Did Apollo 11 have a fourth astronaut?

[onetruekeeper]

I read the Seth Early Sessions by Jane Roberts and Robert F. Butts, a nine volume set someone gave me as a present a while back.
In one of the volumes, Seth, who is a non-physical entity that speaks through Jane Roberts when she goes into a trance like state gave more details of the visions which Jane Roberts or Robert F. Butts ( husband of Jane Roberts )  saw of the Apollo 11 moon mission where one of the astronauts was seen laying face down on the lunar surface and had mysteriously died.
But all three astronauts made it back to earth safely. So if the vision was an accurate account of what happened on the moon then there must have been a fourth astronaut that went to the moon with the other three.
Was he hiding in the lunar module and why was his mission supposed to be kept secret from the public?  If the lunar module was designed for only two astronauts then did Neil Armstrong really go to the lunar surface or did he remain aboard the command module with Collins while  Aldrin and the mystery astronaut went down to the moon?
Was there already some sort of habitat set up at the landing site for the fourth astronaut to remain on the moon until the next mission when he would be relieved by another mystery astronaut?  Could there have been some E.T. artifacts  which were detected there which was the reason for going to the moon?

[VillageIdiot]

Have you seen the size of these capsules? There's no room for a fourth guy. There's barely room for three.

Debunked.

[Sinny]

I think the missions a we know them are a complete hoax.
(Watch the movie Capricorn One)

I also think there are 'secret' cosmonauts, just as the Russians had.

Also, I believe Seth and most 'channeled' beings to be deceiving spirits or works of the CIA.

If that interests you, lemme know.

[onetruekeeper]

Have you seen the size of these capsules? There's no room for a fourth guy. There's barely room for three.

Debunked.

I suggested that the fourth guy was perhaps in the lunar module, not the command module as you suggest.

[onetruekeeper]

I think the missions a we know them are a complete hoax.
(Watch the movie Capricorn One)

I also think there are 'secret' cosmonauts, just as the Russians had.

Also, I believe Seth and most 'channeled' beings to be deceiving spirits or works of the CIA.

If that interests you, lemme know.

Yeah, I saw that movie too...but the idea of going all the way to Mars in such a puny spacecraft is a claustrophobic's nightmare...LOL

[VillageIdiot]

I suggested that the fourth guy was perhaps in the lunar module, not the command module as you suggest.

Do you believe everything you read?

I'm bipolar. The devil and my dead dad talk to me regularly. That doesn't mean I believe what they tell me.

[onetruekeeper]

You should try it before you knock it as the saying goes.
Give the Seth books a try. The information and ideas contained in them are astonishing in my opinion.

[VillageIdiot]

You should try it before you knock it as the saying goes.
Give the Seth books a try. The information and ideas contained in them are astonishing in my opinion.

Nevermind. I'm crabby today. Forgive me.

[Sinny]

Do you believe everything you read?

I'm bipolar. The devil and my dead dad talk to me regularly. That doesn't mean I believe what they tell me.

There's a strong possibility that I'm bipolar - I don't believe in labels, but apparently my associates do aha.

I think the devil whispers in mine ear - but dead folk don't lolol.

[Sinny]

You should try it before you knock it as the saying goes.
Give the Seth books a try. The information and ideas contained in them are astonishing in my opinion.

If you go to the Alien and UFO section of this forum and go to the 'Contacts' sub-section, you will see my threads on the Law of One and the Pheonix Journals..

Your right, these texts are astonishing -

However, I've come to learn ALL these texts have an esoteric agenda.

[Sinny]

Further note just to add that if you found Seth to be amazeballs - you will certainly appreciate the Law of One, if you go to Youtube, all 5 books have been converted into audio - took me 6 months to absorb.

And admittedly I have to say that they were the most tranquil 6 months of my life.

Since then, I'm currently stuck between Christian Doctrines, IE the Bible, and what we would deem as the 'New Age'.

The Law of One provided me peace far much more than that of the Bible.

Having said that, a lot of Occultists and New Agers have become 'born again' Christians and provide their testimony that these doctrines have been false the whole while, and only lead to destruction.

*Having said that*, I also have a major issue with the Christian God in the sense that I didn't ask to be born with 'orginal sin' and he fooked up in all his creations causing the hell I experience today.

I have been pleading with Christians to help me understand this... And yet the answer I still seek.

Happy hunting.

[onetruekeeper]

If you go to the Alien and UFO section of this forum and go to the 'Contacts' sub-section, you will see my threads on the Law of One and the Pheonix Journals..

Your right, these texts are astonishing -

However, I've come to learn ALL these texts have an esoteric agenda.

Ahh..them Phoenix Journals.
I recall going to the occult bookstores back in the eighties to get copies of them.
They were recommended by a former Air Force intel officer that I knew as good reading, possibly true in many cases.
Although after reading a lot of em I suspected them of being mostly dis-information.

[Pimander]

*Having said that*, I also have a major issue with the Christian God in the sense that I didn't ask to be born with 'orginal sin' and he fooked up in all his creations causing the hell I experience today.

I have been pleading with Christians to help me understand this... And yet the answer I still seek.

Yeah, it really makes sense doesn't it?

[onetruekeeper]

The Law of One, Christianity and other esoteric belief systems...I have been down that road already .
For me anyway it is a deserted bleak highway going nowhere.
The only thing I am certain of is that I exist.
Everything else is just speculation.

[The Seeker]

Let's see if we can get back on the topic at hand concerning the 4th astronaut...

the tale has been around that there was a fourth member killed in the Apollo 1 capsule fire...

also if you read Jack Arneson's files you will see where a cargo shipment was sent to the moon before Apollo 11, launched from Kwajelien Atoll...


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