Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

"MH370 crash zone possibly never searched".

I don't know if this is actually new info or not, but it is a June 17, 2014 Chinese News article.

2014-06-17 14:28 XinhuaWeb Editor: Wang Fan
   
The search for the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 has not focused on the most likely crash area, according to UK satellite company Inmarsat, BBC reported on Tuesday.  [Special coverage]

The British company said the original "hot spot" was based on its hourly electronic connections between the jet and one of its spacecraft before it crashed.

Inmarsat says it gave search authorities these coordinates, but the search crews never reached this hot-spot area because they were distracted for two months by "pings" that were later found to be a dead end.

"It was by no means an unrealistic location (where they were searching), but it was further to the northeast than our area of highest probability," Chris Ashton at Inmarsat told BBC's Horizon TV program.

To determine the hot spot, Inmarsat scientists used their data to draw a series of arcs across the Indian Ocean where its systems made contact with the jet.

Through flight modeling, they found one flight path that lined up with all its data.

"We can identify a path that matches exactly with all those frequency measurements and with the timing measurements and lands on the final arc at a particular location, which then gives us a sort of a hotspot area on the final arc where we believe the most likely area is," Ashton said.

The search for MH370 has stopped while ships map the Indian Ocean floor.

MH370, carrying 239 passengers and crew, disappeared on March 8 after leaving Kuala Lumpur on a flight to Beijing.

http://www.ecns.cn/2014/06-17/119457.shtml

I heard this also and I believe they said once mapping starts they will get around to it.  But don't hold me to that.  @hoss58 we really don't know and may never know.  We all sure could use some accurate answers.

[astr0144]

As us all wanting to find out what has happened to Flight 370, after the early initial theories , suggestions as to what may have happened did not offer answers, I lost track as to what the later analysis has discovered..and as good as this thread is..I had not kept up on it as yet in detail to keep track..I had just read parts at certain times..

I managed to watch some of the Horizon TV program on Flight 370 in the UK last night, (I missed the first 20 mins)...

But from what I did see, I have now more of an understanding what has been revealed..although I would need to watch it again to really comment on it or read all this thread....watching the program seemed a easier answer and I prefer watching to reading..

From what I understand the experts analysis had found out that the aircraft flew South and that they had used a form of Satellite tracking that indicated where the plane had passed at certain stages of its flight and also experts had attempted to estimate, calculate where they believed its flight path had taken the Plane and where it may have eventually came down.

Prior to this, they had last had a report of an area where some search ship  had picked up some radar type signals suggesting that it may had been the planes signaling system ( on what they said was the last day that the batteries would last ) in a particular area that they searched but found nothing...

It said that they had not as yet searched the area where Both the experts had estimated it to have come down and where certain Satellite signals may have indicated it to be..

It said that they now have a system (via Satellite tracking) that should never allow any future aircraft to ever get lost. again..that they can track any aircraft on the planet...They had this available during Flight 370, but at the time it had not been officially brought in...

As far as I know they next intend to search the calculated estimated area...So it will be interesting to see what happens....

[deuem]

If the CIA did indeed take this plane then by now it has been stripped, shredded, melted and blast oven burned. Every single part on that plane has a serial number linking it to the plane and everyone knows this. That plane by now is gone and gone again. Nothing left larger than a grain of salt and even that must be destroyed. If they took it to their Island there would be too many mouths to keep quite. They would need another base where there is no one except them. So I don't see why they would fly it out to the middle of nowhere just to get caught later. This plane must have been put down somewhere where they could handle it.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2014/06/al-qaeda-arrests-related-malaysian-mh370-disappearance/

Amelia Earhart, Flight 19, Flying Tiger Line Flight 739... Aviation history is littered with a number of mysterious disappearances that may never be solved.However, many of us thought that in this day and age of GPS tracking, satellite imagery, and the technological ability to be in constant contact that such mysterious disappearances could not happen in the modern world. Unfortunately, Malaysian Flight MH370 has proven that theory wrong.

Ever since the Boeing 777-200ER carrying 239 people (including crew) vanished, very little has be discovered as to what happened. However, it has been reported that 11 individuals with ties to Al Qaeda have been arrested in connection with the plane's disappearance.

Yet the question remains, will these arrests shed any light on what happened to Malaysian Flight MH370 or will it be just another dead end?

On May 2nd, 11 suspected terrorists were arrested for questioning about the disappearance of Malaysian Flight MH370. The ages of the individuals span nearly three decades with the youngest being 22 and the oldest being about 55. Moreover, the individuals come from all walks of life, which include students, businesspeople, and even a young widow.

