Malaysia flight 370 Where is it?

[spacemaverick]

At this point all we have are theories, no pings anymore and when something new comes up I will be surprised.  Will this be like the Amelia Earhart mystery only with more people and a larger aircraft?  I find it strange that with all our technology that maybe man is not so great as we think we are.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/14/malaysia-ocean-search-airline/7691083/

Sub aborts search for MH370 when ocean proves too deep

BEIJING – The robotic submarine sent to look for the missing Malaysian jetliner deep in the Indian Ocean aborted its mission when the search area proved beyond its 15,000-foot limit, Australian authorities said Tuesday.

The U.S.-made Bluefin 21 was launched late Monday on a planned 16-hour search of the seabed for any sign of the data recorder from Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. But after just six hours, the autonomous vessel had reached its maximum depth and its safety devices returned it to the surface, Australia's Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) said in a news release.........

More at the above link.....

Here is what was said by Chinese relatives:

"Even if they find the black boxes later, if no bodies of our relatives are found, most of us won't go to Australia," he said. "We doubt the plane is there, our relatives could be in another place. We don't believe any news now."

[The Matrix Traveller]

BEIJING – The robotic submarine sent to look for the missing Malaysian jetliner deep in the Indian Ocean aborted its mission
when the search area proved beyond its 15,000-foot limit, Australian authorities said Tuesday.

I guess our level of Human Technology has been highly overrated up until this moment .

But this is the case regarding all human based Technology.   

Or is this just another excuse, to try and "cover up" what has happened ?


Re.

Here is what was said by Chinese relatives:

"Even if they find the black boxes later, if no bodies of our relatives are found, most of us won't go to Australia,"
he said. "We doubt the plane is there, our relatives could be in another place. We don't believe any news now."

Who can blame them for thinking this way, considering the unprofessional display of Malaysia's Public relations,
both by Malaysia Airlines and Gov.

[spacemaverick]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

MH370: After aborted underwater search, crews hope to try again

The first deployment of an underwater vehicle to hunt for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was aborted early, sending the drone back to the surface 10 hours before expected.

Search officials analyzed data from the Bluefin-21's six hours underwater, and found no objects of interest, the U.S. Navy said Tuesday.

Crews will try to send the Bluefin-21 probe back into the Indian Ocean later Tuesday, weather permitting.

So what went awry the first time?

"In this case, the vehicle's programmed to fly 30 meters over the floor of the ocean to get a good mapping of what's beneath and to the sides, and the chart we have for the area showed that water depth to be between the 4,200 and 4,400-meter depth," said Capt. Mark Matthews, who heads the U.S. presence in the search effort.

But the water was deeper than expected -- about 4,500 meters.

"Once it hit that max depth, it said this is deeper than I'm programmed to be, so it aborted the mission," Matthews said.

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http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/us-navy-minisub-bluefin21-relaunch-in-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-hunt/story-fnizu68q-1226885865464

AUTHORITIES looking for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were preparing to launch a minisub for a second time as they continued to sweat on an analysis of surface oil collected from the search area.

Contingency:

WHAT NEXT?


The JACC has drawn up contingency plans to replace Bluefin-21 with another minisub capable of descending to greater depths if required.

James Cook University marine geologist Dr Robin Beaman said whichever minisub was ultimately used would "basically be flying in the dark".

"It's a very poorly mapped area, there is nothing apart from very old surveys," he said.

"They are not very good when it comes to providing fine scale details (of the ocean bottom), which is what they really need to help the search."

CONSPIRACY THEORY


US authorities were also forced to take the extraordinary step of denying they were involved in a cover-up of the missing airliner's disappearance.

Persistent rumours on the internet and social media suggest MH370 has been hidden on the US Indian Ocean military base at Diego Garcia.

"This is a baseless conspiracy theory that has already been debunked around the world, and the White House Press Secretary specifically addressed this on March 18," a press attaché at the US Embassy in Malaysia said in an email to the New Straits Times newspaper.

[spacemaverick]

Malaysia Airlines MH370: Wreck hunter confident plane will be found

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-15/mh370-wreckage-site-located-david-mearns/5392440

One of the world's foremost wreck hunters believes searchers have found the crash site of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, and recovering the plane's black boxes is inevitable.

"I think essentially they have found the wreckage site," the director of the UK-based Bluewater Recoveries, David Mearns, told 7.30.

"While the Government hasn't announced that yet, if somebody asked me: 'Technically, do they have enough information to say that?' my answer is unequivocally 'Yes'."

Mr Mearns solved one of the nation's greatest maritime mysteries when he found the wreck of HMAS Sydney deep in the Indian Ocean
He was awarded an honorary Order of Australia for his work.

His advice was also crucial in helping to find the wreckage of Air France flight 447.

His confidence is based on the strength of the sonar "pings" emitted from the plane's black box recorders.

Those signals appear to have now stopped as the device ran out of battery strength.

"You just don't hear these signals randomly in the ocean. These are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very, very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them. It can't be from anything else," Mr Mearns said.

However, he understood why the searchers were being cautious.

