian three-seven-zero," answers a male voice believed to be a crew member on the plane.

Malaysian officials released the audio recording more than 50 days after the plane disappeared, in a long-awaited briefing before scores of relatives of the flight's Chinese passengers.

The session on Tuesday also included the release of a chronology of the aircraft's last known contacts with radar stations as well as a satellite orbiting over the Indian Ocean.

At 2:03 a.m. local time on March 8, the operational dispatch center of Malaysia Airlines sent a message to the cockpit instructing the pilot to contact ground control in Vietnam, said Sayid Ruzaimi Syed Aris, an official with Malaysia's aviation authority.

Sayid said flight MH370 did not respond to the message.

Fuel calculations

Nearly 20 minutes later, at 2:22, the Royal Malaysian Air Force picked up the flight for the last time on its radar system, Sayid said.

By that point, Sayid said, the plane was believed to have swerved far off course over the Malaysian coastal area of Penang, in the direction of the Malacca Strait.

According to Malaysian officials in Beijing on Tuesday, there was no direct communication between Malaysia Airlines and MH370 for a five-hour period, until the airline tried unsuccessfully to call the cockpit.

"At 7:13," Sayid said, Malaysia Airlines tried to "make a voice call to the aircraft, but no pickup."

If all had gone according to plan, MH370 would have landed at the international airport in Beijing at 6:30 a.m. on March 8.

Malaysian officials told Chinese families on Tuesday that, by their calculations, the aircraft would have run out of fuel seven hours and 31 minutes into the flight.

"Based on the fuel calculation ... the aircraft fuel starvation will occur at time 08:12," said Subas Chandran, a Malaysia Airlines representative.

The Malaysian delegation also published slides showing the last known "handshakes" between the aircraft and an Inmarsat satellite over the Indian Ocean.

The sixth and final handshake took place at 8:11 a.m. Malaysian time. According to these Inmarsat data points, in relation to the Inmarsat satellite, Flight 370 was far south of where it should have been if it had been on its planned route to Beijing.

MH370: New phase to include private contractors, may cost $60 million


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micjer

The media can tell us whatever they want and expect us to believe them.

However there is one thing that sticks out to me in all this mumble jumble.

That is the villagers in the Maldives reporting a low flying airplane with markings close to missing aircraft.  These folks have nothing to gain by lying.  If I were an investigator, that is where I would start.


So flying low to avoid radar, and heading to Diego Garcia.  That is my vote.
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ArMaP

Quote from: micjer on May 01, 2014, 11:57:41 AM
The media can tell us whatever they want and expect us to believe them.
They sure can. :)

QuoteThat is the villagers in the Maldives reporting a low flying airplane with markings close to missing aircraft.  These folks have nothing to gain by lying.  If I were an investigator, that is where I would start.
Who published that?

deuem

Since Diego Garcia is so well know, they must have another island closer for truely black projects. Probably not even on a map. There are too many people there for it never to get out. They would need a quite place with almost nobody around. Maybe even one that can go underwater.

spacemaverick

#669
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304677904579535411034475506?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304677904579535411034475506.html

CONFUSION REIGHNED WHEN MH 370 FIRST DISAPPEARED.  (SEE LINK ABOVE FOR REST OF STORY)

KUALA LUMPUR—Civilian air-traffic controllers spent precious time in the early hours of March 8 after  Malaysia Airlines  3786.KU +2.22%     Flight 370 veered off its flight path in befuddled exchanges with counterparts in nearby countries, newly released documents show.

As for the airline, for more than an hour after the plane went missing, its operation center continued to maintain that the plane was in "normal condition" and in communication.

It wasn't until 10:30 a.m. the following morning—more than nine hours after the plane vanished—before Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was informed that military radar had tracked the plane turning west toward the Indian Ocean. Mr. Hishammuddin then told Prime Minister Najib Razak.

During that stretch, according to the chronology released Thursday, Malaysian and Vietnamese traffic controllers had more than a dozen separate exchanges wondering about the location of the plane and its possible flight path, without any resolution or commencement of a search.
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spacemaverick

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/01/malaysia-airlines-report-idUSL3N0NN2LX20140501

UPDATE 2-Malaysia releases missing flight report, calls for real-time tracking

By Siva Govindasamy

KUALA LUMPUR, May 1 (Reuters) - Malaysia released a preliminary report on missing Flight MH370 on Thursday in which it recommended that the U.N. body overseeing global aviation consider introducing a system for tracking commercial aircraft in real time.

The document, dated April 9, also provided fresh details of attempts the authorities in Kuala Lumpur made to locate the Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 239 passengers and crew and of the exact flight path it is believed to have taken.

Flight MH370 disappeared off civilian radars while on a scheduled flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, and its fate remains a mystery despite the biggest search operation in aviation history.

In the report, Malaysia's Transport Ministry pointed to the disappearance of Flight MH370 and Air France Flight AF447 in 2009 as evidence that a system for real-time tracking would help to locate missing aircraft more easily in future.

MORE AT THE LINK.

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Amaterasu

And thus begins the efforts to track EVERYTHING on this planet - or more...  Softening Us for the truth:  They already do...?  Hmmmmmm.
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Fruitbat

Some guy in Vietnam by the name of tim akers says he has found bits of mh370 off the vietnam coast, according to my long suffering G/F's Blackberry this evening....

