The ETHER is a Superfluid

[COSMO]

Are we living 'underwater'? Researchers believe the universe might be a 'liquid superfluid' ...

What is 'space'? Is it empty, or is it full of stuff that provides a medium through which photons, electromagnetic waves and everything else more can move?

That's a question scientists have yet to find an answer to, but a new theory suggests spacetime itself might be a 'liquid superfluid'.

And, if proven true, it could force us to take another look at the Standard Model of physics.



Consider how waves move through water, for example – the wave propagates through the water, using it as a 'medium' through which to move.

As far as we know, a transfer of energy of this sort requires a medium, like how sound passes through air or heat through metal.

How, then do electromagnetic waves, photons and so on move through space, where there is believed to be nothing?

The supposed existence of a medium in space is more commonly known as an ether, but proving or disproving its existence has been a struggle.

In Liberati and Maccione's research, they suggest that this ether is in fact a superfluid.

They say to us, the spacetime just appears as one 'classical' object, something that is whole.

But instead we should consider it as being merely the 'visible' aspect of a fluid.

'One cannot imagine a more exciting time to be working on gravity.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2612949/Are-living-underwater-Researchers-believe-universe-liquid-superfluid.html

This pleases me!     Like waves on the ocean...

It is nice to see this being considered in the "scientific" world.

The ETHER IS a superfuid and the matter and energy we can observe is just the visible portion of this fluid.  When in a placid state, it's only observable effect is gravity...dark energy, the ZPF. 

Gravity is a flow, enertia is a wave...every force of nature is a different type of movement IN the ETHER, as is "information" or "memory", movement OF the ETHER is superluminal...it is the energetic dimension of time ala Bearden!

Cosmo

[robomont]

Space is hydrogen.super fluids are highly condensed gasses.now if your talking about the stuff in the spaces between the stuff.all we know so far is there are higgs bosons.unless I missed something somewhere.
But even these higgs are so small they are hard to hit.which means there is still more stuff between each higgs boson.I personally believe it goes on into infinity.probably in a Fibonacci sequence.

[COSMO]

Space is hydrogen.super fluids are highly condensed gasses.now if your talking about the stuff in the spaces between the stuff.all we know so far is there are higgs bosons.unless I missed something somewhere.
But even these higgs are so small they are hard to hit.which means there is still more stuff between each higgs boson.I personally believe it goes on into infinity.probably in a Fibonacci sequence.

Space is hydrogen....hmmmm



Cosmo

[robomont]

Prove me wrong?

Lol .you notice how the title of the thread has superfuid not superfluid as it should be spelled.I screw up titles sometimes too.

A vacuum like space doesn't destroy hydrogen atoms unless they are hit with ionizing radiation.then they transition back to hydrogen.

[COSMO]

Prove me wrong?

Lol .you notice how the title of the thread has superfuid not superfluid as it should be spelled.I screw up titles sometimes too.

A vacuum like space doesn't destroy hydrogen atoms unless they are hit with ionizing radiation.then they transition back to hydrogen.

OK, convince me.  How much gas is there in a vacuum? 

Cosmo

[robomont]

How strong a vacuum and how large a volume.
There is no such thing as an absolute vaccuum.
Science has shaded the truth of what a vacuum really is.you can never empty a vessel.no matter how strong a vacuum you pull.the gas molecules diameter just gets bigger.

[COSMO]

How strong a vacuum and how large a volume.
There is no such thing as an absolute vaccuum.
Science has shaded the truth of what a vacuum really is.you can never empty a vessel.no matter how strong a vacuum you pull.the gas molecules diameter just gets bigger.

The point is that Hydrogen is an atom, not vacuum.  The scale of the ETHER is smaller than subatomic particles that makes up atoms.  There is an incredibly small amount of hydrogen in space, but atoms are not vacuum, gasses are not the vacuum.  The vacuum is commonly called space/time or the quantum vacuum.  It is also the source of zero point energy, not to be confused with any gas. 

That is the ETHER.

Cosmo

[zorgon]

There is no such thing as an absolute vaccuum.

yes there is...

...the space between any particles  atom or boson

[zorgon]

Re WAVES

Everything in the Universe exists in waves, which include vibration, frequency and resonance

So it is likely that the Aether also follows this Univeral principle

I bet you are right that the aether is a super fluid... we just haven't found the 'material' yet


Once a long time ago we discovered that everthing that is made of matter in the Universe is made of only 115 different particles (give or take a few at the top end of stability)

Then later we discovered that these 115 particles were in turn made of only THREE particles

Then again later we discovered these three were made of even smaller particles

Who knows what we will learn tomorrow

[robomont]

Then prove there is a absolute vacuum z.I have seen no report of such.to say there is ,is to say there is nothing in that space.how do we not know there isn't a smaller particle in it.we just haven't got the power high enough to find it yet.I think the highs boson was found at 40 billion volts and I also think I heard they were shooting for 400 billion volts.they may have to go into the trillions before they find the next one.

Because of my theory of Fibonacci.It may even be a higher voltage.

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

Thank you Z
The whole problem with the ether is proving it exists. It cant be measured any more than electrons can be seen running up & down wires.
Touch the wire & you can feel it, but you need instruments to tell you it's there, if it's AC or DC & how many volts etc.

yes a superfluid fits the description exactly, a normal fluid has all the properties of fluid but cannot be compressed or expanded.
A gas is more like a super fluid, it can be compressed & expanded, but there are limits to that.
A superfluid can be expanded & compressed almost infinitely.
The Higgs is not just a very small particle, they say it is the one responsible for giving mass it's massiveness.
I disagree with that view, the Higgs shows that 'particles' of 'matter' spontaneously come into existence, affect other particles, and then spontaneously disappear again.
IMO ALL mass does this ALL the time, only on such a small scale & happening so fast that we just don't see it.

