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Started by spacemaverick, March 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

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And then there's this from our friend Jim Stone:

Conspiracy Planet - Killer Spooks - Flight 370: All Eyes On Diego Garcia


Flight 370: All Eyes On Diego Garcia

by JIM STONE


March 17, 2014) UPDATE:

The prevailing lie now is that the pilots hijacked the plane themselves.

QUESTION: Why won't the NSA tell us where the cell phones are then, and HOW can pilots change the skin of the plane to a stealth version to make it vanish from ACTIVE radar while in flight? Really weak theory that one is.

UPDATE: Five thousand feet? Yeah, five thousand feet of lies.

The engines reported to Boeing via satellite that the plane remained flying at cruising altitude, not 5,000 feet, for at least five additional hours. The air density hitting the engines is an accurate indicator of altitude and if Boeing changed their story, they got bought.

At 5,000 feet fuel economy is so greatly reduced that the plane could not have stayed aloft for five additional hours. The low altitude radar evasion story is an easily proven fake just from the fact that a jumbo jet can't fly long at low altitude because air friction eats all the fuel.


There are numerous alternative theories now, all being pushed by either mainstream media or "mainstream alternative media" and all have major problems.

Diego Garcia remains by far the most highly probable location for flight 370. There are three big reasons why flight 370 most likely ended up there, and a few smaller ones.

The first big reason is because the Malaysian military plotted flight 370 on radar as it turned around and flew for a full hour in the direction of Diego Garcia until it disappeared from their military radars far sooner than it should have absent jamming. All the terrain mapping and flying at 5,000 feet stories are bold faced lies, the last radar blip from this plane happened at 29,500 feet and at that altitude it disappeared from military radars after previously vanishing from civilian radars at 36,000 feet.

The terrain mapping stories which are being hatched by either think tanks, liars with a motive or total idiots do not hold water. If this plane was vanished while at altitude there is absolutely nothing to support the low altitude radar evasion stories other than fantasies of having Iran be blamed for what was obviously done by the U.S. air force.

This plane not only vanished while in clear sight of civilian radars, it vanished a second time while in full sight of military radars, the plane remained within range of military radars for at least a full 300 miles after it vanished from them, simply calculating the curvature of the earth proves it and only a phase cancelling electronic warfare platform could have done that.

The second big reason for Diego Garcia to be the destination is the simple fact that it is out in the middle of nowhere and therefore taking the risk of spoofing other nation's radars would not be necessary after vanishing from Malaysia.



Diego Garcia is so isolated that it would be the equivalent of running into a 5,000 acre corn field to play hide and seek. If you have ever been into even a small corn field, you know what I mean by this. Diego Garcia is so prime for a plane kidnapping that if this obviously kidnapped plane was flown anywhere else, the people in charge of that mission should be court martialed.

The third big reason to take this plane to Diego Garcia is because there is a huge U.S. military base there and the Chinese military engineers could be quickly debriefed and re-flown out.


Neither they or this 777 are likely to be there now, though some of the other passengers were probably drugged and will be forced to work KP for the rest of their lives in their now permanent new tropical paradise with only concrete visible home.

Imagine what they would have to say on liberation day if Russia takes the place without killing them as collateral damage. Then again, they may not be there because any old abandoned mall or grain elevator will make a great CIA prison.

Smaller reasons to point the finger at Diego Garcia is the fact that as far as the MSM goes, the place is not on the map. Cute. Small world, eh?

The obviously faked 'Iranian hijacker' photos also do not bode well for alternative explanations, and probably more importantly, the fact that the Malaysian military backed down (WHY??) on saying they tracked it West, only to once again later say they did, only to have this get followed up by more B.S. about a Malaysian airline hijacking plot compliments of the Banker whipping post of Islam all the while the obvious is ignored.

HOW DID IT VANISH FROM ALL ACTIVE RADARS THAT NEED NO TRANSPONDER TO SEE PLANES WHILE THE MISSING PLANE WAS AT OR NEAR FULL CRUISING ALTITUDE, why is the MSM avoiding the key question like the plague?

ANSWER: Because only one nation on earth has both the technology to remote hijack and vanish a plane from radar, and only ONE NATION on earth also has the ability to keep the NSA's mouth shut about where all the passenger's cell phones popped up.

When all the cards are on the table, there are only two that tell the story, the fact that the plane completely vanished from the radio spectrum while at altitude, and the fact that the NSA totally shut up about where the passenger cell phones, no doubt at least 200 of them, went.

