Jim Oberg's "99 FAQs About Space UFO Videos"

[JimO]

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Clearly Behind..
And again.. Behind.
Oh.. and Again.. Behind.

So since the tether was 12 miles long, do you 'see' the tether also 300 feet thick? That's what the image shows. Do you believe it?

How thick do you 'see' the tether, on screen?

[Sinny]

D, can you possibly share your process for the piks presented by Elvis?

Would that give us an indication of 'infront' or 'behind'?

[deuem]

I just don't see how. What indicates that you're processing anything but enhanced noise? If such a process works, why isn't the whole world using it instead of just you guys?

I am the only one in the whole world who has this process. You should feel privileged know me. 

This is my process developed by dear ole Deuem over a period of full time 3 months and then another year in tweaking. Then a few years in standards, Then Thor drafted me. So now you can tell your grandkids you know the Great Deuem! and I'll tell mine I know you. Fair?

Jim, Nobody has ever run my program except me. Most likely even if I gave it to you you might not be able to make it work because I left something out that I need to do to use it. That's locked in the noodle. When I kick the bucket, it goes with me. I am not like you, I am not after fame and glory, I am after the truth. This is my contribution to the UFO crews out there. They have an Engineer on their side. So you are seeing a one of a kind process. I use Math as my canvas.

Oh, on Enhanced noise, it comes out like scatter does. Noise never rings out. It splatters out. If you give me a known noise standard I will run it and we can take a peek. In the meantime ask anyone who knows more about photo pixels and have them give you a report on that gray and you will find out it is not a pure gray as your eyes see it. It is made up of many grays. So that puts it in my world.

Basically, you can change the color, blur the print but you can't hide. Power is power and if the camera caught it, I can see it. On this I have a well proven record. You should see what I did with a picture of Saturns pole. Even I gave it an OMG. NASA should read my posts more and keep you informed by the back door.

[deuem]

So since the tether was 12 miles long, do you 'see' the tether also 300 feet thick? That's what the image shows. Do you believe it?

How thick do you 'see' the tether, on screen?

Bigger than that by FAR!

I have just finished my first go around with 4 tether photos and Math. Filmed from the ground and from NASA.

If I use a 12 mile length as one standard then I bring it into CAD and scale the length to 12 miles. Yes CAD can do that. It take just a few minutes. Next I measured the ground shot ( a night time photo) and I the cable then measures 0.27 to 0.29 miles wide.

If I then measure the NASA shots I get the tether to show me 2 dimensions. The slender gray strip down the center is also 0.27 to 0.29 miles with the over all glow  ( Jims maybe noise ) measures 1.03 miles wide. A little larger that 300 feet.  So I am not even going to believe any dimensions from other sources until I run the numbers.  We have been through this crap here so many times I get sick of it. Run the Math first then open mouth.

If the tether is not 12 miles long then give me another number and i will run it again. And yes I now see the front edge lifting in the bow wake. Thank You.

All of this is telling me I am not being told what is real. Either that wire is glowing with a half mile radius or it is coiled up to around 300 meters like I said before with all 12 miles in the coil.

If you take out mentioned noise it is still a quarter of a mile wide. That' lighting up a drag strip with a 1/10 inch wire.  I need to stand corrected. I think I posted before it was 1 inch. Typo. Sorry.

So 12 miles and a 1/4 mile to a 1 mile glow or coiled?

[deuem]

D, can you possibly share your process for the piks presented by Elvis?

Would that give us an indication of 'infront' or 'behind'?

Sinny, you know me!, YES I have done them all. Data comes back with some of them on either side. But to be fair to our guest I don't want to get into that yet until we figure a lot of other stuff out first. It is like processing the wire on a tennis racket. Who crosses who and can I get every single cross right? If this thing is putting off as much power as I think it is, then you might be able to hold a paper up to it and see right through it.

In most of my work it has been shown to me that if a bright light from an object was strong enough it would wrap a wire. Not the wire wrap around the object. But I have never done a wire that seems to almost be on fire with plasma like this one. When a light wraps a wire there is usually a meeting half way around that i can pick up, even if a wire is gone. This is because the gradients were broken and go around two sides and meet up in the middle. So the tech question seems to be, can a wire be so bright that it can wrap a "Crystal Critter" or blow right through it from 40 to 80nm away. And not make a divide in the gradient lines?

