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Started by COSMO, May 29, 2014, 12:55:03 PM

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COSMO

Here is the link to Haramein's Quantum Gravity and the Holographic Mass...

It seems it's related to some earlier work in concept...

John Archibald Wheeler in 1967
described this region of space as a "black hole" during a talk at the NASA Goddard Institute
of Space Studies. In 1957 Wheeler had already, as an implication of general relativity,
theorized the presence of tunnels in spacetime or "wormholes" and in 1955, as a
consequence of quantum mechanics, the concept of "spacetime foam" or "quantum foam" as
a qualitative description of subatomic spacetime turbulence [3]. The theory predicts that the
very fabric of spacetime is a seething foam of wormholes and tiny virtual black holes at the
Planck scale as well as being the source of virtual particle production. In Wheeler's own
words: "The vision of quantum gravity is a vision of turbulence – turbulent space, turbulent
time, turbulent spacetime... spacetime in small enough regions should not be merely
"bumpy," not merely erratic in its curvature; it should fractionate into ever-changing, multiplyconnected
geometries. For the very small and the very quick, wormholes should be as
much a part of the landscape as those dancing virtual particles that give to the electron its
slightly altered energy and magnetism [Observed as the Lamb shift]." [4]
Nassim Haramein


http://resonance.is/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/1367405491-Haramein342013PRRI3363.pdf

It is interesting.  I see that he has financed a movie on Indiegogo.  I think a lot of his ideas are on the right track.  The LHC may verify some of the things he is predicting.  We'll see. 

As far as the "foamy" nature of spacetime, there is new information that gives us some clues as to it's scale.

Confirming Einstein, scientists find 'spacetime foam' not slowing down photons from faraway gamma-ray burst (Update)

Beyond confirming the general theory of relativity, the observation rules out one of the interesting ideas concerning the unification of general relativity and quantum theory. While these two theories are the pillars of physics today, they are still inconsistent, and there is an intrinsic contradiction between the two that is partially based on Heisenberg's uncertainty principle that is at the heart of quantum theory.
One of the attempts to reconcile the two theories is the idea of "space-time foam." According to this concept, on a microscopic scale space is not continuous, and instead it has a foam-like structure. The size of these foam elements is so tiny that it is difficult to imagine and is at present impossible to measure directly. However light particles that are traveling within this foam will be affected by the foamy structure, and this will cause them to propagate at slightly different speeds depending on their energy.
Yet this experiment shows otherwise. The fact that all the photons with different energies arrived with no time delay relative to each other indicates that such a foamy structure, if it exists at all, has a much smaller size than previously expected.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-einstein-scientists-spacetime-foam.html#jCp

As to the question of the limit of the scale of the very small, I do not believe the universe cares what we think the limit should be.  But, we now know that it is smaller than expected.  That's pretty small!

There's that pesky Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principal again!  lol 

We only see gravity where there is matter.  The subatomic vortices exist only where matter exists.

Or maybe there is no spoon.  lol

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO



If parallel universes exist, here's how we could actually find the evidence

The idea of inflation holds that our infant universe experienced a period of rapid expansion (right after the Big Bang) where a nanometer of space suddenly exploded into over 250 million lightyears of space in less than a trillionth of a second.

Once inflation starts, it never completely stops. It does stop in some regions of space-time where chunks of space pinch off into bubbles like the universe we see around us today, but space continues expanding every where else. If expansion is infinite, which many believe it is, then new bubble universes are constantly forming. You can almost think of it as running with a bubble wand held out behind you: you'd leave a trail of bubbles.

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So essentially we might be drifting through space-time in a frothy bubble bath of universes.




http://finance.yahoo.com/news/parallel-universes-exist-heres-could-161104111.html

I like that.  Space time expanding into a frothy bubble bath of a universe.   This fish is taking a bath!  lol

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

zorgon


COSMO

Hi Ron, 
Those currents do show signs of spiraling, like birkeland currents, and I think if the energy levels are high enough, and they probably are, that they can impact space/time/ETHER via torsion.  This might produce space/time anomalies perhaps in the form of a smaller scale worm hole.   The points at which they cross would increase that likely hood I think.   Again, an example in nature of how to engineer space/time. 