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: Jim Stone Freelance http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

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Some observations here:  First, the General's comments about Pakistan are important because they expose the military-industrial complex's eagerness and willingness to lie to 'set up' other nations for yet more war. Shameful but apparently true. 

I have liked the Diego Garcia idea from the beginning but we must be cognizant of what it would mean if it is really true.  If true, then there was something or someone aboard that plane that they were desperate to seize.  Also, it would mean that conditions in the world behind the headlines are FAR more radical than what appears.  Stealing this plane would be an act of war against China and Malaysia.  If exposed, it would be enormously damaging.  So, if we pursue this hypothesis, what are they so desperate about?

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Diego Garcia "Camp Justice" 7º20'S 72º25'E

Diego Garcia is a British territory mostly populated by the US military, the British colony that's been colonised by the Americans. Normally the island is home to about 1,700 military personnel and 1,500 civilian contractors. But only about 50 troops are British. The island is used jointly by the Navy and the Air Force. Though the Navy contingent is larger, the Air Force does the flying.

Diego Garcia is a narrow tropical jungle reef in the Indian Ocean, about 1,000 miles south of the southern India coast. Despite the tropical feel to the reef, this is no Margaritaville. It's more of a stationary aircraft carrier. Diego Garcia is exclusively a military reservation located on a small host country atoll in the Chagos Archipelago.

A tropical footprint-shaped island just 7 degrees south of the equator, Diego Garcia is heavily vegetated. The island covers 6,720 acres in area with a maximum height of 22 feet and an average elevation of four feet above sea level. The shoreline is about 40 miles long and the island encloses a lagoon 6.5 miles wide and 13 miles long.


Diego Garcia History
Diego Garcia was discovered by Portuguese explorers in the early 1500s. It is the largest of fifty-two islands which form the Chagos Archipelago, located in the heart of the Indian Ocean. The island's name is believed to have come from either the ship's captain or the navigator on that early voyage of discovery.

In 1965, with the formation of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT), Diego Garcia was under the administrative control of the British government of the Seychelles. In 1976, the Seychelles gained independence from England and the BIOT became a self-administering territory under the East African Desk of the British Foreign Office. The Crown's representative on island, the British Representative (BRITREP), acts as both Justice of the Peace and Commanding Officer of the Royal Naval Party 1002.

In the 1960's, America's naval policy in the Indian Ocean had many ingredients. The foremost was to deter Russia from interrupting the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf countries to America and Europe. Politically, this entailed American support of Iran to counter Russian influence in Iraq. It entailed maintaining a naval presence in the Persian Gulf, and wherever possible, in the countries on the rim of the Indian Ocean, not only to secure the sea lines of communication which criss-crossed the Indian Ocean but also to inject military force from seaward when required. By 1968, the American Navy had effected the necessary adjustments in its global naval deployments.

In 1968, Britain announced its intention to withdraw from East of Suez by 1971 and generated debate on "the Vacuum in the Indian Ocean". Russia's naval presence in the Indian Ocean increased to keep pace with the American naval presence.

America felt that Russia was articulating anxiety to forestall American naval deployment. The Russians on the other hand, felt that the establishing of communication facilities in Diego Garcia and in Northwest Cape in Australia could be interpreted clearly as reflecting an intention to deploy submarines in the Indian Ocean whose ballistic missiles were targeted on Russia.

Fears of a naval vacuum in the Indian Ocean were soon overtaken by fears of the militarisation of the Indian Ocean. America neither denied nor acknowledged the deployment of submarine launched ballistic missiles. The Russian Navy started showing its flag in the Indian Ocean, partly to fill the naval vacuum, partly to counter the American Navy and partly to demonstrate to the littoral states that the Russian Navy was a force to contend with. Since Russia lacked naval bases in the Indian Ocean, an anchorage was developed off Socotra near the Gulf of Aden. Overall, there was a steady increase in the presence of American and Russian naval ships.

In 1969, American President Nixon's "Twin Pillar" strategy entrusted the security of the Persian Gulf region to the monarchies in Iran and Saudi Arabia. America started heavily arming both countries under the Nixon Doctrine. In 1970, the Russians became active in the Dhofar rebellion in Oman, which was a Persian Gulf choke-point. These moves towards militarisation of the Indian Ocean triggered countermoves to make the Indian Ocean a Zone of Peace. And both these moves and countermoves had to take into account the overall American hyper-sensitivity regarding West Asian oil supplies.

Until 1971, Diego Garcia's main source of income was from the profitable copra oil plantation. At one time, copra oil from here and the other "Oil Islands" provided fine machine oil and fuel to light European lamps. During the roughly 170 years of plantation life, coconut harvests on Diego Garcia remained fairly constant, at about four million nuts annually. The plantation years ended with the arrival of the U.S. military construction.

