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Started by COSMO, May 29, 2014, 12:55:03 PM

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astr0144

so the electrode system clock ionises the air..for a 9 hr time period AFTER the magnetetic clock had gone off..

is this a 12 hr  or 24 hr eg... I assume 12 hr..

if so ..then the magnet clock then comes on again 3 hrs after the electrode clock finished...for 9 hrs until 12 midnight.

when it does it..the magnet reacts to the ionised air creating pulses..

you then look to speed the processes up so you get  faster reactions..

and theres a gap in time between the two to allow the magnet field to go on and off to allow movement within  the ionised surroundings..



QuoteThink of the two systems as two clocks.the electrode clock comes on from midnight and doesnt turn off  until nine

The magnetic clock comes on at three and goes off at midnight.



QuoteWhat this does is ionize the air and then the magnet pulse the ions.
Now speed those two clocks up as fast as you can but perfectly in time.

If the electrode clock didnt go off then only one gulp of food\air would be ionized
,if the magnet coil didnt turn off then the gulp wouldnt complete and the air \food would be stuck in your throat\magnetic field.

COSMO

Wow robo, sounds like you have been busy!  It would be great to see your work in more detail.  Would you consider doing a thread on it?  If so, that would be awesome!

It reminds me of this:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8992.0

Füzfa describes the experiments, which he assures do not tap into the principles of 'new physics.'

In the first setup, large, stacked superconducting coils are used to generate an artificial gravitational field.

The second experiment detects the field through highly sensitive interferometers, which contain light-storing cavities in the arms.

The experiments so far have shown, weakly, that artificial fields generated by electric currents can be detected through a change in 'space-time geometry.'

The scientist writes that the effect is a result of the equivalence principle.

The experiment would require major resources, but if successful, it would give humans the power to control the 'last of four fundamental forces,' not within our grips.


In his article, Füzfa has proposed, with supporting mathematical proof, a device with
which to create detectable gravitational fields. This device is based on superconducting
electromagnets
and therefore relies on technologies routinely used, for example, at CERN or
the ITER reactor.

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Sinny

Quote from: A51Watcher on February 15, 2016, 07:19:16 AM
Not at all, very sharp question actually.

Correct.


We can observe gravity B distortion by viewing the skies and noting distorted views of galaxies, known as gravity lensing.

Gravity A distortion can only be seen at this point by viewing gravity propulsion craft in action.


In both cases it is not gravity that is distorted. The title is a bit misleading isn't it.

It is instead a case of gravity distorting space and time, and those are the effects that we note.


So a gravity distortion field is comprised of space/time distortion.

Thanks for this..

I too entertained Cosmo's theory that space/time = gravity.
If it's not gravity.. what else could it be?
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

robomont

Lmao,fuzfa is putting the squeeze on the big dogs.
Its him saying i know and i want money.i know the feeling.
Hes just rebending bent light.and recoloring the light.back to its origin.
cool idea but bites at the martians heels.
Imho

ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

COSMO

Quote from: Sinny on February 16, 2016, 01:11:33 AM
Thanks for this..

I too entertained Cosmo's theory that space/time = gravity.
If it's not gravity.. what else could it be?

It's similar to Sakharov's radiation gravity theory from a llllooonnnnggggg time ago.  Another idea that was passed by...or was it?  It just represents the zero point field, or the energy of the very fabric of space time.  It is Tesla's dynamic gravity.  Even though it is invisible and we can only detect it by it's gravitational effect, there is a medium that fills space, provides positive radiation pressure and is responsible for gravity.  To call it by all of the various names is to describe the elephant one part at at time.  It is the ETHER. 

