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Roswell UFO Crash: There Were 2 Crashes, Not 1, Says Ex-Air Force Official

Started by A51Watcher, June 02, 2014, 06:37:27 AM

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Sinny

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The Seeker

Quote from: Sinny on June 02, 2014, 03:30:37 PM
More lies I suspect..
That is the whole point, to examine, research, and explore... 8)

the tale has been told for many years of a second crash at Corona... 8)


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IamSylas

I just love how they laugh in this video :)



It is almost sarcastic ....


eta: I fixed the 'invalid youtube link' for ya Sylas.

All you need to insert is the code after v=

in the yt link.


...also it is helpful to our members on smart phones to also include the entire link via the hyperlink button -





A51







deuem

I'm gonna go with 5, 2 balloons and at least 1 dead cow and 3 turtles from the Bundy Ranch for luck.

A51Watcher

Quote from: Sinny on June 02, 2014, 03:30:37 PM
More lies I suspect..


That's quite a cryptic reply Sinny.

I'd like to know what you base that assessment on.

Do you have evidence of previous lies from Lt. Col. French?




As Seeker pointed out, we have had evidence of a 2nd crash for quite some time now.

A 2nd crash scenario also helps square the difference in details provided by eye witness accounts from then.


In the early days of Roswell research, it seemed to us that the witnesses almost seemed to be talking about 2 entirely different crashes.

And later witness accounts appeared to fall into one of the two events, and matched the details of one or the other. 
 

All of this occurred before the books were published.




A51Watcher


There is even evidence to suggest a 3rd craft via a FBI FOIA document -





Note the reference once again to radar as being the culprit.








IamSylas

Quote from: IamSylas on June 02, 2014, 06:01:46 PM

eta: I fixed the 'invalid youtube link' for ya Sylas.

All you need to insert is the code after v=

in the yt link.


...also it is helpful to our members on smart phones to also include the entire link via the hyperlink button -







A51

Dude thanks for the info :) I'll do that next time...

Sgt.Rocknroll

Spoke with Denice last night and she talked about a scientist that works at the Roswell military school. She said he finds artifacts out in the debris field to this day. His name is Frank Kembler.


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A51Watcher



"Col. Corso tells of a UFO that was brought down by a military radar station that locked on to the UFO and increased the strength of the radar signal, causing the UFO to lose control and crash."



Col. Corso -

"Our radar upset their plans and we moved full speed ahead from the knoweledge gained from their equipment which we catptured."

"They have aboard sensors that react to radar surveillance."

"...we surmised that possibly radar caused the Roswell crash..."

"In my mind had been embedded that radar caused loss of control and the crash."







A51Watcher

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 02, 2014, 10:53:05 PM
Spoke with Denice last night and she talked about a scientist that works at the Roswell military school. She said he finds artifacts out in the debris field to this day. His name is Frank Kembler.


:o

Any memory foil yet?



Sgt.Rocknroll

All she said that she met him last year and hope to talk to him some more. She is a member here and she said she logged in last night but not too familiar with forums. I'll try to get her back on.
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The Seeker

I want to add this from the Huffpost article in the op:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/roswell-ufo-crash_n_1715663.html

Quote"There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know," French told HuffPost. "The first one was shot down by an experimental U.S. airplane that was flying out of White Sands, N.M., and it shot what was effectively an electronic pulse-type weapon that disabled and took away all the controls of the UFO, and that's why it crashed."

French -- an Air Force pilot who was in Alamagordo, N.M., in 1947, being tested in an altitude chamber, an annual requirement for rated officers -- was very specific in how the military allegedly brought down what he believes was a spacecraft from another world.

"When they hit it with that electromagnetic pulse -- bingo! -- there goes all their electronics and, consequently, the UFO was uncontrollable," said French, who flew hundreds of combat missions in Korea and Southeast Asia, and who held several positions working for Military Intelligence.

The reason I want to use this quote from the article is because Boyd Bushman said the same exact thing in a video interview.

Mr Bushman knew the pilot flying the experimental plane and the new weapon system that was used; he did not reveal the identity of the pilot other than to refer to him as the "doctor."

Coincedence? synchronicity? call it what you will...

I say very interesting...


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A51Watcher

As I recall, one of the radar technicians at White Sands stated that during a flyover of a formation of discs at the base,

"It was noticed that the radar beam appeared to cause a slight deviation in one of the discs flight path..."


This would be BIG news for the generals at the Pentagon.

They of course would order the production of the biggest most powerful models of these new monopulse microwave radars that could possibly be built, in order to see just how much  'deviation' in a discs flight path could be achieved!


Now consider for a moment the often reported occurrence of UFO's proximity to automobiles interfering with and shutting down cars ignition, radio and headlights.

Since it is doubtful aliens took the time to create weapons of interference with automobiles operating systems, we can assume this interference can be taken as a sign of some of these crafts advanced systems operating in the same EM spectrum as our own primitive systems.

Any navigation system using a microwave look ahead radar to avoid mountains and trees in it's path could indeed be forced into a malfunction with false radar information being fed into it's inputs.

Apparently Nike Missle company produced 50 'modified' SCR-584's ostensibly for their missile program.

No word on what these modifications were.


The new Monopulse radar was a powerful focused beam approach, as opposed to the previous weak scattershot wide beam approach.




The Seeker

Indeed, A51, I recall reading all that material on the radar issue many times, recall Phil Corso's statements in his book; it just struck me after watching Bushman make that statement to David Serada a day or so ago ( the clip was recorded in '09, I think} that today I read the same statement in that article attributed to Lt Col French...

one does have to  wonder just a tad... 8)


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