Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[ArMaP]

British marine archaeologist claims to have found flight MH370 3,000 miles from the search zone after spotting debris painted in the colours of Malaysia Airlines

Many years ago I saw a TV show in which a man was saying that he could "predict" some things about the next aeroplane crash, and one of the things was the colours of the airline, but it was all based on statistics, as most airlines use the same colours.

[The Matrix Traveller]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1B47tvxX0&feature=player_detailpage

British marine archaeologist claims to have found flight MH370 3,000 miles from the search zone after spotting debris painted in the colours of Malaysia Airlines

[Fruitbat]

I'm sorry but that beard is just too large for me to find this to be a credible witness...

FB.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.dw.de/mh370-families-a-fresh-set-of-eyes-needed/a-17692952

The fate of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has been shrouded in mystery ever since the passenger jet left Kuala Lumpur for Beijing in the early morning hours of March 8 with 239 people on board. While the Boeing 777 is believed to have crashed in the southern Indian Ocean, international search efforts have so far failed to provide any clues as to what happened to the plane.

Objects spotted by radar, ships and airplanes that have turned out to be floating garbage have led to growing frustration among the victims' relatives. Some of them fear the authorities might know more than they are willing to reveal and have therefore launched the "Reward MH370" campaign on the crowdfunding website Indiegogo. The project aims to raise at least 5 million USD "to encourage a whistleblower to come forward with information," the families said in a press release.

In a DW interview, Sarah Bajc, whose partner Philip Wood was on board the flight, talks about why some of the victims' families mistrust the conclusions reached by the authorities and why they consider an insider is needed to help solve the mystery of Flight MH370.

DW: How many of the victims' relatives are participating in the "Reward MH370" campaign?

Sarah Bajc: "Reward MH370" has been organized by a team of seven people, including five family members and two independents.

The main purpose of the campaign is to raise funds to provide a reward for a whistleblower to come forward with information that leads us to find the plane. A portion of the funds will also be used to fund a private investigation firm to chase those leads.

We are confident that we will raise at least a substantial portion of our goal of 5 million USD. We do believe it is possible we could even exceed that goal. If we can, we will make the reward even larger.

Why do you think a whistleblower is needed to provide more information on the fate of the missing plane?

Over the last three months, there have been many indications that information is being withheld and/or modified prior to release to the public. That makes us confident that there are people who know more than is being shared. That may even include someone who knows exactly where the plane is, and perhaps even the details of what happened. Our hope is that someone will come forward with the information needed to find the plane. A fresh set of eyes is needed.

What evidence do you have that information is being withheld?

Besides the dozens of changed or redacted stories, there was the preliminary report itself. The cargo manifest was missing pages of information, the air traffic control audio files appear to be tampered with, and there are a significant number of factual inaccuracies in the 'Actions Taken' report. There is also the modified data release from Inmarsat and the withdrawal of the acoustic pings from consideration as leads.

What information do you hope a whistleblower will provide?

We have set parameters for submissions to include the need for concrete evidence to support the claim. Evidence may include photographs, audio clips, genuine documents, and validated eyewitness accounts. A theory based on circumstantial evidence, or on ambiguous satellite photos, would not be considered a valid lead.

It seems that you are not satisfied with the conclusions the authorities have reached so far. Why is that?

It just doesn't sound reasonable to us. If we are to accept the conclusion provided by the authorities, then we must also accept the reasonableness of the following things:

First, it is possible for a fully loaded Boeing 777 to crash in the water without a single piece of debris surfacing in the ocean, on a beach, or in fishing nets over a three-month period of time. Second, a Five Power Defense Arrangement military base at Butterworth, Malaysia either didn't see or ignored a huge unidentified object flying almost directly over its base.

Third, Australia's famous JORN over-the-horizon radar defenses were not operating on March 8. And last but not least, a mechanical failure could happen that is significant enough to knock out all communication capabilities and human intervention, yet still allow the auto-pilot to fly the airplane smoothly for many hours.

Do you have any indications of intentional misdirection on the part of the authorities?

We have no proof that the authorities are intentionally misdirecting this investigation, however, if it is not intentional misdirection, it certainly is gross incompetence. The Malaysian government is continuing to stay in control of an operation they have clearly failed at. This is an intentional decision to remain an obstacle, which is then intentional misdirection through stubborn ignorance and pride.

What it your personal feeling as to what happened to the plane?

I have too many feelings to put into words. That is why I am on a quest to find facts. Only proof will lead us to the plane and the passengers. I am fully committed to bringing Philip home, be that in celebration, or to his final resting place.
How are you and other relatives of the victims coping with this difficult situation?

We are coping with the situation by staying busy and doing what we can to continue to push for the truth. The only other option would be hopelessness and despair, but that solves nothing.

An international team is now determining an expanded search zone of up to 60,000 square kilometers. What more would you like authorities to do to help find the missing plane and passengers?

We are confident in Australia's ability to run a competent underwater search. Our challenge to the investigation, however, is that we believe they are looking in the wrong place because of failures in the early stages of the investigation.

We are hoping that the authorities will cooperate with our efforts should we find appropriate leads to pursue beyond what our investigation firm can pursue. Our call for a whistleblower to come forward aims to identify the correct place to find the plane. At that point we will of course need to get the authorities to drive that search and rescue process.

Sarah Bajc teaches economics and business studies in Beijing, China. Her partner Philip Wood was on Flight MH370 when it disappeared March 8.

