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Started by COSMO, March 17, 2014, 09:45:07 AM

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Quote from: Amaterasu on March 18, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
I disagree, Luke.  We are under the oppression and spell of the psychos on this planet.  THEY "infest," making bad choices that most of Us despise but have no power to change personally, and the spell is one of no info, so We don't see the ways We could move to end Their rule.

The interweb has allowed info to finally flow, and We are just now seeing the ways out from under Them.

Infested....

We're mold...



mmmm...sandwich....

that reminds me....

Cosmo





And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Amaterasu

My assessment of Rogan's perspective?  He looks at the results of profit motive and claims it is "Humans."  If there was no profit motive We surely would choose more harmonious ways of existing.  The hidden tech that offers free energy, clean energy, cures and possibilities would allow Us to create far better on this planet.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on March 18, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
The interweb has allowed info to finally flow, and We are just now seeing the ways out from under Them.

The interweb has become a cesspool ofbad information and fear mongering. No one cares about reality and truth on it. They would rather share false news that fits their belief system or endlessly share stupid pictures so people can say "cool picture" and like it. THAT afterall is IMPORTANT :P

Have some edible money  They are YUMMY


Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on March 18, 2014, 07:49:50 PM
The interweb has become a cesspool ofbad information and fear mongering. No one cares about reality and truth on it. They would rather share false news that fits their belief system or endlessly share stupid pictures so people can say "cool picture" and like it. THAT afterall is IMPORTANT :P

I can prove You wrong in the statement, "No one cares about reality and truth on it."  Many MANY of the People I interact with ask questions like, "Does this make sense?"  "What is the evidence?"  "Where can I do more research?" 

Sure, there are many out there that are not discerning, but to paint Us ALL with that brush is disingenuous.
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

Gigas

Quote from: zorgon on March 18, 2014, 07:49:50 PM
The interweb has become a cesspool ofbad information and fear mongering. No one cares about reality and truth on it. They would rather share false news that fits their belief system or endlessly share stupid pictures so people can say "cool picture" and like it. THAT afterall is IMPORTANT :P

Have some edible money  They are YUMMY




I, as a child, used to eat those coins as they could be had for a penny and within that gold foil wrap was delicious chocolate. Now days they can't hawk those since the world has gone wrecklessly insane and some stooge would auction those pieces as golden coins and some CIA bitcoin nut would buy em all up and try to market them as currency of sorts while crashing the worlds markets on choclates.
Everyone loves me, till they're sick of me

sky otter



The interweb has become a cesspool of bad information and fear mongering.
No one cares about reality and truth on it.
They would rather share false news that fits their belief system
or endlessly share stupid pictures so people can say "cool picture" and like it.
THAT afterall is IMPORTANT


i really really hate to agree with you on that  ..    i think it is mostly corrrect
BUT
there are still some who dig and ask questions and think for themselves

sadly
it's to the point of everyone for themsleves anymore..very sad...



zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on March 18, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
I can prove You wrong in the statement, "No one cares about reality and truth on it."  Many MANY of the People I interact with ask questions like, "Does this make sense?"  "What is the evidence?"  "Where can I do more research?"

Lip service only

Back at ATS for 6 years plus I was working hard to post real data that was not only verifiable but had links to official sources.  For every 1000 that asked "Where is the evidence?" maybe TEN actually clicked on that link and out of those ten maybe TWO actually read that document and out of those two only ONE actually understood what they were reading

I see the same thing here... I have over 6000 files online of hard facts, yet no one has looked at them since the forum opened

Quote"Where can I do more research?"
LOL I challenge you to go back a week later when someone has asked "Where can I do more research?" and see how much they followed up.  You just don't understand human psychology. They will give lip service with statements like: "Wow that is really cool... I will research that some more (when I have time)"

Oddly enough they never fond that time. Even my TEST file here only got about a dozen responses, even though a simple search would even produce the answers to that 'test" LOL

People just don't really care.  If they did your TAP would be already a reality

QuoteSure, there are many out there that are not discerning, but to paint Us ALL with that brush is disingenuous.

Not all... just the vast majority... based on many years of posting and presenting evidence and proof.  My stats show maybe 99% :P  I am sure Sky Otter has seen the same or similar numbers

This is the current reality. If people really gave a damn about the way the government is run, they would do like our Forefathers did... grab pitchforks and chase the scoundrels out. But you can't even get them to boycott EXXON

zorgon

Quote from: sky otter on March 18, 2014, 08:40:28 PM
i really really hate to agree with you on that  ..    i think it is mostly corrrect

You have said similar yourself :P

QuoteBUT
there are still some who dig and ask questions and think for themselves

yes there are a few that do dig. Brien Forster is one (sadly ignored) I am one... but less and less I waste the time sharing it because no one really reads it anyway

Quotesadly
it's to the point of everyone for themsleves anymore..very sad...