Here's something that may be related.  I wonder if those currents could account for some of the strange sky sounds people are hearing. 

Landmark study proves that magnets can control heat and sound

In the March 23 issue of the journal Nature Materials, they describe how a magnetic field roughly the size of a medical MRI reduced the amount of heat flowing through a semiconductor by 12 percent.
The study is the first ever to prove that acoustic phonons—the elemental particles that transmit both heat and sound—have magnetic properties.
"This adds a new dimension to our understanding of acoustic waves," said Joseph Heremans, Ohio Eminent Scholar in Nanotechnology and professor of mechanical engineering at Ohio State. "We've shown that we can steer heat magnetically. With a strong enough magnetic field, we should be able to steer sound waves, too."


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-landmark-magnets.html#jCp

Mark
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COSMO

Black holes aren't 'eternal prisons': Stephen Hawking claims information CAN escape and is then stored in alternate universes

The widely-held assumption is that anything sucked into a black hole is gone forever.
But Professor Stephen Hawking has called this assumption into question.
The theoretical physicist claims to have discovered a mechanism 'by which information is returned out of the black hole,' - meaning they may not be as black as previously thought.
In fact, his new theory suggests that information lost in black holes could be stored in alternative universes.

He believes radiation leaving the black hole carries some of the information, preserved on the event horizon, with it.
And the theory suggests that some of the missing information could even be stored in alternative universes.
'The existence of alternative histories with black holes suggests this might be possible,' Professor Hawking said.
'The hole would need to be large and if it was rotating it might have a passage to another universe.
'But you couldn't come back to our universe. So although I'm keen on space flight, I'm not going to try that.'
Speaking in a public lecture, he added: 'If you feel you are in a black hole, don't give up. There's a way out.
'The message of this lecture is that black holes aren't as black as they are painted.
'They are not the eternal prisons they were once thought. Things can get out of a black hole both on the outside and possibly come out in another universe.'






Yes, an extension of space/time, another universe, caused by rotation! 

Created by torsion, sustained by a flow of space time into black holes, from the subatomic to the cosmic with universe after universe unfolding into the true vacuum, on and on into infinity.  It is a fractal, bubble universe after all!   :)

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

zorgon

Quote from: COSMO on August 25, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
Black holes aren't 'eternal prisons': Stephen Hawking claims information CAN escape and is then stored in alternate universes

The widely-held assumption is that anything sucked into a black hole is gone forever.

That was busted many years ago...  we now know that streams of plasma are emitted from the poles... in effect a Cosmic Garburator :P



But Professor Stephen Hawking has called this assumption into question.
The theoretical physicist claims to have discovered a mechanism 'by which information is returned out of the black hole,' - meaning they may not be as black as previously thought.
In fact, his new theory suggests that information lost in black holes could be stored in alternative universes.


He most likely watched an old Disney Movie Black Hole 1979  where they take a ship into a black hole



Professor Hawking said.
'The hole would need to be large and if it was rotating it might have a passage to another universe.
'But you couldn't come back to our universe. So although I'm keen on space flight, I'm not going to try that.'


Now this is what bugs me about scientists :P

WHY can you not return? If a black hole wormhole can take you to another universe, why can there not be another one in that universe that takes you home?

Silly scientist :P

Besides  Sci Fi writers had this down pat decades ago :P 


COSMO

Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 09:57:06 PM
The widely-held assumption is that anything sucked into a black hole is gone forever.

That was busted many years ago...  we now know that streams of plasma are emitted from the poles... in effect a Cosmic Garburator :P



But Professor Stephen Hawking has called this assumption into question.
The theoretical physicist claims to have discovered a mechanism 'by which information is returned out of the black hole,' - meaning they may not be as black as previously thought.
In fact, his new theory suggests that information lost in black holes could be stored in alternative universes.


