Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[sky otter]

hey thor..can you spare a link to that.. it's a little hard to read as is

thanks

[ArMaP]

hey thor..can you spare a link to that.. it's a little hard to read as is

Just click the image or click here.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10716866/Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-Finger-of-suspicion-points-at-pilots-as-Chinese-satellite-spots-debris.html


Malaysia Airlines MH370: Finger of suspicion points at pilots as Chinese satellite spots 'debris'

Data analysis rules out fire damage and intervention from passenger on vanished plane

Two weeks after the plane vanished, investigators have largely ruled out the possibility that the Malaysia Airlines flight might have suffered a fire that knocked out all communication systems and killed the pilots. The plane would then have had to fly on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and before any Mayday message could be sent.

1.  They haven't checked out that "plane in the water" comment from one lady.

2.  Backtrack from debris sighting before and now this one...match to currents...come up with other possible search areas from that.  I know they have satellites that can track currents...then use some mathematics to calculate a probable start point.

[spacemaverick]

One thing that seems to have slipped the minds of many are the family of the pilot who moved out of the home the day before he took the flight and the Fiance' of the copilot.  Have they been questioned?  Where is the pilots family?  If the investigation is now focusing on the flight deck crew the first order of business should be questions for the family.  Secondly, questions for co-workers close to them and others and then friends in that order.

[COSMO]

Lt. Gen. McInerney Says #MH370 Is In Pakistan – 'I Got A Source That Confirmed It Yesterday'


"LIGNET put out a report, substantiated yesterday, that there sources got their information from Boeing sources, which is covert. Not that they got their information from the Boeing Company because they're involved in the investigation, that the airplane was in Pakistan. That was confirmed by LIGNET on Monday and I got another source at LIGNET that confirmed it yesterday... I do believe that those people in Pakistan, in the ISI, those people who knew where Osama Bin Laden was and didn't tell us. I believe those same elements could be involved with getting that airplane into a Pakistan air force base."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/breaking-lt-gen-mcinerney-says-mh370-in-pakistan-i-got-a-source-at-lignet-that-confirmed-it-yesterday-video/

The pilot was probably a Muslim fanatic and made a deal to deliver the plane.  That is the first, and most obvious link.  It is also obvious that the pilot disabled the transponder and made the course change.  "those people who knew where Bin Laden was"...yes those people....and he mentions a MILITARY base in Pakistan.

Pakistan...I'm sticking with that one...

Cosmo

[deuem]

Yes this seems to be a good case. If he did drop down and pop up with a new number then he could have flown all the way in the clear. I did try and chase this idea down but could not get into flight tracker history. I want to see if there is an un-accounted flight going this way at that time. Like a chartered flight. Just change the transponder number and all looks well again. Like a new plane flying on the right flight plan. So I am also sticking with my own idea.
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[Eighthman]

Has anyone else gone public with this Pakistan opinion?  Or is it one General who may be pushing for war with a nuke-armed Muslim nation?

Getting to Pakistan would involve an outright conspiracy by their government and military - that potentially puts them into enmity with China, the US or Israel (depending on what's done with the plane). I don't see how broke, ignorant Taliban types pull this off - as well as the pilots finding a runway in the middle of nowhere.  The simulator evidence suggests they were practicing for standard well-known landings.

Take a good hard look at the headlines on Drudge today for a clue.  Michelle Obama is visiting China and making wonderful speeches about freedom while it's announced that the NSA is spying on Huawei servers !!!

Coincidence?  Nothing in politics happens by coincidence (FDR) Either this flight ended in an accident or it concerns China.

[sky otter]

cosmo is stuck on that location 

as far as reports.. i would question everything ..especially where opinion is the major ingredient
when someone says  The pilot was probably a Muslim fanatic
that was probably kinda tosses a big fat red flag

and they were intervieing the friends and family and doing background stuff on everyone on the plane..but i haven't seen any follow up as to what they found except they said it was all good...
another red flag..and then i found the article below..

the part i beleve on all these articles is.. they were written to fill space..the info  is questionable..

but hey..mine is  just another opinion

ok.. found this in time to modify my post..now   they are saying  something..but is it worth the print...anyone's guess?
even if they find bodies in the water..i don't think we will ever know for sure what happened..
we will only know what THEY tell us...bullpoop




Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:59
MH370 TERROR LINK? 'MYSTERY WOMAN' called pilot from mobile phone bought with FAKE ID
Written by Simon Parry


THE captain of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 received a two-minute call shortly before takeoff from a mystery woman using a mobile phone number obtained under a false identity.

It was one of the last calls made to or from the mobile of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah in the hours before his Boeing 777 left Kuala Lumpur 16 days ago.

Investigators are treating it as potentially significant because anyone buying a pay-as-you-go SIM card in Malaysia has to fill out a form giving their identity card or passport number.


CCTV footage captures Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, pilot of the Boeing 777 flight, being frisked while walking through security at Kuala Lumpar International Airport. Source: YouTube

Introduced as an anti-terrorism measure following 9/11, this ensures that every number is registered to a traceable person.