Here Brandenburg talks about Sakharov:

Pure EM (Electro-Magnetic) Propulsion and Theories of
Gravity-EM Unification
J.E. Brandenburg1
Orbital Technologies Corporation
Madison, Wisconsin, 53717, USA
The general problem of the unification of gravity and electro-magnetism is discussed in
the context of finding a path to practical, pure EM propulsion. Present methods of pure
EM propulsion, where the spacecraft is propelled by EM radiation pressure suffer from very
weak thrust per unit power. To improve on this gravity-EM unification must be
accomplished. It is found that Sakharov's approach where gravity is due to EM radiation
pressure from the quantum ZPF (zero point fluctuation) is based on solid physical insights
but requires all particles to be charged and further that the particles be held together by
gravitational forces at the Planck scale in order to satisfy the Equivalence Principle. When
this is achieved a "Vacuum Bernoulli Equation" is recovered that is similar to that found in
the GEM theory of unification. This equation suggests that gravity modification and
practical pure EM propulsion by human produced EM fields is possible.


http://www.enu.kz/repository/2010/AIAA-2010-1610.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0204062

Sakharov's induced gravity:

Induced gravity (or emergent gravity) is an idea in quantum gravity that space-time curvature and its dynamics emerge as a mean field approximation of underlying microscopic degrees of freedom, similar to the fluid mechanics approximation of Bose–Einstein condensates. The concept was originally proposed by Andrei Sakharov in 1967.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_gravity


Sakharov
A Bose-Einstein condensate is a SUPER FLUID by the way!!!!!!  The ETHER is a Superfluid.

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Littleenki

Peering into space and seeing what is often proposed as bending light, or light bent by gravitational waves, can be rather satisfying and simple.

But one also has to consider the unseen, densities...the what..or even...who, within Cosmo's superfluid.

So, what is the relative "matter" density in the place where the light is said to bend?

Is gravity a differential in Ether density?

Did Einstein consider ALL the features of the space we peer into, which may seem to cause light to "bend"?

Such as other forms of life, matter, or material densified within the Superfluid which cannot be observed with human senses?

Seems to me, a wormhole in the center of any galaxy would send a discussion into the realms of Implosion or Fluid sciences, before attempts at explaining it within any other way.

Doesnt a vortex attain infinite velocity against it's inner wall?

Can infinite centripetal angular momentum be the answer to gravity, and creation/annihilation of life?

To us, we see a point, but the wormhole itself would be massive in scale once inside.

It would seem to me a wormhole would be a perfect candidate for such a center of activity in any galaxy.
And the other end of a wormhole as such, would be one people's creation, and another's annihilation.

Breathing...in and out.

Cheers

Hermetically sealed, for your protection

robomont

Without stepping on toes,no i do not think there is a worm hole anywhere.
There are bubbles and traveling bubbles.they are plasma shielded just as earth is plasma shielded.
And ufos are plasma shielded.
As i said,still falls back to being mhd.
The whole universe,mhd.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

astr0144

Hi Robo,

In ref to some of your comments in our discussion..

when you mention about the two clocks. Am I right in you are referring to a 12 hr clock and not a 24 hr one ?

I sort of get a bit confused....when you refer to midnight if its just a 12 hr clock.. then have one(Electode) ending 9 hrs later and the other (Magnetic)starting 9 hrs before

as to whether you go 9 hrs after mid night on the electrode clock... and start the magnetic clock 9 hrs before midnight..

but we have a 3 am in the morning occur 3 hrs after midnight..

and if the other one (Magnetic Clock) starts 9 hrs before  is that like 3 pm...in the afternoon ?

or is the magnetic clock if its like on a 12 hr basis say mid day to mid night... 12 pm to 12 am or 12 am to 12 pm depending when one starts..

in that eg is the magnetic clock starting 3 hrs after midnight ?

if so then the electrode clock will be operating with the magnetic clock together between 3 am to 9 am..ie for 6 hrs..

if it was a 24 hr clock and we had 9 am to end the electrode clock  and then we started the magnetic clock at 3 pm... then the clocks have a 6 hr period when none of them are operating ie between 9 am and 3 pm...


so in this eg I assume we can have 12 separate hours... start at Zero to 1 up to 12.... being midnight.

and if so.. you refer one (Electrode Clock )running from mid night to I assume like 9 am...so thats for 9 hrs..

and you refer to the other (Magnetic Clock) running from I assume 3 oclock... thats 9 hr before midnight..



then when you refer to the magnet solenoid and electrode being 90 degrees out of phase...

is this like if one looks on an oscilloscope where we see wave form...

or physically that the two objects are at right angles to each other ie 90 degrees apart.