He most likely watched an old Disney Movie Black Hole 1979  where they take a ship into a black hole



Professor Hawking said.
'The hole would need to be large and if it was rotating it might have a passage to another universe.
'But you couldn't come back to our universe. So although I'm keen on space flight, I'm not going to try that.'


Now this is what bugs me about scientists :P

WHY can you not return? If a black hole wormhole can take you to another universe, why can there not be another one in that universe that takes you home?

Silly scientist :P

Besides  Sci Fi writers had this down pat decades ago :P 



So true.  Disney was years ahead of Hawking, but what I enjoy watching is the modern scientific world gradually inch closer to ancient myth and science fiction.  I do get excited when I think of the implications for the future when we have mastered the quantum realm and it's amazing characteristics.  We will travel to the stars and have ether energy, but odds are that technology already exists.  The universe can cause amazing things to become reality and who knows what the future holds, but I am optimistic that we will soon be witness to something pretty amazing.  We are on the verge of something great I think.   

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2015, 09:57:06 PM
Now this is what bugs me about scientists :P

WHY can you not return? If a black hole wormhole can take you to another universe, why can there not be another one in that universe that takes you home?
That's what I like in scientists and what I do not like in most people, scientists, when talking about one thing, talk about it, not about something else.

In this case, if he was talking about the possible functioning of a black hole, saying that the possible wormhole travelling is one direction only obviously means that there's not going back through that black hole. It's the same thing as if he was talking about a water fall, you can go down in a barrel but you cannot go back up by the same method.

QuoteBesides  Sci Fi writers had this down pat decades ago :P
No, SciFi writers just use an idea, regardless of it being possible or not, scientists study the ideas to see if they are possible or not and why they are or aren't possible.

zorgon

That is where your way of thinking and my way of thinking are totally OPPOSITES :P

But new discoveries and frontiers are not made by your way of thinking :P

Arthur C. Clarke's Three Laws:

1)  When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2)  The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3)  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

zorgon

One of the first papers I put on Livingmoon...

Source: Northeastern University       Released: Thu 26-Jan-2006, 08:00 ET
South Pole Detector Could Yield Signs of Extra Dimensions


Researchers at Northeastern University and the University of California, Irvine say that scientists might soon have evidence for extra dimensions and other exotic predictions of string theory. Early results from a neutrino detector at the South Pole, called AMANDA, show that ghostlike particles from space could serve as probes to a world beyond our familiar three dimensions, the research team says.
No more than a dozen high-energy neutrinos have been detected so far. However, the current detection rate and energy range indicate that AMANDA's larger successor, called IceCube, now under construction, could provide the first evidence for string theory and other theories that attempt to build upon our current understanding of the universe.

An article describing this work appears in the current issue of Physical Review Letters. The authors are: Luis Anchordoqui, associate research scientist in the Physics Department at Northeastern University; Haim Goldberg, professor in the Physics Department at Northeastern University; and Jonathan Feng, associate professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at University of California, Irvine. The evidence, they say, would come from how neutrinos interact with other forms of matter on Earth.

"To find clues to support string theory and other bold, new theories, we need to study how matter interacts at extreme energies," said Anchordoqui. "Human-made particle accelerators on Earth cannot yet generate these energies, but nature can in the form of the highest-energy neutrinos."

In recent decades, new theories have developed – such as string theory, extra dimensions and supersymmetry – to bridge the gap between the two most successful theories of the 20th century, general relativity and quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics describes three of the fundamental forces of nature: electromagnetism, strong forces (binding atomic nuclei) and weak forces (seen in radioactivity). It is, however, incompatible with Einstein's general relativity, the leading description of the fourth force, gravity. Scientists hope to find one unified theory to provide a quantum description of all four forces.

Clues to unification, scientists say, lie at extreme energies. On Earth, human-made particle accelerators have already produced energies at which electromagnetic forces and weak forces are indistinguishable. Scientists have ideas about how the next generation of accelerators will reveal that strong forces are indistinguishable from the weak and electromagnetic at yet higher energies. Yet to probe deeper to see gravity's connection to the other three forces, still higher energies are needed.