FB.

ArMaP

Quote from: Amaterasu on May 02, 2014, 01:00:01 AM
And thus begins the efforts to track EVERYTHING on this planet - or more...  Softening Us for the truth:  They already do...?  Hmmmmmm.
Aeroplanes are not "everything".  :)

sky otter


Analysts who listened to the recordings for NBC News did not know why they were edited, but discovered at least four clear breaks in the audio that indicated edits.


The tapes also appear to be recorded by at least two different audio sources




oh oh..there's more..the conspiracy grows yet again !   

Missing Jet Recordings May Have Been 'Edited': Experts

By Elizabeth Chuck
Audio recordings of the final conversations between pilots of the missing Malaysian jet and teams of air traffic controllers on the ground were "edited" before they were made public, voice experts say.

The tapes also appear to be recorded by at least two different audio sources, one of which may have been a digital recorder held up to a speaker, they said.

The analysts cautioned that their observations don't necessarily imply anything about the investigation into the missing flight.

The quality and brevity of the interactions between the cockpit and controllers made it impossible to glean any information about the pilots' state of mind before the plane disappeared, or even to determine whether both the pilot and co-pilot were speaking or if just one can be heard.

The audio recordings were published Thursday for the first time as part of a preliminary report by Malaysian authorities. In the report, Malaysia's Air Accident Investigation Bureau said a lack of real-time tracking devices caused "significant difficulty" in the hunt for MH 370, which disappeared March 8.

Analysts who listened to the recordings for NBC News did not know why they were edited, but discovered at least four clear breaks in the audio that indicated edits.

"It's very strange," said audio-video forensic expert and registered investigator Ed Primeau of Primeau Forensics, who has analyzed hundreds of audio recordings. He said the beginning and end of the recording are high-quality with a low noise floor, meaning ambient background noise is almost silent, unlike the middle.

"At approximately 1:14 (a minute, 14 seconds into the audio, which can be heard here), the tone of the recording change to where to me, it sounds like someone is holding a digital recorder up to a speaker, so it's a microphone-to-speaker transfer of that information. That's a pretty big deal because it raises the first red flag about there possibly being some editing," he said.

The next part that raises questions is two minutes, six seconds in, through two minutes, nine seconds in, he said.

"I can hear noise in the room, along with the increase in the noise floor. I can hear a file door being closed, I can hear some papers being shuffled. so I'm further convinced that, beginning at 1:14 continuing through 2:06 to 2:15, it's a digital recorder being held up to a speaker."

Long gaps in the communication throughout the recording also imply some editing, he said.

"But yet, at 6:17, there's a huge edit because the conversation is cut off. It's interrupted. And the tone changes again," he said. "The noise floor, when you're authenticating a recording from a forensic perspective, is a very important part of the process. All of a sudden, we go back to the same quality and extremely low noise floor that we had at the beginning of the recording."

Kent Gibson, a forensic audio examiner with Forensic Audio in Los Angeles, added that there appear to be additional edits at 2:11 and 5:08, and agreed it sounded as though the middle section was recorded with a microphone near a speaker.

"You can hear, at 4:07, pages turning or a person breathing, which is unusual," he said.

While it's not uncommon for the background of a recording to change when a cockpit communication turns over from ground control to air controllers — which happened about four minutes into this recording — that doesn't explain the noises that are heard.

"It's not unusual that there would be clicks when they push the button on the microphone, but it's very unusual to have a disturbance. Normally you wouldn't have any background," Gibson said.

A cut-off word also isn't out of the realm of possibility, he said.

"It wouldn't be unthinkable to have a truncated word because if somebody let go of the trigger on the microphone, it might cut off their word," he said. "But it would be very unusual to find a background differential at the same time, suggesting that Malaysian authorities or whoever presented this made edits for whatever reason."

Gibson said it's possible the tapes could have been edited by Malaysian authorities "if the pilot dropped a hint that they didn't want to get out, if he said something that doesn't fit with the Malaysian government's party line."

But, he said, "It's more likely to be an inadvertent thing. But it's not the way to handle evidence."

The recording also could have come from different sources, he added.

"You can assume that the recording while they're still on the ground came from the tower and then you could assume that the communication with air controllers was while they're in the air," he said. "They may have just mishandled the cobbling of it together."

This doesn't necessarily prove anything about the investigation, he added.

"Unfortunately, there are no smoking guns, except there are edits. And there are clear edits," he said.

Tom Owen, a consultant for Owen Forensic Services audio analysis and chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence, said edits were to be expected.

"There's things that have to do with timelines and radar that they have available, but they don't make them available," he said. "They wouldn't give you anything that would be enlightening for the public to any secretive information. I don't see that as a problematic issue."

Primeau disagreed.

"This is not a good maneuver or a good faith move by the Malaysian government because of all these questions with regard to the different anomalies and edits that are in this recording," he said.

Audio experts felt the quality of the transmissions was too low to offer analysis of the pilots' voices.

Forensic audio expert Paul Ginsberg said even after enhancing and slowing down the conversations, there wasn't good enough, or long enough, sound samples to make a determination on the pilots' stress level.

"It's analogous to blowing up a photograph. It's the same amount of information," he said. "I don't know that any such determination would be admissible."

First published May 1 2014, 11:14 AM


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-recordings-may-have-been-edited-experts-n94941