But in this case police traced the number to a shop selling SIM cards in Kuala Lumpur. They found that it had been bought 'very recently' by someone who gave a woman's name — but was using a false identity.

many pictures of the pilot and his family and others at the link


The discovery raises fears of a possible link between Captain Zaharie, 53, and terror groups whose members routinely use untraceable SIM cards. Everyone else who spoke to the pilot on his phone in the hours before the flight took off has already been interviewed.

Investigators to question pilot's wife

In a separate development, The Mail on Sunday has learned that investigators are now poised to question Captain Shah's estranged wife in detail.

They have waited two weeks out of respect, but will now begin formally interviewing Faizah Khan following pressure from FBI agents assisting the inquiry.

Although the couple — who have three children — were separated, they had been living under the same roof. A source said: 'Faizah has been spoken to gently by officers but she has not been questioned in detail to establish her husband's behaviour and state of mind in the days leading to the incident.


This is partly for cultural reasons. It is not considered appropriate in Malaysia to subject people in situations of terrible bereavement to the stress of intensive questioning."

The softly-softly approach has been challenged by the team of FBI agents working with Malaysian police. They have pointed out that she may hold 'vital clues and information' to Zaharie's mental state.

"The whole world is looking for this missing plane and the person who arguably knows most about the state of mind of the man who captained the plane is being left alone," said a source close to the FBI team.


The source added: "If we want to eliminate the chief pilot from the inquiry, we must interview her in detail to find out what his state of mind was." The mystery caller emerged when Malaysian investigators examined the phone records of both Zaharie and his copilot, 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid. Investigators were keen to trace the caller and interview them, although they have stressed that the fact the SIM card was registered to a non-existent ID card does not necessarily indicate a criminal or terrorist connection.

Political activists in Malaysia sometimes use SIM cards bought with bogus identity cards if they fear that their phones may be bugged by the country's authoritarian ruling party.


Zaharie is an avid supporter of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, a distant relative, and may have attended a controversial court hearing where Anwar was jailed for five years. It took place only a few hours before the flight. The timing of the call has intensified scrutiny on Zaharie as investigators struggle to establish whether the cockpit crew, a catastrophic accident or hijackers are to blame for Flight MH370's disappearance.


Meanwhile FBI experts in the US are continuing to examine the hard drive of a flight simulator seized from Zaharie's home after it emerged that programs he used on it had been deleted. Zaharie used the home flight simulator to practise extreme landings, including on remote Indian Ocean islands such as the US air base in Diego Garcia, investigators have revealed.

The hard drive was flown to the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, at the end of last week after Malaysian investigators failed to retrieve the deleted files, which they suspect may have been 'buried' in an elaborate process to cover the user's tracks.



The delay in handing the computer hard drive to the FBI has proved to be a source of friction between the Malaysian and US investigators, the source close to the FBI said, adding: 'We have the technology to do this work quickly and effectively and they simply don't.' Malaysia's acting transport minister Hishammuddin Hussein yesterday said investigators are coming under increasing pressure as they are aware that time is running out — the black box voice and data recorder only transmits an electronic signal for about 30 days before its battery runs out. But he claimed a thorough investigation of the plane's cargo manifest had not shown "any link to anything that may have contribution to the plane's disappearance". - news.com.au

Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=249022:mh370-captain-zaharie-received-call-from-mystery-woman'-using-fake-id-before-flight-takeoff&Itemid=2#ixzz2woXqlUk5
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opps..my bad..they have already said the above info is bogus...


Sunday, 23 March 2014 18:27 M'sian cops deny 'mystery woman' called Capt Zaharie report


Malaysian police tonight denied that a mystery phone call was made to Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, the pilot of the missing plane.

It was reported earlier that a mystery woman called the captain before take-off, raising fears about his motives.

The Mail Online reported that the captain's phone records revealed he took a two-minute phone call from a woman using a mobile phone number obtained under a false identity.

But Assistant Commissioner Datin Asmawati Ahmad dismissed the report as "mere speculations".

"Please be advised that the Royal Malaysia Police take no responsibility over the dissemination of such information which originates from unnamed and unverified sources. The news in the tabloid are mere speculations," Asst Comm Ahmad said in a statement.

"We would like to draw your kind attention to the fact that the news was picked up from a foreign tabloid which has no exclusive rights to the details of our investigations.

"Secondly the IGP has never issued any public statement that categorically places the MH370 investigation under an act of terrorism." - news corp australia



Full article: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=249042:msian-cops-deny-mystery-woman-called-capt-zaharie-report&Itemid=2#ixzz2woayQcDs
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yep..hard to believe anything written so far.