It is believed that this group is part of a new terrorist group that is planning a number of bombings throughout the Muslim world. These arrests are part of the theory that the plane's disappearance was the result of some sort of terrorist act. However, all 11 questioned denied any involvement in the MH370?s disappearance even though they admitted to "sustained terror campaigns" throughout Malaysia.


rest of the story at the above link.....they cannot verify any of this but it is plausible.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-dutch-vessel-begins-mapping-ocean-floor-in-hunt-for-mh370/1940865.html

A Dutch vessel is now mapping the sea floor in hopes of finding MH 370.

Dutch engineers this week started a months-long survey to map unchartered deep-sea terrain at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, the next step in the search for the wreck of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, a company official told Reuters.

more at the link....

[astr0144]

BBC Horizon Where is Flight MH370? BBC Full Documentary

This was the TV Horizon program that I watched the other day that explained a lot to me what was supposed to have happened ....

[astr0144]

Flight MH370: 17 conspiracy theories 100 days on from plane's disappearance

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-17-conspiracy-theories-3620032

PRC is a research & Conspiracy  forum that doe not doubt Aliens may be on or visit our Planet..but the majority of this thread does not consider ET may be involved in the Missing MH370...

According to this article many people do believe they may be responsible ?   IF they are here, who knows.. that may explain the mystery !

Missing Malaysia Flight MH370: Top 10 Conspiracy Theories

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-flight-mh370-top-10-conspiracy-theories-134340303.html#Mp3FHA7

[COSMO]

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Pilot Now Top Suspect In Missing Plane Mystery, Police Say

Police sources in Malaysia also revealed to London's Sunday Times that the home flight simulator constructed by Shah contained programs to practice flights extending a great distance over the Indian Ocean, as well as simulations of an island-landing on an excessively short runway.





http://www.inquisitr.com/1312746/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pilot/


practice flights extending a great distance over the Indian Ocean, as well as simulations of an island-landing on an excessively short runway.

Sounds about right to me!

Cosmo

[ArMaP]

practice flights extending a great distance over the Indian Ocean, as well as simulations of an island-landing on an excessively short runway.

Sounds about right to me!

To me it sounds irrelevant, anyone can get those with Microsoft's Flight Simulator, they were never specific about that simulator.

[COSMO]

To me it sounds irrelevant, anyone can get those with Microsoft's Flight Simulator, they were never specific about that simulator.

And maybe he deleted them because he was tired of them...?  There could be another reason.  I say premeditated.  There was preparation.   

Those flight simulation programs had been deleted — presumably by Shah — from his home flight simulator's computer, but investigators were able to recover them.

I have never discounted the involvement of the pilot.

Cosmo

[spacemaverick]

To me it sounds irrelevant, anyone can get those with Microsoft's Flight Simulator, they were never specific about that simulator.

The FBI doesn't even put out their finding regarding what was found on the simulator.

[astr0144]

Missing Plane Found? Nope, But Malaysia Airlines MH 370 Captain Zaharie Shah Plotted Route to Remote Indian Ocean Island on Home Simulator


Investigators have discovered that the pilot of the missing Malaysian Airlines plane plotted a route to a remote island in the southern Indian Ocean.

The search for the missing plane is now focused in the same area.

The route was deleted before MH370 vanished on March 8, 2014. It was programmed into the home flight simulator machine used by Zaharie Shah, the captain of the missing plane.

The discovery of the deleted route has fueled suspicions that Shah had something to do with the plane's disappearance, reported the Telegraph.

Although there is a distinct lack of hard evidence that Shah had sinister motives when getting on board that day, suspicion of his involvement in whatever happened has grown as investigators have gradually eliminated other potential suspects and causes of its disappearance.

Detectives raided Shah's home in Kuala Lumpur shortly after the disappearance and news had cropped up about the home simulator. Shah was a frequent user who corresponded with others in the aviation community, often discussing simulators. He helped teach others how to use them.

The movement of the missing plane indicated that something happened on board but investigators have so far been unable to piece a narrative together.

The new search area is around an unnamed island in the far southern Indian Ocean, where Shah had programmed the flight to in his simulator.

"The discovery leaves Capt Zaharie as the prime suspect in a crime which cannot yet be proven to have been committed – and Malaysian police have been careful in their public comments to stress that all leads are still being investigated and no conclusions have been reached," the Telegraph reported.