Anchordoqui and his colleagues say that extragalactic sources can serve as the ultimate cosmic accelerator, and that neutrinos from these sources smacking into protons can release energies in the realm where the first clues to string theory could be revealed.

Neutrinos are elementary particles similar to electrons, but they are far less massive, have neutral charge, and hardly interact with matter. They are among the most abundant particles in the universe; untold billions pass through our bodies every second. Most of the neutrinos reaching Earth are lower-energy particles from the sun.

AMANDA, funded by the National Science Foundation, attempts to detect neutrinos raining down from above but also coming "up" through the Earth. Neutrinos are so weakly interacting that some can pass through the entire Earth unscathed. The total number of "down" and "up" neutrinos is uncertain; however, barring exotic effects, the relative detection rates are well known.

AMANDA detectors are positioned deep in the Antarctic ice. The NSF-funded IceCube has a similar design, only it has about six times more detectors covering a volume of one cubic kilometer. A neutrino smashing into atoms in the ice will emit a brief, telltale blue light; and using the detectors, scientists can determine the direction where the neutrino came from and its energy.

The key to the work presented here is that the scientists are comparing "down" to "up" detections and looking for discrepancies in the detection rate, evidence of an exotic effect predicted by new theories.

"String theory and other possibilities can distort the relative numbers of 'down' and 'up' neutrinos," said Jonathan Feng. "For example, extra dimensions may cause neutrinos to create microscopic black holes, which instantly evaporate and create spectacular showers of particles in the Earth's atmosphere and in the Antarctic ice cap. This increases the number of 'down' neutrinos detected. At the same time, the creation of black holes causes 'up' neutrinos to be caught in the Earth's crust, reducing the number of 'up' neutrinos. The relative 'up' and 'down' rates provide evidence for distortions in neutrino properties that are predicted by new theories."

"The neutrinos accelerated in the cosmos to energies unattainable on Earth can detect the 'footprint' of new physics," said Goldberg. "The 'body' responsible for the footprint can then emerge through complementary experiments at the new generation of human-made colliders. On all fronts, it is an exciting era in high-energy physics."

More information about AMANDA and IceCube is available at the IceCube website, http://www.icecube.wisc.edu.

About Northeastern: 
Northeastern University, located in the heart of Boston, Massachusetts, is a world leader in practice-oriented education and recognized for its expert faculty and first-rate academic and research facilities. Northeastern integrates challenging liberal arts and professional studies with the nation's largest cooperative education program. Through co-op, Northeastern undergraduates alternate semesters of full-time study with semesters of paid work in fields relevant to their professional interests and major, giving them nearly two years of professional experience upon graduation. The majority of Northeastern graduates receive a job offer from a co-op employer. Cited for excellence four years running by U.S. News & World Report, Northeastern has quickly moved up into the top tier rankings-an impressive 35 spots in four years. In addition, Northeastern was named a top college in the 2006 edition of the Princeton Review's annual "Best Colleges" issue. For more information, please visit http://www.northeastern.edu.

zorgon

Physicists Find Way To 'See' Extra Dimensions
Date:
February 4, 2007
Source:
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Summary:
Peering backward in time to an instant after the big bang, physicists at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have devised an approach that may help unlock the hidden shapes of alternate dimensions of the universe



A computer-generated rendering of a possible six-dimensional geometry similar to those studied by UW-Madison physicist Gary Shiu.
Credit: Image : courtesy Andrew J. Hanson, Indiana University


Peering backward in time to an instant after the big bang, physicists at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have devised an approach that may help unlock the hidden shapes of alternate dimensions of the universe.

A new study demonstrates that the shapes of extra dimensions can be "seen" by deciphering their influence on cosmic energy released by the violent birth of the universe 13 billion years ago. The method, published today (Feb. 2) in Physical Review Letters, provides evidence that physicists can use experimental data to discern the nature of these elusive dimensions - the existence of which is a critical but as yet unproven element of string theory, the leading contender for a unified "theory of everything."