This would explain just about everything, time, gravity etc etc.
Like Matrix says, the 'program' is continually being 'updated'

The complex interplay between mass & energy gets simpler, since they both originate in that primordial soup called the Aether.

[COSMO]

The Higgs is not just a very small particle, they say it is the one responsible for giving mass it's massiveness.
I disagree with that view, the Higgs shows that 'particles' of 'matter' spontaneously come into existence, affect other particles, and then spontaneously disappear again.
IMO ALL mass does this ALL the time, only on such a small scale & happening so fast that we just don't see it.

This would explain just about everything, time, gravity etc etc.
Like Matrix says, the 'program' is continually being 'updated'

The complex interplay between mass & energy gets simpler, since they both originate in that primordial soup called the Aether.

Yes!  Exactly Luke...totally agree.  Au

All mass does this all the time.  So fast...the wave collapse happens BEFORE we CAN see it.  Everything connected in the universal medium.  Never separate, the true unification. 

There is the higgs boson and there is the higgs field.  A boson has wave and particle duality.  I just see it as the measurable point where matter has it's connection to the higgs field...or the ETHER.  The measureable energy that link represents.  The higgs field does so much more than give particles their mass imho.  It is really the classical ETHER, the medium that EM energies propagate in AND the medium from which all matter and energy arise, from subatomic particles, to atoms to molecules, and it is responsible for gravity and is the ENERGETIC DIMENSION OF TIME.
Master it and we master gravity and time...the very fabric of creation.

Now if we could only master comedy!   

Cosmo 


 

[COSMO]

Have We Been Interpreting Quantum Mechanics Wrong This Whole Time?

Some interesting points and questions...


Many of the fluid dynamicists involved in or familiar with the new research have become convinced that there is a classical, fluid explanation of quantum mechanics. "I think it's all too much of a coincidence," said Bush, who led a June workshop on the topic in Rio de Janeiro and is writing a review paper on the experiments for the Annual Review of Fluid Mechanics.

Some enthusiasts think the fluid approach could indeed be the key to resolving the long-standing conflict between quantum mechanics and Einstein's theory of gravity, which clash at infinitesimal scales.

"The possibility exists that we can look for a unified theory of the Standard Model and gravity in terms of an underlying, superfluid substrate of reality," said Ross Anderson, a computer scientist and mathematician at the University of Cambridge in England, and the co-author of a recent paper on the fluid-quantum analogy. In the future, Anderson and his collaborators plan to study the behavior of "rotons" (particle-like excitations) in superfluid helium as an even closer analog of this possible "superfluid model of reality."



http://www.wired.com/2014/06/the-new-quantum-reality/

Thought I'd drop this here too:

Subatomic particles...

We are really talking about black holes at the subatomic scale. 

And let's talk about black holes at the cosmic scale. 

Let's talk about scale.  Here is the model of the universe.

Subatomic particles are actually subatomic black holes.

Gravity is the flow of space/time/ETHER into these subatomic black holes(vortices) and this is the source of "subatomic rotation".  Gravity sustains the universe! 

We are seeing this pattern of black holes and flows of space time out to the universal scale and that is the pattern of creation, space/time/ETHER flow into black holes, from the subatomic to the cosmic. 

Bubbles creating bubbles creating bubbles, a flow of the common, source medium, creating gravity and driving the expansion of even more bubbles, from one bubble to the next, blossoming into the true vacuum as fractal regions of space time on and on and on.



It's just natural, it's the creator's way!

Or maybe I've been up too long...  lol

Cosmo

[PLAYSWITHMACHINES]

...................................BUMPED....................for later..................
Guess i'm going to have to get up earlier each day as each deep thread gets posted, LOL
This is very interesting stuff, a short answer would be that the aether is a state of possibilities, where energy is constant overall, mass appears when that energy density reaches a certain point, and time is an illusion created by us.......
Later

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Trio of physicists create computer simulation of dark matter using an empirical function:

Three physicists affiliated with several universities in the U.S. and France have built a computer simulation of the bubble-like voids that exist in dark matter which offers better density information. In their paper published in the journal Physical Review Letters, the researchers describe how their simulation showed that such voids have a wide range of sizes and ages with highest densities occurring in boundary areas.

The new simulation showed voids of various sizes and shapes as has been seen with other simulations—what was new with this simulation was that the team showed that the average density of dark matter reached its maximum in the walls that formed the borders between the voids. They also found that the spherical densities believed to exist at the center of the voids, applies not only to voids of all shapes and sizes, but to those that existed in earlier cosmic history. Interestingly, the researchers found they could fit the profiles empirically using just two parameters in a single formula.

Some theories suggest that such structures gave rise to the parts of the universe we are able to see. In this new effort, the research trio has created a new simulation that provides a better perspective on the size and shapes of the voids—focusing specifically on density profiles.

This provides a powerful framework to match theory and simulations with observational data, opening up promising perspectives to constrain competing models of cosmology and gravity.



http://phys.org/news/2014-07-trio-physicists-simulation-dark-empirical.html#jCp

density of dark matter reached its maximum in the walls that formed the borders between the voids. They also found that the spherical densities believed to exist at the center of the voids...

Cosmo