On 23 January 1971, a nine man advance party from NMCB-40 landed on Diego Garcia to initiate a preliminary survey for beach landing areas. Fifty additional Seabees from Amphibious Construction Battalion Two landed on the island and marked underwater obstructions, installed temporary navigational aids and cleared beach areas for landing additional personnel and materials. On 20 March 1971, an additional party of 160 Seabees from NMCB-40 arrived. Construction for U.S. Naval Communication Facility Diego Garcia was started four days later by the Seabees from NMCB-1 and finished by NMCB-62. The Seabees also started construction of an interim runway - to support the Communication Facility.

In October and November of 1971, Detachment CHAGOS of NMCB 71 and the whole of NMCB 1 arrived, marking the beginning of large-scale construction. NMCB 1 built the transmitter and receiver buildings and placed the base course for the permanent runway and parking apron. In July 1972, NMCB 62 relieved NMCB-1 and took over the departing battalion's projects. On 25 December the first C-141J transport landed on the newly completed 6,000 foot runway with the Bob Hope Christmas Troupe.

During December 1972, a Pre-commissioning Detachment arrived to prepare the Naval Communication Station for operations. On 20 March, 1973 U.S. Naval Communication Station, Diego Garcia was commissioned. The setting was sparse, but communications have been "UP" ever since. The communications facility was later changed to Naval Computer and Telecommunication Station (NCTS) in October of 1991.

Work commenced on the second construction increment, a $6.1 million project which involved the construction of a ship channel and turning basin in the lagoon. This project, however, was contracted to a Taiwanese firm. Seabees continued to work on support and personnel facilities in the cantonment area at the northern tip of the atoll. The second major area of construction was the airfield and its supporting facilities. Revised requirements called for the extension of the original 8,000-foot runway to 12,000 feet and additions were made to the parking apron and taxiways. New hangars and other support facilities were also built. During 1973 and 1974, Seabee units worked on all these projects. Because the final mission of Diego Garcia was still evolving, it was clear that still more construction would take place in the years to come.

In 1975 and 1976, Congress authorized $28.6 million to expand the Diego Garcia facilities to provide minimal logistics support for U.S. task groups operating in the Indian Ocean. Additional projects were undertaken in 1978. World events in 1979 and 1980, however, forced a reevaluation of the U.S. defense posture in the Indian Ocean area which indicated the need for pre-positioned materials to support a rapid deployment force and a more active U.S. presence in the area. It was decided to further expand the facilities at Diego Garcia in order to provide support for several pre-positioned ships, loaded with critical supplies. By the end of 1980 the Naval Facilities Engineering Command had advertised a $100 million contract for initial dredging at Diego Garcia to expand the berthing facilities.

Thus, what began as simply a communication station on a remote atoll became a major fleet and U.S. armed forces support base by the 1980s. By 1983 the only Seabee unit remaining on Diego Garcia was a detachment of NMCB 62. The work the Seabees completed on Diego Garcia since 1971 represented the largest peacetime construction effort in their history. Diego Garcia was the major Seabee construction effort of the 1970s and they acquitted themselves well under the difficult and isolated conditions that exist here. When the Seabees arrived they lived in tent camps, when they departed they left a fully-developed, modern military facility, capable of supporting thousands of U.S. personnel.

Navy Support Facility Diego Garcia was established 1 October 1977, after six years as a Navy communications station. Known as the "Footprint of Freedom," it plays a primary role in support of U.S. military units operating in the Indian Ocean and Arabian Gulf. Diego Garcia is a British Indian Ocean Territory. The island's only occupants are NSF personnel and tenants. Most of the approximately 3,500 people are third country nationals working under the large base operating support (BOS) contract. In addition to a regularly deployed VP squadron, major activities include a Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station, maritime prepositioning ships anchored in the lagoon, Military Sealift Command, and COMPSRON TWO (which controls the MSC ships). The Air Force and Army also maintain support elements on the island.

A major change to the island organizational structure occurred with the establishment of the Navy Support Facility (NSF) on October 1, 1977. Commanding Officer, NSF, assumed all duties and responsibilities previously assigned to the Island Commander. The nucleus for NSF came from the original Communication Station enlisted and officer allowances. All billets, other than those dedicated to communications support, were transferred to CO, NSF, who is responsible for maintaining and operating facilities and providing services and materials in support of several tenant shore activities and units of the operating forces. Following the overthrow of the Shah of Iran in 1979, Diego Garcia saw the most dramatic build-up of any location since the Vietnam War era. In 1986, Diego Garcia became fully operational with the completion of a $500 million construction program.