True that  Disclosure is a personal issue  but for me ya want to know what did it?  Seeing National Geographic covering Elizabeth Raushers new Pet Nassim Haramein presenting FALSE rocks of no known origin as real Mayan artifacts showing Aliens

You cannot fight that kind of clout on your own. No matter what I present, they will believe that those stones are the real deal because they WANT to believe it... it fits their personal belief systems. Like I said Truth is merely an inconvenience

zorgon

Quote from: Gigas on March 18, 2014, 08:07:49 PM
Now days they can't hawk those since the world has gone wrecklessly insane and some stooge would auction those pieces as golden coins and some CIA bitcoin nut would buy em all up and try to market them as currency of sorts while crashing the worlds markets on choclates.

LOL you can get Gold Eagles at Dollar Tree for a buck :P



http://www.dollartree.com/Milk-Chocolate-Gold-Coins-6-ct-Bags/p305928/index.pro

sky otter



You have said similar yourself



yes i have and yes i agree with you on it
but
like i said..
i hate that it is so

Amaterasu

Quote from: zorgon on March 18, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
 

Lip service only

Back at ATS for 6 years plus I was working hard to post real data that was not only verifiable but had links to official sources.  For every 1000 that asked "Where is the evidence?" maybe TEN actually clicked on that link and out of those ten maybe TWO actually read that document and out of those two only ONE actually understood what they were reading

I see the same thing here... I have over 6000 files online of hard facts, yet no one has looked at them since the forum opened

Where are the links?  I haven't seen them except where You post links to specific data.  And truthfully...  Pouring over 6000 files is a bit daunting, especially when One is not sure what They're looking for.

QuoteLOL I challenge you to go back a week later when someone has asked "Where can I do more research?" and see how much they followed up.  You just don't understand human psychology. They will give lip service with statements like: "Wow that is really cool... I will research that some more (when I have time)"

I have had People in the past come to Me with more They learned.  [shrug]  I'm saying not ALL People are like You are claiming.

QuoteOddly enough they never fond that time. Even my TEST file here only got about a dozen responses, even though a simple search would even produce the answers to that 'test" LOL

It was not offered as a research test.  I did not think that was the test.  I thought it was about reading between the lines of what was offered.  Had it been stated as a test to see how much MORE We could find, I would have approached it differently.  [shrug]

QuotePeople just don't really care.  If they did your TAP would be already a reality

I disagree.  Many care, but most, not introduced to any solution, can't see any value in caring when it only leads to frustration.  A whole lot are responding positively and helping spread the solution when They encounter it.  TAP is not a reality because the tipping point in awareness has not yet been reached.  (If I had a cure for a disease and told 3 People, You think the cure would be out there *POOF*?  No...  The money interests would fight it and many more would have to know for it to wind up known and used.)

QuoteNot all... just the vast majority... based on many years of posting and presenting evidence and proof.  My stats show maybe 99% :P  I am sure Sky Otter has seen the same or similar numbers

The vast majority are struggling to put food on the table.  Somehow that will take precedence.  Be that as it may, more and more are doing what They can.

QuoteThis is the current reality. If people really gave a damn about the way the government is run, they would do like our Forefathers did... grab pitchforks and chase the scoundrels out. But you can't even get them to boycott EXXON

So...  With the vast majority barely able to feed Themselves, You expect Them to leave Podunk and go to Washington to oust People?  Against heavy defense?  Really?
"If the universe is made of mostly Dark Energy...can We use it to run Our cars?"

"If You want peace, take the profit out of war."

PLAYSWITHMACHINES

wow great thread :)
I have a very long reply, it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
All we need to do is reach the tipping point while being able to feed ourselves etc, it can be done (with a lot of push)

VillageIdiot

Zorgon, where are those 6000 files located?

The Seeker

Quote from: VillageIdiot on March 19, 2014, 02:03:42 PM
Zorgon, where are those 6000 files located?
Quite a few if not most are on the living moon website.


seeker
Look closely: See clearly: Think deeply; and Choose wisely...
Trolls are crunchy and good with ketchup...
Seekers Domain

zorgon

Quote from: Amaterasu on March 18, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
Where are the links?  I haven't seen them except where You post links to specific data.  And truthfully...  Pouring over 6000 files is a bit daunting, especially when One is not sure what They're looking for.

Well lemme see if I can find them... hang on...

hmmmm this is gonna be hard....