I assume you mean the sinewave  formation is 90 degrees out of phase..

but why 90 degrees ?

is this to allow a 10 % differential in their operation to allow like an on off situation between the ions / ionization of the air reacting that allows gravity effect to occur...

QuoteThink in your mind of a top electrode and a bottom electrode.

Put a verticle solenoid in the center.

the electrodes can run no higher than 10,000volts dc...Pulse it as fast as you can.

Pulse the solenoid as fast as you can with as high a voltage and current as you can,
have the electrodes and magnetic solenoid 90 °s out of phase of each other.with electrodes firing first


Quote from: robomont on February 15, 2016, 10:07:56 AM
Think of the two systems as two clocks.the electrode clock comes on from midnight and doesnt turn off  until nine

The magnetic clock comes on at three and goes off at midnight.

What this does is ionize the air and then the magnet pulse the ions.
Now speed those two clocks up as fast as you can but perfectly in time.

If the electrode clock didnt go off then only one gulp of food\air would be ionized
,if the magnet coil didnt turn off then the gulp wouldnt complete and the air \food would be stuck in your throat\magnetic field.

A51Watcher

Quote from: Sinny on February 16, 2016, 01:11:33 AM
Thanks for this..

I too entertained Cosmo's theory that space/time = gravity.
If it's not gravity.. what else could it be?

re: Gravity B - Lots of images of gravity lensing on galaxies found on google as well as atomic clocks left at different heights.

re: Gravity A (amplified to a large scale where it performs the same functions that it normally does on a molecular or atomic level)

As I said the only way to view the distortion field caused by gravity A is to view craft in action at Area 51.

With that in mind let's take a look at these craft being aware of the distortion lens between us and the craft, as well as the electrical discharge and resulting plasma glow enveloping the craft.

The continuous downward moving waves seen at 4:06 we must surmise at this point as being pulsed gravity waves that are being sent down to counteract the Earth's gravity waves.




     


I would say the motion of those waves at 4:06 appear to be rather elastic (much like magnetic waves) with a rather 'fluid' motion to them like passing through water almost.

Perhaps the ether Cosmo refers to.

   

COSMO

Nice Watcher.  Thanks.  I also check out Lazar's interview on the aliens and heard some things that were new to me.  The "wave guide" statement for one.  Interesting. 



Cosmo

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

Hawking: Gravitational Waves Could Revolutionize Astronomy

As is becoming clear, the direct detection of these ripples in spacetime not only confirm Einstein's famous theory of general relativity, they open our eyes to a previously "dark" universe. Astronomy uses the electromagnetic spectrum (such as visible light, X-rays, infrared) to study the universe, but objects that do not radiate in the electromagnetic spectrum will go unnoticed. But now we know how to detect gravitational waves, there could be a paradigm shift in how we detect and study some of the most energetic cosmic phenomena.

"Gravitational waves provide a completely new way of looking at the universe," said Hawking. "The ability to detect them has the potential to revolutionize astronomy."

"This discovery also presents a puzzle for astrophysicists," said Hawking. "The mass of each of the black holes are larger than expected for those formed by the gravitational collapse of a star — so how did both of these black holes become so massive?"

This question touches on one of the biggest mysteries surrounding black hole evolution. Currently, astronomers are having a hard time understanding how black holes grow to be so massive. On the one end of the scale, there are "stellar mass" black holes that form immediately after a massive star goes supernova and we also have an abundance of evidence for the existence of the supermassive behemoths that live in the centers of most galaxies. There is a disconnect, however.

If black holes grow by merging and consuming stellar matter, there should be evidence of black holes of all sizes. But "intermediate mass" black holes and black holes of a few dozen solar masses are astonishingly rare, throwing some black hole evolution theories into doubt.


http://www.space.com/31960-hawking-gravitational-waves-could-revolutionize-astronomy.html#sthash.69Qe5YI0.dpuf



How do black holes grow to be so massive?  It is because they are spatial extension of ETHER and their size is limited by the "resistance" of the true vacuum.  Just like blowing up a balloon.  There is air pressure on the outside and it takes a certain amount to reach the expansion limit that exists in the multiverse.  Again, it is all determined by the "resistance" of the TRUE VACUUM and the stress limits of our space time bubble before "leakage" occurs.  That is the missing part of black hole evolution and it is what is the determining factor in the multiverse expansion and the formation of black holes.  It is always about the primary medium first.