The 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait marked the most intense operational period in Diego Garcia's history. From 1 August 1990 to 28 February 1991, NAVSUPPFAC Diego Garcia achieved and maintained the highest degree of operational readiness and provided levels of support which outstripped all contingency planning. As the base population doubled almost overnight, with the deployment of a Strategic Air Command Bombardment Wing and other aviation detachments, workload base-wide increased from 300-2000% over peacetime levels with no personnel augmentation. Diego Garcia became the only US Navy base that launched offensive air operations during Operation Desert Storm and Diego Garcia remains a vital link in the US defense structure.

Det 1, 13th Air Force, is responsible for operating and maintaining a Southwest Asia contingency base on Diego Garcia in support of CINCCENTCOM OPLANs. Provides facilities, munitions, vehicles, Aerospace Ground Equipment, supplies and aviation fuel to sustain deployed bomber and tanker sortie operations.

The 36th Civil Engineer Squadron sent a 24-person Prime Base Engineer Emergency Force detachment to Naval Support Facility, Diego Garcia, British Indian Ocean Territories, in June 2000. The team left Andersen seven weeks ago to complete some construction work as part of the Air Force's Bomber Forward Operating Location initiative. Members from Pacific Air Forces Headquarters and 36th CES identified five requirements for the team, including: constructing a land mobile radio repeater facility, constructing supply and maintenance secure storage rooms, repairing tent city electrical system, constructing a generator pad and testing grounding points on the south ramp.

The mission of putting bombs on target almost 4,000 miles away in Afghanistan is comparable to flying from Chicago to Rio de Janiero, Brazil. Success falls on the backs of bomber and aerial refueling aircraft that commute together from the tropics to Afghanistan. Coalition aircraft at Diego Garcia dropped more ordnance on Taliban and Al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan than any other unit during the war on terror.

Force members live in tents, which cyclones occasionally threaten to throw into the sea - or on a merchant ship that leaves residents with sea legs once they get back on shore.

The B-2 Shelters
In mid-September 2002 it was reported that the US had requested permission to build special shelters for four to six B-2 bombers at Diego Garcia. The portable climate-controlled shelters take about a month to erect. According to American Spaceframe Fabricators, the contractor that designed and constructed the B-2 Shelter System, two shelters had been constructed by late November and two additional structures would not be completed until June 2003 due to lack of existing concrete foundation.

The Island
As the United Kingdom owns the island, there are British Representatives on Diego Garcia, responsible for law and order on the island. The British Representative, or BritRep, acts as the Commanding Officer for Naval Party 1002, as well as the local magistrate and judge for all legal matters dealing with British law. Under his cognizance are the British customs personnel, Royal Overseas Police Officers (ROPOs) and a compliment of Royal Marines, who patrol and protect the entire BIOT.

Probably the place's prickliest subject is the issue of the 1,200 to 2,000 members of the Ilois, former inhabitants the British moved off the island in the late 1960s. They now live 1,200 miles away on the isle of Mauritus. As the descendants of workers who arrived on the island in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, they had lived there for several generations. But U.S. and British government texts refer to them merely as temporary workers, not indigenous inhabitants. Before those colonial workers, apparently no one ever settled there. The U.S. lease expires in 2016, and the Ilois are making plans return to turn the place into a sugarcane and fishing enterprise.

Just getting to the site is a challenge in itself - the sandy ridge has no other land within 1,000 miles with India to the north, Madagascar to the west, Indonesia to the east and nothing but Antarctica way to the south. The only way in and out is through government ships or planes.

Diego Garcia is part of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) formed in 1965 from territory belonging formerly to Mauritius and the Seychelles. The island is one of 52 in the Chagos Archipelago, which extends over an area of 10,000 square miles. The archipelago is located in the heart of the Indian Ocean, south of India and between Africa and Indonesia. The tropical island is a narrow coral atoll with a land area of about eleven square miles, nearly enclosing a lagoon. Its configuration is that of a "V" drawn by a shaky hand. The island stretches 37 miles from tip to tip, with an opening to the north-northwest. Three small islands dot the mouth of the lagoon which is approximately 13 miles long and up to 6 miles wide. The lagoon is from sixty to one hundred feet deep with numerous coral heads in most areas. Shallow reefs surround the island on the ocean side, as well as in the lagoon. The island's mean height above sea level is 4 feet.

