Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

http://intellihub.com/malaysia-says-sealed-mh370-evidence-made-public/

Malaysian government continues to backtrack after initial evidence in case of missing flight is proven false

By John Vibes

MALAYSIA (INTELLIHUB) — Malaysian officials told relatives of passengers from missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that there was sealed evidence, which will not be made public.

The sealed evidence reportedly includes air traffic control radio transcript, radar data and airport security recordings.

Family members of the missing passengers are becoming increasingly frustrated and impatient with the treatment that they are receiving from investigators.

Many are now casting doubt on the initial report that the plane crashed into the Indian Ocean, killing everyone on board.  Family members are suggesting that the Malaysian government prematurely announced that the plane had crashed, acting on faulty evidence.

"We demand you retract announcement that MH370 ended in south Indian Ocean and continue search-and-rescue operations," one relative said at a briefing earlier this week.

The premature announcement of the crash was sent through a text message to relatives, on behalf of the Malaysian government, nearly a week ago.  Since then it was discovered that the object they had found in the ocean was not wreckage, but random unidentified "junk".

I can understand not releasing the security recordings because we don't even do that back here in the states...even from private companies.  That's the first no no in the security field.

[08rubicon]

Here's the latest and most interesting. You think ya heard it all, read this and you'll know how ridicules the world really is.


This hijacked peep claims he sent a text message with a photo which just so happens to be all dark and nothing to see. It appears this peep is rather clever since he says he was blindfolded and still was able to text and take a dark photo of his cell.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/hijacked-ibm-engineer-successfully-dialed-out-of-diego-garcia-2928892.html

This is no doubt a hoax..That said, the text message should
           be traced, if possible., in the slim chance that it might be real.
           Would hate to miss a resque because we took it as a joke.
             rubicon

[spacemaverick]

This is no doubt a hoax..That said, the text message should
           be traced, if possible., in the slim chance that it might be real.
           Would hate to miss a resque because we took it as a joke.
             rubicon

That does make sense.  Nothing should be written off.  That's one of the rules of an investigator is to exhaust any and all leads because you just never know.  In my previous career we would exhaust looking into all statements.  Follow the evidence and it can prove fruitful or fruitless but you have to follow it until proven wrong.  An investigation can take many turns.

One of the things that bothers me is that PINE GAP in Australia is part of the Echelon ( I believe Australian government would not divulge what they really do at PINE GAP even though we all know what it is....right here on living moon tells what it is)...should have tracked the aircraft also.  They should know or at least have a good idea....

[spacemaverick]

HOWEVER.......kernels of truth can show themselves as long as you just don't believe EVERYTHING you hear or see.  Some investigators do disregard eyewitness accounts but you as an investigator have to look at the totality of what you are hearing from the people.  Classic case is TWA 800 where basically the same story only in different wording from each of the eyewitnesses were telling a similar story.  These eyewitnesses did not know each other for the most part and yet their accounts of what they observed were similar.

See the link below for entire article.  Granyard works for ABC and look at his background in the article.

http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/islanders-sabotage-mh370-black-op-2432880.html

............With subtle mockery, however, Granyard told the world via ABC's camera that investigators disregard civilian eyewitness accounts, rasing more red flags on Twitter and other online social media sites.

"People aren't trained to know what they see," he says, implying only insiders know what they see; others are likely to mistake something else for a jumbo jet; only insiders know what they see; and others reporting what they see are delusional. "We usually discount what we hear from eyewitnesses."

Others have tweeted and retweeted about searching the oceans and finding plastic bags and cargo container debris but ignoring and not interviewing islanders.

Instead of interviewing locals who saw the odd low-flying jet, and/or police who investigated these sightings, and/or Diego Garcia possibilities related to MH370, ABC shields the military by doing none of these and giving air time to military propaganda.  ABC News has also shown complicity in the crime by using a tactic involving the order in which parts of the narrative are told.  In scripting a report, one can manipulate public opnion (program people) by presenting  alternative, opposing views first, and ending with the narrative government wants believed and remembered, without critical thinking.

In ABC's report below, first, Bob Woodruff presents fishermen in Kota Bharu, Malaysia, who saw a plane fitting MH370?s description in the flight path it flew. The fishermen said it was lower and louder than anything they'd ever seen or heard in the sky. They've spent their adult live observing the ocean. They know aircraft. They know the difference between normal and abnormal, and right and wrong, for that matter. Living in a village, fishing for a living, and differing in color and socio-economic class of the military expert and most mainstream media TV reporters – are not reasons to dismiss their contribution to this humanitarian crisis as Ganyard and mainstream media are doing – and have done since inception of Diego Garcia.

"We are not seagulls or Tarzans or Man Fridays," Olivier Bancoult, a Diego Garcia exiled native had to remind officials last year.