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

If You Fall Into a Black Hole, There's Only One Way to Survive

But if you do ever find yourself near a black hole, there may be a shred of good news — that is, if it's spinning rather than stationary. New research published in the journal Physical Review D suggests that you might be able to survive the inside of a spinning black hole.

A team of researchers figured this out by creating the first-ever computer model of a quickly spinning black hole, called a Kerr black hole.

"It has often been assumed that objects approaching a black hole are crushed by the increasing gravity," Lior Burko, a physicist who worked on the research, said in a press release. "However, we found that while gravitational forces increase and become infinite, they do so fast enough that their interaction allows physical objects to stay intact as they move toward the center of the black hole."

So if your black hole is spinning fast enough, you might just live to tell the tale.

What's more, the researchers say, this lends some small credence to the science-fiction idea that black holes could act as a portal or wormhole for interstellar travel.


http://news.yahoo.com/fall-black-hole-theres-only-181400175.html?nf=1

Exactly!  There is matter in this universe OLDER than this universe.  And they DO spin!  Torsion, fluid dynamics.  lol

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Littleenki

All one has to do to understand a black hole, or space vortex, is observe a forest stream, and the eddies and whirlpools which form among the seemingly peaceful water as it flows towards its end.

On the note that a spinning fluid vortex is a black hole itself, when the tiny vortex spins itself out in the stream, where does all the matter it has captured go?

It dissipates back into the stream.

So, why should we think of a black hole any differently, when we see our universe is a place of pure fractality, it stands to reason, when a black hole reaches its end of existence, it should just spew all its captured matter back into space as it exhausts itself...just like the tiny whirlpool in the stream.

No ripping apart of mass, no disintegrating of matter, just a point where it all bottles up until the physics of the vortex is unable to sustain itself, and subsequently it ceases to exist.

So, if the matter does enter the black hole, does it compress together at the bottom, awaiting the black hole's end, or does it transfer through into another dimension or plane of existence?
What do we see happening in the stream when a vortex dissipates?
Same thing, right?

Ask the water, it has all the answers.

Cheers
Hermetically sealed, for your protection

COSMO

Quote from: Littleenki on February 18, 2016, 03:47:47 PM
All one has to do to understand a black hole, or space vortex, is observe a forest stream, and the eddies and whirlpools which form among the seemingly peaceful water as it flows towards its end.

On the note that a spinning fluid vortex is a black hole itself, when the tiny vortex spins itself out in the stream, where does all the matter it has captured go?

It dissipates back into the stream.

So, why should we think of a black hole any differently, when we see our universe is a place of pure fractality, it stands to reason, when a black hole reaches its end of existence, it should just spew all its captured matter back into space as it exhausts itself...just like the tiny whirlpool in the stream.

No ripping apart of mass, no disintegrating of matter, just a point where it all bottles up until the physics of the vortex is unable to sustain itself, and subsequently it ceases to exist.

So, if the matter does enter the black hole, does it compress together at the bottom, awaiting the black hole's end, or does it transfer through into another dimension or plane of existence?
What do we see happening in the stream when a vortex dissipates?
Same thing, right?

Ask the water, it has all the answers.

Cheers

Wonderful!  Exactly Dave.  I can see you are enjoying Schauberger!   :)

He also understand that the workings of nature DID NOT STOP with water!  As above, so below! 

Cheers!

Swimming in the Cosmic Ocean
skyfish
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

A51Watcher

Quote from: COSMO on February 17, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
Nice Watcher.  Thanks.  I also check out Lazar's interview on the aliens and heard some things that were new to me.  The "wave guide" statement for one.  Interesting. 



Cosmo

Sure. And yes the wave guides he said were similar to microwave technology.

Robo has experience in that area.

Bob has also mentioned that gravity does indeed have a specific frequency, which can be determined by measuring the length of the wave guides.

He didn't mention the exact frequency he said because he has a few patents pending regarding that frequency.