Diego Garcia is the largest of many atolls that form the Chagos Archipelago. The horseshoe- shaped atoll is located seven degrees south of the equator in the North Central Region of the Indian Ocean. It is heavily vegetated, has a land area of 6,720 acres and is 37 miles long, tip- to-tip. The maximum elevation is 22 feet, with an average elevation of four feet above sea level. The enclosed lagoon is approximately seven miles wide and thirteen miles long. The three small islands at the mouth of the lagoon and the shape of the atoll give the impression of a footprint, hence the term "Footprint of Freedom".

Annual rainfall averages 102 inches with the heaviest precipitation occurring during October to February. Humidity remains high throughout the year and temperatures are generally in the upper-80's Fahrenheit by day, falling to the mid-70's by night. The almost constant breezes keep conditions reasonably comfortable.

The atoll has been used primarily for the harvesting of coconuts from which coconut oil and copra were processed. It has also been a coal station and guano mining was carried out for a brief period.

Britain granted independence in the 1950s and 1960s to many of its former colonies in the Indian Ocean. The remaining islands were joined under the title of the British Indian Ocean Territories (BIOT), Diego Garcia being one of these islands. The British and United States Government agreements allowed the US access to part of the island to construct a communication station and subsequently a Naval Support Facility. The British do not charge the US any rent.

Diego Garcia is an unaccompanied tour area; concurrent travel of dependents is not authorized. Furnished BOQ is available upon arrival. Medical and dental facilities may be inadequate and may require treatment at distant locations. Since the BOQ is fully furnished, shipment of household goods into Diego Garcia is limited to one thousand pounds of personal items. Appliances, television, bed, and furniture is provided. EML is available to Singapore. Military flights are the only authorized flights in and out of Diego Garcia to Singapore. Commercial and military flights are available from Singapore. Facilities include a gymnasium, clubs, galley, Ship's Store, library, Post Office, Navy Federal Credit Union, Community Bank, and chapel.

This spectacular location east of equatorial Africa -- where a 30-minute bus tour can show you the entire location -- holds elements of an adventure vacationer's dream. There's tropical windsurfing and fishing for 200-pound marlin. While it's no Pebble Beach, playing the 9-hole golf course is free -- and a hoot to do with no shoes on. And the sea is so warm, snorklers can wade in and play tourist with thousands of brilliantly colored tropical fish.

Diego Garcia, the southernmost island in the Chagos Archipelago and a part of the British Indian Ocean Territory, is centrally located in the Indian Ocean. It is a narrow atoll 39 miles long that nearly encloses a lagoon 13 miles long and up to 6 miles wide. Depths in the lagoon range from 60 to 100 ft; numerous coral heads extend toward the surface and form hazards to navigation. Shallow reefs surround the island on the ocean side as well as within the lagoon. The new channel and anchorage area are dredged to 45 feet (mean low water springs), and the old turning basin can also be used if depth is sufficient for ship type.

Diego Garcia is not a typhoon haven. The surrounding topography is low and does not provide an extensive wind break. Expected winds of 60 kt or greater justify a sortie to the north of all ships in the lagoon. With expected winds around 35-40 kt, sortie is not recommended. Small harbor craft can be moored at existing pier structures and larger ships can be anchored in the lee anchorage. In the past 30 years, the island has not been seriously affected by a severe tropical cyclone even though it is threatened about once a year. The maximum sustained wind associated with a tropical cyclone in the past 30 years at Diego Garcia has been approximately 40 kt.
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Quote from: sky otter on March 24, 2014, 06:09:21 PM

ah Rose.. FYI    fruity bat beat ya too it.. he post that as his scenario back a few pages

Thanks, Sky. I knew I'd seen that theory recently, couldn't remember where. I am under the impression that the cryptic poster is, or is commonly believed to be Ed Dames.  I presume he is also a source for the Veteran's Today report.  But I don't think anyone has to be an RVer in order to see what's not in front of our eyes. 

At this point, even if wreckage is found, it will prove nothing. How long does it take to disassemble a plane and distribute parts elsewhere? I think the motives and the masterminds of this event are going to be something we will be discussing for ever.

What was the agenda and who got double crossed? Who got kidnapped, had their memory wiped, or was sold or outright murdered? Hollywood is dialing up the story treatments even as we speak.

rose

WarToad

 Cable news is reporting that a phone call to the Captain 2 minutes prior to take off, came from a woman,  cell phone from a store that sells sim cards,  false ID to buy the cell phone/sim card.

Link when it hits web.
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thorfourwinds

A bit of background on this South Seas Paradise Island...