[08rubicon]

    The U.S. just exchanged one prisoner for five gitmo detainees..with the
administration wanting to close gitmo..What better way to close gitmo than
to trade the 239 passingers and mh370 for the remaining gitmo detainees?
It is my contention that mh370 was hijacked and flown to a base in northern
Pakistan. I think this is what I would do if I had the trading stock.
    rubicon

[astr0144]

Certainly been some dedicated postings and some good suggestions on this thread so far.

For those in the UK at least, Horizon are doing their TV program version next week.

Where is Flight MH370?
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Not currently available on BBC iPlayer
2013-2014 Episode 11 of 12
DURATION: 1 HOUR
Horizon tells the inside story of the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. With access to the key players on the frontline in the southern Indian Ocean and the British satellite engineers who tracked the plane's final hours, Horizon breaks open the biggest mystery in aviation history.

The film reveals how MH370 disappeared in a radar blind spot; what investigators believe happened to the aircraft in its last minutes; and how the area in which it could be found is still to be searched.

Plus Horizon examines the new technologies, like black box streaming and enhanced air traffic surveillance, that mean an airliner should never vanish without trace again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047czkj

[Just Looking]

I don't think that $5 million would be enough to convince me to be a whistleblower. I am sure that IF someone does know where the aircraft is and they let it be known, their life would end very soon after.

[Just Looking]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/10156897/MH370-No-accident-say-NZ-authors

Not quite sure what to say about this article so rather than say anything I have just posted the link for anyone who wants it.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/10156897/MH370-No-accident-say-NZ-authors

Not quite sure what to say about this article so rather than say anything I have just posted the link for anyone who wants it.

Any information pertinent to MH 370 is welcome.  Many opinions and views give a more complete picture.  And by the way...welcome!

[spacemaverick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbY7HKHt9Kk&feature=player_detailpage

Aircraft disappeared off ATC screens in Europe.  Same powers  for MH 370.

[The Matrix Traveller]

The problem is "Electronics" are unreliable !

In fact "Human technology" is unreliable !

WHY ?

Lack of "knowledge", of WHAT we are actually Experiencing, and WHY !

The truth is; In spite of all our "beliefs" and excuses, the human species doesn't even know where they actually are,
let alone understanding anything else !   


Time to investigate more about our "Real Selves" and the species we experience this environment through !

[Somamech]

Here's a funny video from the Sea Shepard regarding their Galapagos effort's and their AIS system they are setting up around that area. 

Funnily enough on a shoe string budget they can find pretty much anything they want to find.  MH370 didn't land in the galapogos thats for sure LOL

[spacemaverick]

Somamech, I really enjoyed that.  What I see here is a people that have a passion or a drive so to speak to take care of where they live.  They have put feet to that passion and told themselves that if they wanted to get things done that they would step in and get it done themselves.  As is noticed in the video they did not have support of judges at the time.  I saw the monitoring system they put up for the islands and the coverage was almost 100%.  They didn't have to go extravagant to get the job done either.  They will know what goes on around them.  In this thread I have noticed different people coming up with less complex therefore less expensive solutions to marking and finding where aircraft might go down.  Makes you wonder why the have not been used.

The technology is there, the common sense rest with people who want to use it but the people with the power to implement the solutions will not get off their seat of do nothing and implement some of the solutions.  Why?

I bet the thinkers here on Pegasus could come up with some simple and not very expensive solutions to tracking aircraft, ways to power black boxes where they wouldn't go dead in 30 days, ability to extend the range of those boxes, even eject those boxes automatically from the aircraft with flotation devices on them, dye marker for the aircraft going down, and so on.  Of course you will have the airlines still say that it is still the safest way to travel and so on.  I guess they do put a price of less value on human life.

Your point of their complete coverage is well taken as well as giving me another issue to research.  Thanks and gold for ya friend.

[rdunk]

"MH370 crash zone possibly never searched".

I don't know if this is actually new info or not, but it is a June 17, 2014 Chinese News article.

2014-06-17 14:28 XinhuaWeb Editor: Wang Fan
   
The search for the missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 has not focused on the most likely crash area, according to UK satellite company Inmarsat, BBC reported on Tuesday.  [Special coverage]

The British company said the original "hot spot" was based on its hourly electronic connections between the jet and one of its spacecraft before it crashed.

Inmarsat says it gave search authorities these coordinates, but the search crews never reached this hot-spot area because they were distracted for two months by "pings" that were later found to be a dead end.

"It was by no means an unrealistic location (where they were searching), but it was further to the northeast than our area of highest probability," Chris Ashton at Inmarsat told BBC's Horizon TV program.

To determine the hot spot, Inmarsat scientists used their data to draw a series of arcs across the Indian Ocean where its systems made contact with the jet.

Through flight modeling, they found one flight path that lined up with all its data.

"We can identify a path that matches exactly with all those frequency measurements and with the timing measurements and lands on the final arc at a particular location, which then gives us a sort of a hotspot area on the final arc where we believe the most likely area is," Ashton said.

The search for MH370 has stopped while ships map the Indian Ocean floor.

MH370, carrying 239 passengers and crew, disappeared on March 8 after leaving Kuala Lumpur on a flight to Beijing.

http://www.ecns.cn/2014/06-17/119457.shtml

[hoss58]

I know this info has been discussed before but I was struck by one thing in this video . It said that because the airliner flew for so long after last radar contact indicates that the "elites " must be involved . As they are they only ones who had the ability to hide the plane for that length of time  , also I think it would take their involvement to cover up things  and misdirect the search effort.

I hope I quoted that right ...