Oh LOOKY  Right at the top of the main Pegasus page  Go figure :P

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/menu.html

Pegasus Files Main Menu
Breaking News: Items of Interest (updated as time allows)
Member Articles: Articles by Pegasus Members
Important Articles: Archive of past breaking news still of interest
Link Database: List of Links to Official sites and other useful addresses
Research  Papers: A collection of files in PDF and other formats inc. FOIA papers
Patents on File: Archive of Patents Related to Pegasus Research Currently in Our Library
Video Clips: A collection of relevant videos from various sources
Resources: Patent Offices, Etc
Our Other Sites: Pegasus and Guest websites


And looks like that Zorgon chap spent a lot of time organizing the links and files into easy to search categories... imagine that :P

::)

Oh yeah right now the PDF's are password protected but since no one was interested anyway  :P

QuoteI have had People in the past come to Me with more They learned.  [shrug]  I'm saying not ALL People are like You are claiming.

Well DUH  Not ALL :P There are the occasional bright lights that come along. If there weren't I would have quit years ago :D

It was not offered as a research test.  I did not think that was the test.  I thought it was about reading between the lines of what was offered.  Had it been stated as a test to see how much MORE We could find, I would have approached it differently.  [shrug]

I suggest you re read the OP :P

Well on many forums I have seen people screaming and demanding that the Government and the PTB reveal the truth...

People demand researchers should work for FREE and bring them the answers...

But when those answers are laid out in front of them, most don't even look at the cover let alone visit the link and actually READ what is there...

And of the few who do... so very few actually grasp what it implies...

Now I can understand that technical journals are hard to read or understand...

And I understand videos and photos can be so easily doctored that they are almost worthless...

But if people don't take the time to LOOK CLOSELY... they will never see truth right under their noses.


Read the paper... and write to me with what you gleaned from the paper.


GLEAN :

2. to gather information or material bit by bit
  b. to pick over in search of relevant material <gleaning old files for information>
  c. to gather or collect (something) in a gradual way. : to search (something) carefully.
ex> "They spent days gleaning the files for information."



QuoteI disagree.

::)

QuoteThe vast majority are struggling to put food on the table.  Somehow that will take precedence.  Be that as it may, more and more are doing what They can.

Putting food on the table taking precedence.? Gee I wonder why? :P

But I don't see "more and more are doing what they can".   I have tried to get people who complain about the gas prices (for example) to do ONE SIMPLE THING that anyone can do easily without sacrifice. Boycott Exxon.

No American will boycott gasoline... we are too dependent on it... BUT we can send a powerful message without giving up gas... Boycott Exxon and take a few minutes to find a Shell or BP or other foreign owned station.

WHY?  How will it make a difference?  If I really have to spell it out then I already lost :P

Back in the day the Rockefellers and Justin Bush, using Union Bank and Standard Oil created a monopoly and funded the NAZI into power. Years ago that was a conspiracy theory... now it is recorded history and sanctions for trading with the enemy were filed. Standard Oil was broken up as an illegal monopoly

Well in the first year of the Iraqi "war" Exxon recorded RECORD EVER quarter profits while we shelled out willingly at the pumps "because of the war effort" First of all we were NOT at WAR with Iraq... it was called 'Operation Iraqi Freedom"  We were fighting  Saddam for THEIR freedom.

Well if you read my work and take time to research Exxon  you will find that in reality it is the old Standard Oil restructures by the same Rockefeller/Bush Oil Barrons

So yeah Shell Oil is a big one too, but they are based in the Netherlands and are making strides in Hydrogen fuels for all...  So send a strong message to the US Barons that we won't take it anymore. 

You would be amazed at how this simple action could effect things.  But NO ONE will do it... not one has so far in all the years I have been pushing this

Talking and 'sharing' news on the internet is not doing something :P Does it increase awareness? Maybe, maybe not.... if you read the responses its more not and people are getting jaded.

Yeah I know you disagree... :P but I spend a lot of time studying human nature

QuoteSo...  With the vast majority barely able to feed Themselves, You expect Them to leave Podunk and go to Washington to oust People?  Against heavy defense?  Really?

Well there is plenty of food in that White House :P  But yeah I DO expect them to get off their collective arses and march on Washington. The bikers did it, the truckers did it, the Vets stormed the closed memorials.

Everywhere else in the World the poor starving oppressed masses are rising up and marching... Brazil, Egypt, Turkey.... using sticks and stones and sheer numbers

So yeah... if ya want change I DO expect them to leave Podunk and go to Washington to oust People. But they could start with their local PIGS :P  If every community cleaned their own backyard, there would be a trickle effect that will spread like wildfire :D

Not saying shoot em (waves at NSA spook  8) but maybe tar and feather would work :P  It worked in Boston