Diego Garcia, Swept Clean & Sanitized | Deanna Spingola

- by Deanna Spingola ©, 16 October 2007

The indigenous population of Diego Garcia was considered expendable by the Power Elite who routinely seize prime real estate, either for resources or location - inhabited or not. Dispassionate depopulation and genocidal slaughter are standard procedures. "What if you and your family were thrown out of your home, put on a ship, dumped on docks somewhere, destitute? How would you like it?"

That's the question that journalist John Pilger justifiably posed to Bill Rammell, the Foreign Office minister responsible for the Chagos Archipelago, a group of sixty-five predominantly uninhabited islands in the Indian Ocean.

Some islands, however, were populated. In the mid 1700's a few French colonialists settled on an isolated island in the Indian Ocean and built coconut plantations for the production of oil. Labor was supplied by slaves abducted from various regions in Africa - Madagascar, Senegal and Mozambique. Names and ancestry were undocumented - slaves have always been considered property, not human beings. Other inhabitants were Creole, descendants of French colonials and their slaves. Additionally, a few Tamils from southern India were taken to the Chagos Islands. From about 1760, several generations of Chagos islanders established a shared heritage, created a unique identity, and spoke a common language. "They became the indigenous people of the Chagos Archipelago."

The main island in the Chagos Archipelago, an atoll, Diego Garcia, was discovered by Portuguese explorers in the early 16th century. Diego Garcia is strategically located almost exactly midway between Africa and Asia, about 1,000 miles from the southern India coast. Diego Garcia, an Equatorial paradise, has a large protected natural harbor and experiences no serious tropical storms. Islanders owned their own boats; they lived in shingled and thatched cottages; they fished, gardened, had beloved pets and raised live stock. There were villages, a school, a church, a prison, and a railway. It was, to the islanders, a peaceful, natural, beautiful paradise.

The Chagos Islands, including Diego Garcia was part of the island nation of Mauritius, a British colony, situated off the coast of Africa in the southwest Indian Ocean, about 560 miles east of Madagascar.

U.S. interest in the Chagos Islands began in 1961. Rear Admiral Grantham of the US Navy was charged with finding a suitable island site for a military base that would give Washington domination in the Indian Ocean - this ultimately led to the establishment of one of the biggest military bases outside of the United States. The Pentagon later referred to it as an "indispensable platform" for policing the world.

Since 2001, Diego Garcia is one of the destinations for CIA rendition flights and is the location of one of the CIA's secret prisons program.

This has been confirmed by a U.S. general and the Council of Europe, a human rights watchdog. On November 3, 2000, the Foreign Office issued a new Immigration Ordinance order that ensured Diego Garcia island would remain "as secret a place as can be found on the planet," according to a US official.

As a follow up, over the course of the next three years, Grantham's group visited two islands - Aldabra and Diego Garcia. Due to environmentalist concerns raised by the Smithsonian over the Giant Land Tortoise, nesting sea birds and flightless birds they "settled" for Diego Garcia. In February 1964, a clandestine Anglo-American meeting was held in London to devise the best approach for seizing the island. But Diego Garcia was part of Mauritius which the U.S. had no interest in.

Based on the agreements reached in that secret meeting, Britain informally granted Mauritius independence on November 8, 1965 and officially on March 12, 1968, on the condition that they relinquish, for 3 million pounds, complete control of the islands, particularly Diego Garcia.

As part of the scheme, the British government then established a new colony consisting of the Chagos Islands, called the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT). This would facilitate clearing the island of the indigenous population.

This conditional independence was against U.N. Resolution 1514. Condemnations from the United Nations regarding the dismembering of the Mauritian Territory were ignored (U.N. Resolution 2066). In December 1966, Britain signed an agreement with the U.S.A. giving the largest of the islands, Diego Garcia, to the Pentagon on a 50 year extendable lease for use as a military base.

In return for the projected depopulation of Diego Garcia and its exclusion from the British colony, London allegedly received a generous $14 million discount on the purchase of a Polaris nuclear weapons system, made in the U.S.

"Britain had managed to conceal the $14 million it was paid for the fifty-year lease on the islands by persuading the Americans to disguise the cost as a discount on the research and development charges for a new generation of Polaris nuclear missiles then being sold to the Royal Navy."

Two U.S. administrations and the Labour government of Harold Wilson contrived, during the 1960s, to "sweep" and "sanitize" the islands (the exact words used in American documents). "Files found in the National Archives in Washington and the Public Record Office in London provides an astonishing narrative of official lying."


Governments habitually lie!