The leader of the joint taskforce searching for MH370, Retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, says he will wait to see wreckage before confirming the plane has been found

[The Matrix Traveller]

"You just don't hear these signals randomly in the ocean. These are not fleeting sounds - they have got four very, very good detections, with the right spectrum of noise coming from them. It can't be from anything else," Mr Mearns said.

Excluding Corruption, misinformation etc. for whatever reasons.

Just by the way this whole debacle has been handled, leaves me feeling suspicious, as it has with others.

Either Malaysia's Public relations is sub standard as now Australia along with the USA have taken charge
or they are trying to hide SOMETHING for what ever reasons !

This could simply involve slack management or something far more sinister ...   

However, he understood why the searchers were being cautious.

The leader of the joint taskforce searching for MH370, Retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, says he will wait to see wreckage before confirming the plane has been found

There's that "DOUBLE talk" again, either covering his/their ass or for other reasons.

[sky otter]

what if

it was a true accident

and the folks who are supposed to be in the know ..weren't..
showing  real incompetence  at so many levels

pushing our thoughts into so many conspiracies

and just continuing to prove .....how little they and those in charge really do know
and how little they can accomplish when needed

[spacemaverick]

what if

it was a true accident

and the folks who are supposed to be in the know ..weren't..
showing  real incompetence  at so many levels

pushing our thoughts into so many conspiracies

and just continuing to prove .....how little they and those in charge really do know
and how little they can accomplish when needed

That is an excellent possibility.  Having worked in local government for 20 years...in some cases the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.  In some cases the right hand would keep information from the left hand.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  Even if this turns out to be an accident why is the Malaysian government withholding certain information not having to do with personal information.

If the plane did in fact crash at any speed and is ripped open (which does happen in virtually all cases)...stuff is going to flaot out like luggage, seat cushions and the like.  Phillip Woods girlfriend even said that nobody was looking on the Northern Arc.  She had said what if the data from the Imarrsat satellites (that have not had the data published) which showed both a northern and southern arc was wrong in some way.  They haven't searched any further in the North.  All nations radars are not the same and radar techs are not of the same expertise............

[The Matrix Traveller]

what if

it was a true accident

and the folks who are supposed to be in the know ..weren't..
showing  real incompetence  at so many levels

pushing our thoughts into so many conspiracies

and just continuing to prove .....how little they and those in charge really do know
and how little they can accomplish when needed

A very likely situation .....

Hence Embarrassment....

I hope something more sinister hasn't taken place.

I don't like the Idea of flying back through this area again, if it is going to be as unreliable
as has being portrayed lately.   

[deuem]

Ok, then start back at the beginning. The only thing I know for 100% sure is that there are lots of people missing. Has anyone confirmed beyond doubt that the plane even took off? When some stuff is BS, then maybe everything is BS. Maybe they just launched a drone to take its place with all the right gear on board. remember this was a night. Or it could have taken off empty.

In some airports you are taken to the plane in buses. Maybe they got put on another plane or taken somewhere else.

Everything we hear is third party or more.

[spacemaverick]

The entire Southern Indian Ocean search was set with an analysis from Inmarsat, a company that was thrust into the limelight by that analysis. 

LONDON — On an enormous electronic map of the globe in the modernist headquarters of a satellite company here, two green hexagons the size of dinner plates hovered off the west coast of Australia, revealing signals from an armada of ships and planes converged in the hunt for any remains of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

The searchers were there in large part because the company, Inmarsat, had produced an innovative analysis of a series of fleeting radio signals from the plane — picked up by one of its satellites in the hours after the jet, carrying 239 people, disappeared from radar screens March 8.

Investigators say Inmarsat's findings were critical to establishing that the Boeing 777-200 almost certainly crashed into the southern Indian Ocean. And more than a month since the flight took off, they remain among the few clues that investigators have as they try to piece together what happened.

Through it all, the staff in Inmarsat's east London control room have kept constant tabs on the global flow of mobile voice and data transmissions carried by its network of 11 satellites orbiting 22,000 miles above the earth. Superimposed upon the 21-foot-long map dominating a wall is a color-coded mosaic of cells, each spanning several hundred square miles.

(known as geosynchronous satellites or satellites that are synchronized with the rotation of the earth.

"The nature of our system is such that we can direct communications capacity very quickly to anywhere on the globe," said Ruy Pinto, Inmarsat's chief technology officer. "We are designed for that," he added. "So when there is an event that we feel is going to require additional capacity or resources, we have a group of people that gets together and starts diverting resources to provide terminals, radio frequency and power."

What Inmarsat's system is not designed for is finding a missing jet.

They had also said that a Northern route was possible and no looking there....what if their analysis was wrong?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/10/business/international/flight-search-brings-satellite-company-unaccustomed-fame.html?_r=0

[spacemaverick]

Yoichi Shimatsu...Unraveling The HIjacking Of Flt 370



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GjIRrORWem0

[spacemaverick]

April 17 @ 0207





"SOMETHING STINKS!" Erin Burnett On Flight 370 And The U.S. Government

[COSMO]

April 17 @ 0207





"SOMETHING STINKS!" Erin Burnett On Flight 370 And The U.S. Government

At 3:19 it clearly shows the plane heading North West...

Cosmo