Since Jim has already made up his mind, it seems this is a better test for me than him. Can I prove it either way. I don't know yet. But to answer your question, Everything is processing just as you are seeing it. I can find nothing anything contrary to the photos or vids.


Next question for Jim.  You mentioned that the cameras go into a gray pixel mode when they are overloaded and you presented nice evidence of thunder storms all grayed out. Nice and thanks for that. So, and this is a rather big so, why do all of the "Crystal Critters" have Black center holes that I can find nothing inside. Zippo, nothing but space, no gray or any other colors. How do I explain that to the readers who are expecting to see nice gray centers in them? Now I have to go back to every "Crystal Critter" and figure out if I can find a star showing through a black hole that should be gray?

Do some space Crystals have center holes like doughnuts? Maybe? Can we prove that these are Doughnut Crystals? And since they are moving they are not on the lens. That is one off the list.

My program also loves stars in space. they show up as nice little concentric rings that are perfectly round unless we have camera drift.

Now if I give you a rather large Ice Crystal with a hole in it. Say 25 mms, around an inch in diameter and I put a hole in the center and then measure the hole what should I get? Then I had to find out, back to CAD and sized a few of these up and guess what. the holes are around 0.02 mm in diameter.  those must be fantastic cameras to film a hole of that size. I want one. I can run it again after I get some sleep but they are very small holes or gray dots that turned black.

[Sinny]

Brilliant input Deuem,
You leave me in awe.

[JimO]

If you take out mentioned noise it is still a quarter of a mile wide. That' lighting up a drag strip with a 1/10 inch wire.  I need to stand corrected. I think I posted before it was 1 inch. Typo. Sorry.

So 12 miles and a 1/4 mile to a 1 mile glow or coiled?

How come all the eyeballs that were ever turned on it, from orbit and from the surface, including my own,  only saw a thread-thin gleaming line?

How should I believe, you, or my lying eyes?

Can't you even conceive of the 'thickness' being an artifact of the camera?

[Sinny]

How come all the eyeballs that were ever turned on it, from orbit and from the surface, including my own,  only saw a thread-thin gleaming line?

How should I believe, you, or my lying eyes?

Can't you even conceive of the 'thickness' being an artifact of the camera?

Ahem. The eye's do lie, in some cases we rely on technology to tell us the truth.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Why are we caring about the thickness. Is that your theme here?
Because behind is behind.
And those animate forms were there. Behind the tether on NASA camera.
However you spin it .
And they look alive to me.
Why can't you conceive that.
Because it's space?
And nothing lives in space?
Why not Jim?
Tell me the math why no living organism cannot evolve anywhere.
Like sulphur pits in the Mariana Trench 6 miles down in the Pacific Ocean.
Life is everywhere. The sky and the sea are all made of the same building blocks.
Carbon and oxygen buddy... There's no stopping it...

[ArMaP]

Because that's the way it looks like on film!

That's what most people answer, what I want to know (and that's why I ask it) is "what makes them think that they pass behind, as a big part of our vision is the interpretation from our brains, that, based on what we expect, creates an image that makes sense.

What I would like would be for people that think about what they are seeing and try to understand in what they base their interpretation of what they see.

ArMaP, while were here, What is your take. Front or behind?

Front, because I think those are small, out of focus objects closer to the camera than the tether. And when I mean closer I mean maybe 10 or 20 metres (or maybe more), not just 1 or 2, as the camera would show them different if they were that close.

[ArMaP]

Clearly Behind..



And again.. Behind.



Oh.. and Again.. Behind.

See above.

[Flux]

Well put something together to prove they are in front ArMap. You have a keen interest in this thread so I'm sure the work involved wouldn't be too hard.

[Sinny]

That's what most people answer, what I want to know (and that's why I ask it) is "what makes them think that they pass behind, as a big part of our vision is the interpretation from our brains, that, based on what we expect, creates an image that makes sense.

What I would like would be for people that think about what they are seeing and try to understand in what they base their interpretation of what they see.

I feel like slamming my head against my firewall 

I agree with Flux....ArMap, Jim, prove US wrong.

[The Matrix Traveller]

You will never Convince Jim ....

I guess Jim is just trying to do his job ?       

[Flux]

Funding based on performance.