See a previous Associated Press update below.

Search for missing Malaysian plane to shift south

CANBERRA, Australia—The next phase of the underwater search for the missing Malaysian passenger jet will focus on an area of the Indian Ocean hundreds of kilometers (miles) south of the first suspected crash site, a senior investigator said Friday.

Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, said an announcement will be made next week on where a 60,000 square kilometer (23,000 square mile) search of the ocean floor for wreckage using powerful sonar equipment will be focused.

Dolan said he expected the probable crash site would be hundreds of kilometers (miles) south of where a remote-controlled underwater drone scoured 850 square kilometers (330 square miles) of seabed in the first fruitless search that ended last month. That search area was defined by acoustic signals suspected to have come from the missing plane's black boxes, which promised to be the best clue to finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. But those signals are now widely thought to have come from some other source.



In this April 1, 2014 file photo, an observer on a Japan Coast Guard Gulfstream aircraft takes photos out of a window while searching for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in Southern Indian Ocean. (AP Photo/Rob Griffith, Pool, File)

The new search area will not be based on new data, but on refined analysis of existing satellite information from the doomed Boeing 777 after it veered off course during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.

"All the trends of this analysis will move the search area south of where it was," Dolan said. "Just how much south is something that we're still working on."

"There was a very complex analysis and there were several different ways of looking at it. Specialists have used several different methodologies and bringing all of that work together to get a consensus view is what we're finalizing at the moment," he said.

Private contractors are expected to start the new search far off the west Australian coast in August using powerful side-scan sonar equipment capable of probing ocean depths of 7 kilometers (4.3 miles). The job is expected to take up to 12 months to complete.

Two survey ships are currently mapping uncharted expanses of seabed in the search zone before the sonar scanning starts.

The search area is in the vast expanse of ocean that was thoroughly swept for floating debris by search aircraft in the weeks after the plane disappeared with 239 passengers and crew aboard. No trace of plane has been found.

Dolan said the new search area will not be as far southwest of the coastal city of Perth as the initial air search had focused, near the limit of planes' range and in storm-prone seas.


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/756953-mh-370-latest-news-update-captain-zaharie-shah-plotted-route-to-remote-indian-ocean-island-on-home-simulator/

[spacemaverick]

Nice find astr0144....thanks for the update...gold for ya!

[deuem]

These guys will continue to scan empty ocean as long as the money flows. If he wanted to kill himself there were a thousand better ideas, including flying it into the court house that convicted his friend. My money is still on him taking the plane for revenge and holding the people hostage for his friend to be released. Maybe he made a mistake and crashed on landing. Now everyone will be using goggle earth to find this Island. Wow this story never ends.

[astr0144]

MH370 Breakthrough? Investigators Say Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's Wife Has Spoken for First Time About Jumbo Disaster.

Thank you Space Maverick....

Here is another shorter additional  update...of this strange mystery !

Intriguing new details about doomed flight MH370 have been revealed by the wife of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, who has reportedly broken her silence on her husband.
Two investigators claim the missing pilot's wife, Faisa Shah, revealed to them for the first time that Shah was controlling the flight when it vanished, on March 8.
New Zealand-based authors Geoff Taylor and Ewan Wilson said it resolved uncertainty about who was piloting the Boeing 777 jumbo jet, when it veered off-course en-route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
They said Faisa Shah's son had also confirmed his father was in control of the flight, meaning it was he who delivered the fateful farewell: "Good Night Malaysian 370" -- the last word heard from the doomed airliner with 339 passengers on-board.
But the Antipodean sleuths did not explain was how Shah's relatives knew this for certain.
Taylor and Wilson claimed the revelation meant Shah had to be the top of the list for investigators trying to find out what befell MH370.
Geoff Taylor told Stuff: ''In the three months-plus since the flight went down, no one in the media has been able to get close to Zaharie's widow.
''We were lucky to get confirmation from her that it was him who was at the helm. It's a breakthrough, because that was an unknown until now.
"It puts Zaharie right in the mix."
Taylor said Malaysians were reluctant to think that Shah could have had direct involvement in the mystery of what happened to MH370.
He said: "Pilots are very well respected there and they rejected the implication he could be involved. It's a much more palatable option that it could have been something mechanical.
''We went over there with an open mind. It sounds corny, but we really are pursuing the truth. It's going to be interesting to see how this book will be received.''



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mh370-breakthrough-investigators-captain-zaharie-ahmad-shahs-wife-125338595.html#iTWIkUp