Scientists developed string theory, which proposes that everything in the universe is made of tiny, vibrating strings of energy, to encompass the physical principles of all objects from immense galaxies to subatomic particles. Though currently the front-runner to explain the framework of the cosmos, the theory remains, to date, untested.

The mathematics of string theory suggests that the world we know is not complete. In addition to our four familiar dimensions - three-dimensional space and time - string theory predicts the existence of six extra spatial dimensions, "hidden" dimensions curled in tiny geometric shapes at every single point in our universe.

Don't worry if you can't picture a 10-dimensional world. Our minds are accustomed to only three spatial dimensions and lack a frame of reference for the other six, says UW-Madison physicist Gary Shiu, who led the new study. Though scientists use computers to visualize what these six-dimensional geometries could look like (see image), no one really knows for sure what shape they take.

The new Wisconsin work may provide a long-sought foundation for measuring this previously immeasurable aspect of string theory.

According to string theory mathematics, the extra dimensions could adopt any of tens of thousands of possible shapes, each shape theoretically corresponding to its own universe with its own set of physical laws.

For our universe, "Nature picked one - and we want to know what that one looks like," explains Henry Tye, a physicist at Cornell University who was not involved in the new research.

Shiu says the many-dimensional shapes are far too small to see or measure through any usual means of observation, which makes testing this crucial aspect of string theory very difficult. "You can theorize anything, but you have to be able to show it with experiments," he says. "Now the problem is, how do we test it?"

He and graduate student Bret Underwood turned to the sky for inspiration.

Their approach is based on the idea that the six tiny dimensions had their strongest influence on the universe when it itself was a tiny speck of highly compressed matter and energy - that is, in the instant just after the big bang.

"Our idea was to go back in time and see what happened back then," says Shiu. "Of course, we couldn't really go back in time."

Lacking the requisite time machine, they used the next-best thing: a map of cosmic energy released from the big bang. The energy, captured by satellites such as NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP), has persisted virtually unchanged for the last 13 billion years, making the energy map basically "a snapshot of the baby universe," Shiu says. The WMAP experiment is the successor to NASA's Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) project, which garnered the 2006 Nobel Prize in physics.

Just as a shadow can give an idea of the shape of an object, the pattern of cosmic energy in the sky can give an indication of the shape of the other six dimensions present, Shiu explains.

To learn how to read telltale signs of the six-dimensional geometry from the cosmic map, they worked backward. Starting with two different types of mathematically simple geometries, called warped throats, they calculated the predicted energy map that would be seen in the universe described by each shape. When they compared the two maps, they found small but significant differences between them.

Their results show that specific patterns of cosmic energy can hold clues to the geometry of the six-dimensional shape - the first type of observable data to demonstrate such promise, says Tye.

Though the current data are not precise enough to compare their findings to our universe, upcoming experiments such as the European Space Agency's Planck satellite should have the sensitivity to detect subtle variations between different geometries, Shiu says.

"Our results with simple, well-understood shapes give proof of concept that the geometry of hidden dimensions can be deciphered from the pattern of cosmic energy," he says. "This provides a rare opportunity in which string theory can be tested."

Technological improvements to capture more detailed cosmic maps should help narrow down the possibilities and may allow scientists to crack the code of the cosmic energy map - and inch closer to identifying the single geometry that fits our universe.

The implications of such a possibility are profound, says Tye. "If this shape can be measured, it would also tell us that string theory is correct."

The new work was funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, the U.S. Department of Energy, and the Research Corp.

Story Source:

The above post is reprinted from materials provided by University of Wisconsin-Madison. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070203103355.htm

ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on August 30, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
That is where your way of thinking and my way of thinking are totally OPPOSITES :P
But that's a good thing, as having people with opposing ways of thinking looking at some problem is the best way of solving it. :)

QuoteBut new discoveries and frontiers are not made by your way of thinking :P
Maybe, but it's the way of thinking that does the work to see if the discoveries are real or not. :)

COSMO



One thing to keep in mind when we are talking about hyperdimensional manifolds and string theory is that the extra dimensions they describe are at the subatomic scale.  A black hole would produce a dimensional extension on the cosmic scale, so not a local extra dimension, but another volume of space time, another universe. 