ABC then follows the villagers' report with Ganyard belittling their reports, saying such eyewitnesses "are seldom correct" so officials dismiss them. ABC predictably concludes with Ganyard's military statements, including blaming Malaysia and it needing to be held accountable, scapegoating, so that viewers will do the same.





Is it possible that MH 370 went a different direction?  Anything is possible and information can definitely be manipulated.  Was it?  I don't think we will ever know.

[Fruitbat]

Do you think it's worth asking DEUEM to take a look at that black image?

FB.

[spacemaverick]

Do you think it's worth asking DEUEM to take a look at that black image?

FB.

Why not?  The only issue is that we don't know if its original but its worth a shot.

[Fruitbat]

Thanks very much for your work on this Spacemaverick.

You are doing a damn fine job of keeping us informed, and I for one appreciate it.

FB.

[Gigas]

Well, the least we can try, not me though, since I have no exif software to read the exif of the dark photo, is check the exif co-ords as the story states and see if they match Diego Garcia co-ords.

Anybody?

[spacemaverick]

Thanks very much for your work on this Spacemaverick.

You are doing a damn fine job of keeping us informed, and I for one appreciate it.

FB.

Thanks FB...I am glad everyone else is also chiming in.  We obtain a very wide perspective on the issues with everyone's views here.  Brainstorming is a wonderful thing.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/bright-orange-objects-spotted-by-australian-searchers-as-hunt-for-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-continues/story-fnizu68q-1226869250467#ooid=JmeG9obDrf0T7Q9eleNUXmTTi0qsYUaD

Bright orange objects spotted by Australian searchers as hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 continues


AUTHORITIES are analysing several bright orange objects spotted by Australian searchers in the hunt for missing Flight MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean. 
 
Crew on board an Australian Orion aircraft located the objects, greater than two metres in size, in a five nautical mile area within the huge search zone where the Malaysia Airlines plane is thought to have gone down.

[ArMaP]

Well, the least we can try, not me though, since I have no exif software to read the exif of the dark photo, is check the exif co-ords as the story states and see if they match Diego Garcia co-ords.

Anybody?

The EXIF has the coordinates to a hangar in Diego Garcia, but it's possible to change the EXIF data, I think I have (or had) a program that can do that.

[spacemaverick]

The EXIF has the coordinates to a hangar in Diego Garcia, but it's possible to change the EXIF data, I think I have (or had) a program that can do that.

Whoaaa....that is interesting indeed

[ArMaP]

Here's the whole EXIF data I can get with exiftool.
I removed the Directory information, as it pointed to my user name on this computer.
The "File Modification Date/Time" is the time I saved the image to my computer.

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---- ExifTool ----
ExifTool Version Number         : 8.15
---- System ----
File Name                       : 1395192158752.jpg
Directory                       :
File Size                       : 13 kB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2014:03:30 20:10:45+01:00
File Permissions                : rw-rw-rw-
---- File ----
File Type                       : JPEG
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Current IPTC Digest             : b443520a10119da99c2550175e6d0efb
Image Width                     : 240
Image Height                    : 320
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
---- IFD0 ----
Make                            : Apple
Camera Model Name               : iPhone 5
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Software                        : 7.0.6
Modify Date                     : 2014:03:18 21:08:34
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
---- ExifIFD ----
Exposure Time                   : 1/15
F Number                        : 2.4
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 3200
Exif Version                    : 0221
Date/Time Original              : 2014:03:18 20:49:41
Create Date                     : 2014:03:18 20:49:41
Components Configuration        : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Shutter Speed Value             : 1/15
Aperture Value                  : 2.4
Brightness Value                : -8.467253177
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Flash                           : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length                    : 4.1 mm
Subject Area                    : 1631 1223 1795 1077
Sub Sec Time Original           : 921
Sub Sec Time Digitized          : 921
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : sRGB
Exif Image Width                : 240
Exif Image Height               : 320
Sensing Method                  : One-chip color area
Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Focal Length In 35mm Format     : 66 mm
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Image Unique ID                 : 412f1198c985b43b2eced4067e9360d0
Exif 0xa432                     : 4.12 4.12 2.4 2.4
Exif 0xa433                     : Apple
Exif 0xa434                     : iPhone 5 back camera 4.12mm f/2.4
---- InteropIFD ----
Interoperability Version        : 0100
Related Image Width             : 320
Related Image Height            : 240
---- GPS ----
GPS Version ID                  : 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude Ref                : South
GPS Latitude                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31"
GPS Longitude Ref               : East
GPS Longitude                   : 72 deg 25' 35.56"
GPS Altitude Ref                : Above Sea Level
---- XMP-x ----
XMP Toolkit                     : XMP Core 5.1.2
---- XMP-xmp ----
Modify Date                     : 2014:03:18 21:08:34-04:00
---- IPTC ----
Envelope Record Version         : 4
Coded Character Set             : UTF8
Application Record Version      : 4
---- Photoshop ----
IPTC Digest                     : b443520a10119da99c2550175e6d0efb
---- Composite ----
Aperture                        : 2.4
GPS Latitude                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31" S
GPS Longitude                   : 72 deg 25' 35.56" E
GPS Position                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31" S, 72 deg 25' 35.56" E
Image Size                      : 240x320
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 16.0
Shutter Speed                   : 1/15
Create Date                     : 2014:03:18 20:49:41.921
Date/Time Original              : 2014:03:18 20:49:41.921
Circle Of Confusion             : 0.002 mm
Field Of View                   : 30.5 deg
Focal Length                    : 4.1 mm (35 mm equivalent: 66.0 mm)
Hyperfocal Distance             : 3.77 m
Light Value                     : 1.4


