Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[Fruitbat]

1. I can't see the video in my country (So much for the "special relationship"!) Was there anything new in it that we haven't read in this thread already?

2.  I read  somewhere that this aeroplane already had 4, yes 4! auto jettisoning SAR radio beacons, which were supposed to be deployed in a "water landing". If they didn't work, (presumably it didn't do a water landing, because aeroplane stuff is pretty reliable, and four failures is just too improbable IMHO) then why would the dye be more likely to?

3. Someone has to ask the question. Is it anatomically possible to get an iphone to fit up your jacksie without a lot of "stretching excercises" or lubricant? And even if it is, would it be realistically possible to retrieve it afterwards without, er, tools? I have to ask, because a few years back I got to laugh like a drain at an unfortunate friend recounting an experience involving his girlfriend de-jour, a thing designed for the purpose that went by the description of "butt-plug", and a trip to the "accident and emergency department" to have the the thing retrieved professionally... If they couldn't get that "designed for the job" item to work under presumably optimum conditions are we really supposed to believe that Iphone-in-butt-in-diego-garcia story?

FB.

[The Seeker]

fruit bat, if you read that again, didn't say up his butt, more implied to be between the cheeks...

[ArMaP]

3. Someone has to ask the question. Is it anatomically possible to get an iphone to fit up your jacksie without a lot of "stretching excercises" or lubricant?

They probably have an app for that.

[The Matrix Traveller]

There is Still NO evidence the aircraft went Down !

The aircraft and its occupants are Still missing ....


So we still need to know WHAT happened to them ?

The rest of the "theories" are a waste of time.


What is needed, is full video surveillance on all aircraft, sent to a data base full time, so we know
what is visually taking place on any aircraft at any time.

The records can be removed a moth after each successful flight.


We are all being watched much of the time anyway, by a number of different surveillance systems right now.

It's just a modern method of policing.


Usually no one is interested in what we do anyway, contrary to most peoples thoughts, unless one
is a threat to other individuals or national security.


Personally I agree with Security Surveillance of human behaviour.

Yes I know such information can be abused, but so can anything in this world, of human experience.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/usatoday/article/10050933

BEIJING - Relatives of passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are launching a crowd-funding campaign to raise a $3 million reward for a whistle-blower to expose key information about the vanished jetliner, the partner of a missing passenger told USA TODAY.


See more at the link....story is copyrighted...

[The Matrix Traveller]

BEIJING - Relatives of passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are launching a crowd-funding
campaign to raise a $3 million reward for a whistle-blower to expose key information about
the vanished jetliner, the partner of a missing passenger told USA TODAY.

Someone sooner or later will no doubt hold their hand out, for that $3 million,    but I think ones Life,
is worth a little more than $3 million.

It depends on how much the "whistle blower" upsets those who wish to keep the knowledge from the public,
and Insurance Companies.   

[Ellirium113]

Close to three months after the Malaysian jetliner disappeared, the government released reams of raw satellite data it used to determine that the flight ended in the southern Indian Ocean, a step long demanded by the families of some of the passengers on board.

But while the 45 pages of information may help satisfy a desire for more transparency in a much criticized investigation, experts say it's unlikely to solve the mystery of Flight 370 - or give much comfort to relatives stuck between grieving and the faintest hope, no matter how unlikely, their loved ones might still be alive.

"It's a whole lot of stuff that is not very important to know," said Michael Exner, a satellite engineer who has been independently researching the calculations. "There are probably two or three pages of important stuff, the rest is just noise. It doesn't add any value to our understanding."

He and others said the needed assumptions, algorithms and metadata to validate the investigators' conclusion were not there.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/10090185/MH370-search-Government-releases-data

On May 18, former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad accused the CIA and Boeing of deliberately hiding vital information about missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.

In his personal blog, the ex-PM claimed that the CIA seized control of the Boeing 777 jet after takeoff, pointing out that these days an aircraft could be remotely controlled by certain government agencies, such as the CIA, which then staged a fruitless rescue operation.

"It is a waste of time and money to look for debris or oil slicks or to listen for pings from the black box," Mohamad said, as quoted by Australia's Sydney Morning Herald.

"The plane is somewhere, maybe without MAS (Malaysia Airlines) markings," wrote Mohamad on his blog.
"Someone is hiding something," he added. "It is not fair that MAS and Malaysia should take the blame."

http://rt.com/news/161624-missing-malaysian-boeing-data/

Wait...what???  Someone is not towing the line. 

Even the Russians and Chinese know where the plane of flight MH370 went.

Of course their silence is for one of the following two reasons:

1. In the event that Russia and China know the location and what went down on March 8 speaking up about the truth would be perceived by the U.S. and its allies as a declaration of war by Russia and/or China;

2. In the event that Russia and China know the location and what went down on March 8 yet opt to keep "radio silence" would suggest that they too are involved in what I have been figuring out for a few weeks now, although I cannot provide hard proof, that the MH370 event was an exercise not only for the military and world government but also for the public to measure how well the public can be deployed in military operations for certain objectives. Gradually involving the public in such operations will in time result in the public's deployment in offensive objectives such as assisting in actual combat be it over the internet.

http://truthnewsinternational.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/flight-mh370-even-the-russians-and-chinese-know-where-the-plane-went/

Yeah...China knows but won't say anything? That (to me) is almost an instant rule out of any sort of accident if there is any truth to it.

[spacemaverick]

As the story continues...

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/nz-man-loses-contract-after-mh370-email-5994731

The NZ man who spotted what may have been the burning missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 off the coast of Vietnam was sacked from his position on an oil rig after reporting the incident.

Mike McKay was working on the Songa Mercur oil rig off the Vietnamese coast in March when the Boeing 777 jet with 239 passengers and crew went missing.