In 1966, to accommodate the un-peopling of the island the British Foreign Office falsely claimed that the indigenous islanders were actually temporary contract workers who could be "returned" to Mauritius and the Seychelles, 1,000 miles away. Records would have to be altered to "convert all the existing residents into short term, temporary residents."

Sir Paul Gore-Booth, permanent under-secretary at the Foreign Office stated in August 1966: "We must surely be very tough about this. The object of the exercise was to get some rocks that will remain ours. There will be no indigenous population except seagulls." Another British official, under the heading: Maintaining the Fiction, urged his colleagues to reclassify the islanders as "a floating population" and to "make up the rules as we go along."

The indigenous Chagos Islanders, about 2000 individuals who were technically British subjects, "were never consulted or informed of any of these administrative changes. Nor were they aware that once a U.S. military base was established on Diego Garcia their presence would no longer be tolerated on any of the 65 islands."

The U.S. Congress authorized the building of the base in December 1970.

In November 1965 and again in 1971, ordinances were written, without parliamentary consultation, "which made it illegal for anyone to come to the islands ever again -or, indeed, to be there in the first place - without a permit." Violations would result in deportation and incarceration while awaiting deportation.

Up until March 1971, Diego Garcia's main source of income was from the profitable copra oil plantation. "At one time, copra oil from here and the other 'Oil Islands' provided fine machine oil and fuel to light European lamps." During the approximately 170 years of plantation life, coconut harvests on Diego Garcia remained fairly constant - about four million nuts annually. The plantation years, along with the jobs and economic security, ended with the arrival of the U.S. military construction. Britain had purchased the copra companies and immediately closed them down.

Because Washington didn't want a "population problem," British officials devised "the complete sterilization of the archipelago." They withdrew crucial services and blocked supply ships carrying food and medicine to Diego Garcia are turned back. Individuals who temporarily left the island for urgent medical or other legitimate reasons were not permitted to return. The intimidating British began to "return" those alleged "transient laborers" to Mauritius. The Americans had arrived by the time Sir Bruce Greatbatch, the governor of the Seychelles, was charged with the "sanitizing" project. He began by rounding up about 1,000 pets who were gassed "using the exhaust fumes from American military vehicles." Not all of the animals died from the gassing.

Then Greatbatch used the long, low brick shed used in the production of coconut oil known as the coconut calorifier. The shed housed two shelves, one above the other; the upper shelf held coconut flesh. The lower shelf held coconut husks which were set afire. It was economic and required no extra fuel. The flesh above cooked and expelled its water content to create copra, an edible fat from which oil is produced. "This was to be the pyre. A ton or so of husks were heaped inside and set alight that day, sending up flames and billows of black smoke."

It took patience and time. "With the aid of rifles, strips of strychnine-laced beef and whips made from palm fronds, the dogs were all herded or dumped dead inside the shed" ... Greatbatch had "the fires re-stoked and the calorifier sealed with closely fitting steel plates, and the dogs were promptly - or, according to contemporary reports, really rather slowly - burned or suffocated." The animal's "remains" were later "inspected" by the real brutish beast, Bruce Greatbatch. The beloved pets were no longer "a nuisance" and surely sent a message to their sorrowful owners. ... Lizette Tallatte now in her 60's remembers "and when their dogs were taken away in front of them, our children screamed and cried."

The remaining population, fearing they might be next, was loaded onto ships, operated by Rogers & Co. "Marie Therese Mein, a Chagossian, later says U.S. officials threatened to bomb them if they did not leave." They left everything; one suitcase was allowed. Personal family records were confiscated - the records of births, deaths, marriages - their history.

This is reminiscent of their early ancestors whose names and origin were insignificant to those who enslaved them. On one journey in rough seas, the copra company's horses occupied the deck, while women and children were forced to sleep on a cargo of bird fertilizer. Arriving in the Seychelles, they were marched up the hill to a prison where they were held until they were transported to Mauritius. There, they were dumped on the docks. Between July 27, 1971 and May 26, 1973 the remaining residents were forcibly removed from the island.

Resettlement or integration assistance did not exist. Mauritius was fast-paced, different than life on the island. Fishing and oil pressing expertise were unnecessary. Britain allowed the Mauritius government an extremely modest financial compensation 12 years after the first individuals were dumped on the docks. Small plots of land were issued to the victims which typically had to be sold to pay previous indebtedness as a result of their years of destitution. In order to receive this "compensation" bribe, each person had to sign an ambiguous document renouncing his/her right to return to Diego Garcia.

