Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

[JimO]

So basically your saying ,

Instead of just releasing the raw video to everyone where it can be analized by an objective collective at the same time, your gonna cherry-pick what you want and release the data already pre-debunked.

How nice 

Is this an official accusation ?

or are you just playing games again ?

Calm down, calm down. I'm saying I've never posted a video on youtube in my life. I was serious about asking for suggestions.

Not long ago you asked for -- and got -- dispensation for distractions from real life. Come on, give the same allowances.

[easynow]

Calm down, calm down. I'm saying I've never posted a video on youtube in my life. I was serious about asking for suggestions.

Not long ago you asked for -- and got -- dispensation for distractions from real life. Come on, give the same allowances.

I am very calm and have the patience of a Saint 

Uploading a video to Youtube is easy, just click on the "upload button"

Really it's that simple.

However ... we don't want a Youtube video,

If there's gonna be any real scientific study of the video,

We must have the raw file data, clean, unedited and original and as close to the first generation as possible.

Without all that, it would be another waste of time. 





What about my other post, with my suggestion to make things easier for you ?
...

My suggestion is, share with me the contact info ( exact email address & the person you spoke to) and the exact date/time information you used to get the data file.... so I can contact them and get the same results.

This way I can get my own copy from NASA and that lets you off the hook.

Whatcha think ?

Why not post that info in the thread so eveyone has the oppurtunity to contact NASA and get the data themselves ?

Why would you be against doing that ?


FYI - If you don't want to do that,

some people might think your trying to hide something

[ArMaP]

Uploading a video to Youtube is easy, just click on the "upload button"

Really it's that simple.

It's not that simple when you have 3 videos with 796 MB, 835 MB and 1.40 GB (after converted to FLV from the original 984 MB, 1.00 GB and 1.46 GB MPEG files, respectively) and a slow (1.5 Mbps) upload speed.

Fortunately, at work I have a 30 Mbps upload speed (and I live some 50 metres from work), so I am uploading the videos from there.

[easynow]

It's not that simple when you have 3 videos with 796 MB, 835 MB and 1.40 GB (after converted to FLV from the original 984 MB, 1.00 GB and 1.46 GB MPEG files, respectively) and a slow (1.5 Mbps) upload speed.

Fortunately, at work I have a 30 Mbps upload speed (and I live some 50 metres from work), so I am uploading the videos from there.

Yeah if you have a slow connection,
then it just takes longer, but it's still easy 

Why would you convert the file to flv ?

Isn't MP4 better quality for HD ?

Also , If there's gonna be any kind of real scientific study of the video, It can't be done with a Youtube video.

We must have the raw data, not uploaded to youtube, or altered in any way.

Just saying. 

[ArMaP]

Yeah if you have a slow connection,
then it just takes longer, but it's still easy 

Well, it wasn't that easy for me because I had to burn the files to a DVD, go to my workplace, copy the files to a server, get back to home, connect to my computer back at work and upload the files from the server to YouTube (YouTube is still processing the first one, the upload was much faster than the processing). Otherwise it would have taken more than 3 hours for each video. 

Why would you convert the file to flv ?

Isn't MP4 better quality for HD ?

Yes, but YouTube converts the videos to FLV, and does it with too much compression, so I convert them myself to FLV with the best quality I can (they still look worse than the original) and upload them to YouTube after.

Also , If there's gonna be any kind of real scientific study of the video, It can't be done with a Youtube video.

We must have the raw data, not uploaded to youtube, or altered in any way.

True, but it's easier to watch the video in YouTube, where you don't have to download it all to be able to watch it.

[JimO]

FYI - If you don't want to do that,
some people might think your trying to hide something  

Despite the undisputed fact that I'm the guy who has provided the most REAL data about these bizarre-looking videos, people already think that way, and you've been a cheerleader for them. Martyn won't even tell the date/time of his videos, and play the full audio, and you're full of excuses. I swear, you act like you want people to NOT know the operational context of the videos, maybe so as to make it easy to misinterpret them.

Case in point: is the tether swarm video in daylight or darkness? You act as if you don't want people to know -- correct me if I've misunderstood you.

[JimO]

Yeah if you have a slow connection,
then it just takes longer, but it's still easy 

Armap has the files, he's free to send them to anyone. You've never told me your email address.

[deuem]

Ok, my vacation was cut short due to a pee break.

Case in point: is the tether swarm video in daylight or darkness? You act as if you don't want people to know -- correct me if I've misunderstood you.

I don't know about anyone else but I think I clearly showed that the small clip of the swarm was in the daylight. Exact time is un-known. But even on the one NASA tape I have they said they were comming into daylight.

As far as an FLV file goes, most of the time they are trash to work with no matter how well it is made up front. MP4 or AVI is better if we can get them. What format is the original in?

Ok, Im busy now looking into Pee.

[ArMaP]

As far as an FLV file goes, most of the time they are trash to work with no matter how well it is made up front. MP4 or AVI is better if we can get them. What format is the original in?

The files I got are MPEG.

[JimO]

I've got two free silver bullets left on my dropzone trial subscription -- first two email addresses messaged to me get video-1.

[easynow]

Well, it wasn't that easy for me because I had to burn the files to a DVD, go to my workplace, copy the files to a server, get back to home, connect to my computer back at work and upload the files from the server to YouTube (YouTube is still processing the first one, the upload was much faster than the processing). Otherwise it would have taken more than 3 hours for each video. 
Yes, but YouTube converts the videos to FLV, and does it with too much compression, so I convert them myself to FLV with the best quality I can (they still look worse than the original) and upload them to YouTube after.
True, but it's easier to watch the video in YouTube, where you don't have to download it all to be able to watch it.

I don't want to stray to far off topic so I'm just going to say thanks ArMaP for doing all that work and I look forward to seeing how your videos turn out.

Please post them when possible. 

Despite the undisputed fact that I'm the guy who has provided the most REAL data about these bizarre-looking videos, people already think that way, and you've been a cheerleader for them. Martyn won't even tell the date/time of his videos, and play the full audio, and you're full of excuses. I swear, you act like you want people to NOT know the operational context of the videos, maybe so as to make it easy to misinterpret them.

Case in point: is the tether swarm video in daylight or darkness? You act as if you don't want people to know -- correct me if I've misunderstood you.

So much for your legendary personal attacks being "mythical" 


I wasn't there onboard the shuttle so I can't say for sure what the lighting conditions actually were and I certainly wouldn't want to parrott something from a government website and state it as a fact so I'll let you do that. 

Armap has the files, he's free to send them to anyone. You've never told me your email address.

Check your Pm's 

[deuem]

How Does the Shuttle External TV Camera Actually Work? part 1, part 2

part 2 says it is broke

[JimO]

How Does the Shuttle External TV Camera Actually Work? 
part 2 says it is broke

Oops, I'm on it.

Kudos to you for being the first in this discussion who actually LOOKED.

[deuem]

Please repost the camera links when it is finished, they are buried way back.

[deuem]

From the NASA STS-75 files:
Scientists report that they can measure a sunlight-induced electrical charge on the satellite as it moves through the daylight and night portions of its orbit around the Earth.