I do think that each type of subatomic spin is represented by another subatomic spacial dimension and that the various types of spin are determined by the unique geometry of each of those subatomic dimensions.  I like to think that is just the way the creator does things. 



Maybe it's possible that we can be inspired by things beyond our immediate point in time, something similar to Sarfatti's future quantum radiation theory.  I like to think so.  Maybe this creative energy finds it way to people like science fiction writers and ancient sages.  How many scientists have been inspired by science fiction?  Maybe inspiration is the mother of invention?   :)

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Cosmic Search Casts Doubts on Our Understanding of Galaxies and Black Holes

After monitoring 24 pulsars with the Parkes Radio Telescope for 11 years, new research casts doubt on our understanding of galaxies and black holes.

For scientists gravitational waves exert a powerful appeal, as it is believed they carry information allowing us to look back into the very beginnings of the Universe. Although there is strong circumstantial evidence for their existence, they have not yet been directly detected.

The work, led by Dr Ryan Shannon (of CSIRO and the International Center for Radio Astronomy Research), is published in the journal Science.

Using Parkes, the scientists expected to detect a background 'rumble' of the waves, coming from the merging galaxies throughout the Universe, but they weren't there.

The world-first research has caused scientists to think about the Universe in a different way.

"This is probably the most comprehensive, high precision science that's ever been undertaken in this field of astronomy," Dr Shannon said.

"By pushing ourselves to the limits required for this sort of cosmic search we're moving into new frontiers in all areas of physics, forcing ourselves to understand how galaxies and black holes work."

The fact that gravitational waves weren't detected goes against all theoretical calculations and throws our current understanding of black holes into question.

Galaxies grow by merging and every large one is thought to have a supermassive black hole at its heart. When two galaxies unite, the black holes are drawn together and form an orbiting pair. At this point, Einstein's theory is expected to take hold, with the pair predicted to succumb to a death spiral, sending ripples known as gravitational waves through space-time, the very fabric of the Universe.




The lack of gravity waves can be explained if there is not a distortion of space-time as is currently accepted by science, but instead, gravity is being caused by a flow of the ETHER.  Yes, I think that is it exactly.  Not a distortion of space-time, but a flow of superfluidic ETHER.     

Cosmo

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Gravity's Rainbow

Could scientists soon discover a parallel universe? New data from the extra powerful Large Hadron Collider is being analysed
'Atom smasher' at Cern, Geneva is turned up to its highest level
This means it could detect miniature black holes - a sign of a 'multiverse'
Ongoing experiment at the LHC could shed new light on the universe

'Just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects (breath and length) can exist in a third dimension (height), parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions' Cern employee Mir Faizal from the University of Waterloo told Dailymail.com.

'We predict that gravity can leak into extra dimensions, and if it does, then miniature black holes can be produced at the LHC.'

He said: 'Normally, when people think of the multiverse, they think of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, where every possibility is actualised.

'This cannot be tested and so it is philosophy and not science.

'This is not what we mean by parallel universes.

'What we mean is real universes in extra dimensions,' ZME Science reported.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3280977/Are-scientists-discover-parallel-universe-Large-Hadron-Collider-powered-incredible-experiment.html

So...gravity LEAKING into other dimensions producing black holes? 
We've been taught that gravity is a DISTORTION of the FABRIC of space-time.
A solid, or a fabric does not LEAK.  A FLUID leaks. 

GRVAITY is the result of space-time(SUPERFLUIDIC ETHER!) FLOWING into subatomic black holes.  Every black hole is an extension of space-time, producing another volume of space-time, a new universe. 

Gravity is a flow.  Inertia is a wave. 

Cosmo
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Well...How did I get here?