[spacemaverick]

Sky that was good digging.  At this point everything is suspect.  Now authorities say that it is bogus information.  I am just going to take a wild guess and say one of three scenarios happened and I could be wrong on either one or all three.  20 years of experience and law enforcement, we worked on evidence.  We always would come up with theories based on what we had as evidence.  In this case we have circumstances but no solid evidence.  We have the fact that the pilot was a heavy supporter of an opposition leader in his own country.  We have the fact that the airliner did turn around from its original course.  We have the fact that data received from the aircraft that the transponder was manually turned off.  (I am not an electronics guy so I can only go and on what told).  Eyewitness accounts from several people indicate some sort of aircraft over flew the Andaman Islands. (Normally eyewitness accounts are not totally reliable but in this case the several people had similar stories)(This can't be proven to be 370).  The simulator found in his home and the evidence found on it regarding his practice runs to certain places are suspect.  Given the pilots background naturally in the absence of incontrovertible evidence...suspicion will fall on the pilot.

This is a circumstantial case at best and with that being said I propose these possible scenarios:

1.  Pilot took control of the aircraft and diverted it to take it out over a remote part of the ocean and drove it into the sea as a Martyr taking with him 238 other souls on board.

2.  Pilot took control of aircraft and flew it to some remote location with some of his passengers being worth something to someone who wanted the 20 people working on the stealth technology.  Also remember the one person that was a steward in the cabin crew that simulator training and a home built simulator in his home.

3.  Pilot took control of aircraft to use it as a flying bomb against strategic base Diego Garcia and the US had to protect itself and down the aircraft.

Mostly circumstantial.......no physical evidence.....

The one common deal here are all those Chinese people on board and if any of these scenarios are in fact true and proven could put whoever did this deed in a bad position with the Chinese government.  Imagine the repercussions from such an act.

Now if we had some parts from the plane or the black boxes then we could verify what transpired if we were indeed given the truth from that.  (Remember TWA 800...we were not really given the truth there..my opinion).  So what do you all think based on what the current facts are?

[thorfourwinds]

hey thor..can you spare a link to that.. it's a little hard to read as is

thanks

Sure 'nuf...it's a clickable graphic to the original...

As most of my graphics in our posts are...cookies may appear on those links,
so please investigate if you are truly interested in the Truth   

After all, they're not there for eye candy, well, at least not all of the time.   






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[COSMO]

cosmo is stuck on that location 

as far as reports.. i would question everything ..especially where opinion is the major ingredient
when someone says  The pilot was probably a Muslim fanatic
that was probably kinda tosses a big fat red flag


Yep, sticking to Pakistan. 

Fanatical may fit...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581817/Doomed-airliner-pilot-political-fanatic-Hours-taking-control-flight-MH370-attended-trial-jailed-opposition-leader-sodomite.html

'Democracy is dead': 'Fanatical' missing airliner pilot pictured wearing political slogan T-shirt

Investigators speak of his 'obsessive' support for opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim
Police officers fear Ibrahim being jailed could have left Shah profoundly upset

http://patdollard.com/2014/03/explosive-revelations-mh370-pilot-was-political-fanatic-who-watched-his-muslim-brotherhood-hero-jailed-for-life-5-hours-before-takeoff/

EXPLOSIVE REVELATIONS: #MH370 Pilot Was Political Fanatic Who Eyewitnessed His Muslim Brotherhood Hero Jailed For Sodomy Hours Before Flight

In the pilot you have motive and the skills.

Cosmo

[The Matrix Traveller]

Looks like Malaysian Airline Co. or Malaysian Gov. is still trying to hide Embarrassment with "delay tactics" .....

Silly really ... because all will come to light sooner or later ...

All involves "Security"; Staff and User "Auditing" Systems !

[sky otter]

Maden

Straits of Malacca

[deuem]

I'm thinking more like Cosmo. If he wanted to just kill everyone he could have driven the plane into the court building where his friend was charged. That would have been a statement. Fly it off to never, never land. The 2 don't go together very well. This plane was taken and I still think it is on the ground up North and this is what is being hidden from us. The lack of most Navy ships being sent to the search area confirms my thoughts. Ok so they send in a few planes to make the search look good. And they divert a car carrier, Oh boy, how exciting is that one,

Behind the scenes they are working with reality. It all sounds like more of a trap to get China in on the war of terror. In the Chinese news there was a letter sent to the news agency claiming the Hijack. Saying you kill one, we kill 100. They want to be free from Mom. And what is Obamas wife doing here? Did he ship her here to hand a note over? i think they know exactly where the plane is and why.

I see no reason at all for the pilot to do all of those moves and long distance flying just to dump it in the ocean. Sorry, that does not add up. That plane went somewhere under a new number and is on the ground. That would be a protest. The plane once it changed dirrection fly to known way points. What hijacker would do that? They would just fly dirrect and clear the sky in front of them.

If there was no cargo worth stealing then it was the passengers they were after and the plane. If the cargo was a gold shipment to China then there it is. Reason enough. China has been buying Gold at a mad rate and it could have slipped this in under the code name of Mangosteens. Nice golden fruit.
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[zorgon]

cosmo is stuck on that location 
Yep, sticking to Pakistan. 

I found it !!!