McKay sent an email to his employers after he saw what he believed to be a burning plane, which was leaked to the media.

Following the publication of his email, name and place of work, the rig operator, Idemitsu, and McKay's contractor and rig owner, Songa Offshore, were inundated with inquiries that blocked their communications, McKay said.

"This became intolerable for them and I was removed from the rig and not invited back."

McKay said he was paid up until the end of his hitch, or work period, but released from the rig five days early.

The subcontractor that he was working under, M-I Swaco, said McKay was being released early as it had a local-salary engineer to take his place, he said. "Contracts meant little in the oil field," McKay said. "The oil patch is a rough, unforgiving game."

The drilling fluids consultant has worked mostly in Southeast Asia for the past 35 years and in Vietnam waters almost continuously since 2008. He is now back in New Zealand and is waiting for a new contract.

McKay saw what he believed to be a burning plane at high altitude, which appeared to be in one piece. "I believe I saw the Malaysian Airlines plane come down. The timing is right."

In his email he described his exact location on the oil rig, the compass bearing of where the plane was in relation to the rig, the approximate distance of the plane from the rig, the surface current and wind direction. The plane was off the normal flight path, he said, explaining he knew that because "we see the contrails every day".

He signed off the email with "good luck" followed by his full name and New Zealand passport number.

Vietnamese officials interviewed McKay in Vung Tau and were going to act on his sighting but the search moved to the Andaman Sea two days after the interview, McKay said. But neither the Malaysian nor Australian search teams had been in touch, he said.
McKay also made a statement to New Zealand Police for Interpol on his return home.

Last week another person, a woman sailing between India and Thailand in early March, came forward and told Australian authorities she may have seen the missing airliner on fire on the same day as McKay, but in a different location. Katherine Tee, 41, was on night watch on the deck of her yacht in early March when she claims she saw a plane surrounded by bright orange lights and with a tail of black smoke pass above her.

She only recently reported her sighting to the Joint Agency Co-ordination Centre in Australia because she said she and her husband were not talking and she did not think anyone else would believe her.

McKay said his sighting was over the South China Sea, which would place it around 2000 kilometres away from Tee's sighting. He was unsure if MH370 could have flown that far: "How far can a burning aeroplane fly?"

The ongoing search for the missing airliner raised a lot of unanswered questions, he said. "The investigators do not inspire trust."

That statement certainly rings true.  I wonder of we are more sure of our technology and brains than we should be.  Was the search performed by incompetent people?  Sure has me wondering.  Much like 9/11...were our government or military leaders at that time just incompetent?

[spacemaverick]

There is Still NO evidence the aircraft went Down !

The aircraft and its occupants are Still missing ....


So we still need to know WHAT happened to them ?

The rest of the "theories" are a waste of time.


What is needed, is full video surveillance on all aircraft, sent to a data base full time, so we know
what is visually taking place on any aircraft at any time.

The records can be removed a moth after each successful flight.


We are all being watched much of the time anyway, by a number of different surveillance systems right now.

It's just a modern method of policing.


Usually no one is interested in what we do anyway, contrary to most peoples thoughts, unless one
is a threat to other individuals or national security.


Personally I agree with Security Surveillance of human behaviour.

Yes I know such information can be abused, but so can anything in this world, of human experience.

I am in agreement with video surveillance of aircraft both on the ground and in the air along with other safe guards and options for aircraft.  You don't have to be an engineer to figure out some simple but workable solutions to tracking and even marking an aircraft that has gone down in the ocean (if it did indeed go down).  Sometimes the best options are the simple ones.  Black boxes can be powered by something other than what they are powered with right now.  A large die pack can be used to mark an area in the ocean where a plane may go down.  If a fire happens on board, a sensor can send an automatic signal to a system alarm that transmits an automatic mayday.  We have systems for buildings that automatically notify authorities of things like this on the ground.  Make it so that the transponder cannot be turned off.  Should I go on?  I look at airport security and wonder how they get it so wrong...or is it the money they don't want to spend.  Follow the money trail where it is spent and you may run into more questions...Just like 9/11...follow the money....

[zorgon]

Plane or ship sinks at sea... a simple floatation device can be auto released to float to surface with a beacon. Any high scholl kid can make one

Survieilance of People

Come to Vegas Cameras everywhere. 99% of the time they do good. You don't even really notice them but they are on every street light and every official building and every casino by the thousands

If your not a crook or terrorist you never see any results

What most people forget is very few staff actually WATCH the cameras  Most are recorded and only pulled up when something happens  and most are erased after two weeks anyway

[spacemaverick]

They probably have an app for that.

A little humor there? heheheh

[spacemaverick]

Plane or ship sinks at sea... a simple floatation device can be auto released to float to surface with a beacon. Any high scholl kid can make one

Survieilance of People

Come to Vegas Cameras everywhere. 99% of the time they do good. You don't even really notice them but they are on every street light and every official building and every casino by the thousands

If your not a crook or terrorist you never see any results

What most people forget is very few staff actually WATCH the cameras  Most are recorded and only pulled up when something happens  and most are erased after two weeks anyway

You're right Z...We have become technically advanced and so often the simple things can work better and are cheaper in the long run.....

[spacemaverick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjTPJgAGaU&feature=player_detailpage

Apparently, the NSA has material on the MH370 disappearance which has been classified as a matter "to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign relations...."

[spacemaverick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FeiqZz0oVo&feature=player_detailpage

According to a top space scientist, a pillar of smoke was spotted coming from a remote valley in Kyrgyzstan the morning that MH370 could have crashed, yet no one has investigated.

[spacemaverick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky1B47tvxX0&feature=player_detailpage

British marine archaeologist claims to have found flight MH370 3,000 miles from the search zone after spotting debris painted in the colours of Malaysia Airlines