[The Seeker]

Here's the whole EXIF data I can get with exiftool.
I removed the Directory information, as it pointed to my user name on this computer.
The "File Modification Date/Time" is the time I saved the image to my computer.

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---- ExifTool ----
ExifTool Version Number         : 8.15
---- System ----
File Name                       : 1395192158752.jpg
Directory                       :
File Size                       : 13 kB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2014:03:30 20:10:45+01:00
File Permissions                : rw-rw-rw-
---- File ----
File Type                       : JPEG
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Current IPTC Digest             : b443520a10119da99c2550175e6d0efb
Image Width                     : 240
Image Height                    : 320
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
---- IFD0 ----
Make                            : Apple
Camera Model Name               : iPhone 5
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Software                        : 7.0.6
Modify Date                     : 2014:03:18 21:08:34
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
---- ExifIFD ----
Exposure Time                   : 1/15
F Number                        : 2.4
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 3200
Exif Version                    : 0221
Date/Time Original              : 2014:03:18 20:49:41
Create Date                     : 2014:03:18 20:49:41
Components Configuration        : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Shutter Speed Value             : 1/15
Aperture Value                  : 2.4
Brightness Value                : -8.467253177
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Flash                           : Off, Did not fire
Focal Length                    : 4.1 mm
Subject Area                    : 1631 1223 1795 1077
Sub Sec Time Original           : 921
Sub Sec Time Digitized          : 921
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : sRGB
Exif Image Width                : 240
Exif Image Height               : 320
Sensing Method                  : One-chip color area
Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Focal Length In 35mm Format     : 66 mm
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Image Unique ID                 : 412f1198c985b43b2eced4067e9360d0
Exif 0xa432                     : 4.12 4.12 2.4 2.4
Exif 0xa433                     : Apple
Exif 0xa434                     : iPhone 5 back camera 4.12mm f/2.4
---- InteropIFD ----
Interoperability Version        : 0100
Related Image Width             : 320
Related Image Height            : 240
---- GPS ----
GPS Version ID                  : 2.2.0.0
GPS Latitude Ref                : South
GPS Latitude                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31"
GPS Longitude Ref               : East
GPS Longitude                   : 72 deg 25' 35.56"
GPS Altitude Ref                : Above Sea Level
---- XMP-x ----
XMP Toolkit                     : XMP Core 5.1.2
---- XMP-xmp ----
Modify Date                     : 2014:03:18 21:08:34-04:00
---- IPTC ----
Envelope Record Version         : 4
Coded Character Set             : UTF8
Application Record Version      : 4
---- Photoshop ----
IPTC Digest                     : b443520a10119da99c2550175e6d0efb
---- Composite ----
Aperture                        : 2.4
GPS Latitude                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31" S
GPS Longitude                   : 72 deg 25' 35.56" E
GPS Position                    : 7 deg 18' 58.31" S, 72 deg 25' 35.56" E
Image Size                      : 240x320
Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 16.0
Shutter Speed                   : 1/15
Create Date                     : 2014:03:18 20:49:41.921
Date/Time Original              : 2014:03:18 20:49:41.921
Circle Of Confusion             : 0.002 mm
Field Of View                   : 30.5 deg
Focal Length                    : 4.1 mm (35 mm equivalent: 66.0 mm)
Hyperfocal Distance             : 3.77 m
Light Value                     : 1.4


Ok, Armap, how can we tell if the exif has been modified? Could some anal retard have deliberately plugged in the co-ords for diego garcia?


seeker

[burntheships]

Ok, Armap, how can we tell if the exif has been modified? Could some anal retard have deliberately plugged in the co-ords for diego garcia?


seeker

Good question Seeker,

I found these coordinates based upon U.S. Military data.

Lat/Long Coordinates

Coordinates

-7.313333, 72.411111

http://www.militarylodging.us/component/content/article/76-diego-garcia/112-diego-garcia-naval-support-facility

@ArMaP,

Do these coordinates match up?