The U.S. got what they asked for. The expulsion of 2,000 Chagos islanders was "virtually a condition of the agreement." "These people," according to Greatbatch, "have little aptitude for anything other than growing coconuts. They are unsophisticated and un-trainable." In other words, these gentle people were expendable. They were literally dumped penniless on the docks in Mauritius.

These egregious actions condemned the islanders and their families to deep depression and poverty. Some received minimal compensation after waiting seven years. Ninety percent of the island's former inhabitants could not find employment and barely existed in Mauritius's slums. Mauritius already suffered from high unemployment and considerable poverty. Even low paying domestic service jobs were almost impossible to find. The poverty-stricken islanders suffered experienced discrimination. "Their diet, when they could eat, was very different from what they were used to."

No one was allowed to stay on the part of the island unoccupied by the U.S. military or on the two remaining islands. Perhaps the U.S. military had something to hide? This highly secret "mass kidnapping" preceded by conspiracy was unknown to the British Parliament and the U.S. Congress for almost a decade. There were no newspaper reports - nothing!

This was a conspiracy carried out at the highest levels of our government. It was not the first time nor will it the last.


Invited by the British Ministry of Defense (War), journalists visited the U.S. base and reported as predicted, "as if no one had ever lived there. BBC newsreaders would later refer to U.S. aircraft flying out to bomb Afghanistan and Iraq from the "uninhabited" island of Diego Garcia.

Until recently, the British Foreign Office website denied the very existence of the people, British citizens, they should have protected. Knowledgeable politicians, whose job it is to protect the rights of the citizens, remained silent and allowed and promoted the policies that desecrated the lives and histories of the gentle brown-skinned islanders. It was ethnic cleansing! What an obvious difference to the Anglo-American response in the Falkland Islands.

Seven British governments ignored the plight of their vulnerable, distant, discarded citizens living out an indescribable nightmare in shanties in the Seychelles and Mauritius, "while ministers and their officials in London mounted a campaign of deception that went all the way up to the prime minister."
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Thor that is a very interesting piece of history I was not aware of what transpired with the indigenous population.

UPDATE

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/03/24/navy-sends-locator-to-find-jetliners-black-box.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm


Cannot post the information but can provide a link.  Two devices being sent to the area for use in homing in on the pinger from the boxes.

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wartoad.. see reply 262 about phone call

spacemaverick

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/satellite-pings-revealed-missing-malaysia-plane-s-path-499727?h_related_also_see

London:  The satellite operator Inmarsat said on Monday it managed to work out which direction the missing Malaysia Airlines plane flew in by measuring the Doppler effect of hourly 'pings' from the aircraft.

Malaysia's prime minister announced earlier that the Inmarsat analysis of flight MH370's path placed its last position in remote waters off Australia's west coast, meaning it can only have run out of fuel above the southern Indian Ocean.

Inmarsat explained how they plotted models of the flight's route by measuring the Doppler effect of satellite pings, giving corridors arcing north and south along which the plane could have flown for at least five hours.

Despite the plane's communication systems being switched off, satellite pings were still bouncing back from the aircraft, which which vanished on March 8 with 239 people on board while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

more at the link above.
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spacemaverick

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spacemaverick

This link will take you to sofrep.com which has some pretty level headed and accurate ideas and tends to answer many questions.  Please take the time to read and form an opinion.  It is a rather long article but makes sense and explains some of the systems on board the aircraft along with systems used to monitor the areas of the world.

On March 8, a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER departed from Kuala Lumpur with 227 passengers and 12 crew members. It departed at 12:41am (1441 GMT), and was due in Beijing at 6:30am (2230 GMT) that same day. It hasn't been seen since. This report attempts to debunk some of the theories about that disappearance and make a new assertion about what might have befallen the passengers and crew of that ill-fated flight. Flight MH 370.

Read more: http://sofrep.com/34084/alright-goodnight-malaysia-want-know-happened-flight-mh-370/#ixzz2wxDU65tP
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spacemaverick

At this point I am still confused because of too many theories but we just have to wait until something of clear evidence is found hopefully.  Good night....
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zorgon

Quote from: spacemaverick on March 25, 2014, 03:28:33 AM
Thor that is a very interesting piece of history I was not aware of what transpired with the indigenous population.

Happened on Kwajalien Atoll as well. What you have to realize is just how SMALL the island is LOL  I covered Diego Garcia Atoll, BIOT long ago when we were doing ECHELON sites



US Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station
Far East Detachment, Diego Garcia
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/ECHELON_Diego_Garcia.html

Has some nice black airplanes too :D



spacemaverick

I have learned much about bases and listening posts the like from Jack Arnesons portion of livingmoon.  I need to go back and do some review.  Thanks Z.
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