The Hills of Apollo - An Enigma

[ArMaP]

The Root of 'Division' and 'Conflict' stems from the 'Double Logic' within the human Genome.

Some religious Institutions refer to this 'Double Logic' as either 'the Mark of the Beast'
or the Number (666)   

According to The Books of E'NOCH the other species on earth were also made corrupt by a minority NOT of the Earth.!   

Most can't accept that the 'beast' (a beast of the Field) IS the 'human Primate'.   

I don't see any connection with this topic, could you please explain it?
Thanks in advance.

[zorgon]

I look for the positive things, but instead of publicizing them as positive things (unless I see a need for that, which means that's probably the result of some negative thing I see) I think "good, that's taken care of, what should we try to make better now" and start looking for the negative (or less positive) things that need to be looked into or, at least, made noticed by those that can do something about it.

That is very 'Christian" of you 

behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples; not of their own accord, but by the invitation of Matthew, and with the good will, and full consent of Christ, who was far from being displeased with their company and freedom; but gladly embraced every opportunity of doing good to the souls of the worst of men; for such as these he came to call and save.

Seems mankind has been ignoring the good while pointing out the bad and trying to fix it for a few thousand years...

In this way the good deeds of Man (the vast majority) get no mention and little reward because it is expected... while the bad deeds make the Evening News   

[The Matrix Traveller]

I don't see any connection with this topic, could you please explain it?
Thanks in advance.

It has everything to do with 'human reason' or Beliefs , the subject is based on.

The 'Opposing' beliefs are the result of 'Double Logic', within the human Genome.

It is the Root cause of 'Conflict' .

[ArMaP]

Seems mankind has been ignoring the good while pointing out the bad and trying to fix it for a few thousand years...

As a programmer I'm very good at debugging, so I suppose I try to "debug" everything I see.

[ArMaP]

It has everything to do with 'human reason' or Beliefs , the subject is based on.

Almost everything we post is based on beliefs, by that logic (double or single) you could copy your post to all threads.

[spacemaverick]

Seems mankind has been ignoring the good while pointing out the bad and trying to fix it for a few thousand years...

In this way the good deeds of Man (the vast majority) get no mention and little reward because it is expected... while the bad deeds make the Evening News

A quote from you Zorgon...I agree...at least 2 forums in which I actively participate I have tried to start a positive thread with good news..articles of people doing good things and the like.  Absolutely no participation or very little.  I came to realize that we become involved in things that will not be solved due to human nature being as it is.  I can only present a point of view...I can't force someone to accept it.  I don't argue a point for the sake of arguing and I try not to nit pick.  Just a waste of time.  There are a lot of good things being done by good people no matter their station in life...but most people do not want to hear it...a shame indeed.

This thread deals with an enigma regarding moon pictures from Apollo and these arguments or opinions are just that.  Yes there were probably things that were faked but look at all the good people who had pure motives in the space race...sacrifices made by test pilots...hours put in by technicians and so on.  These are never mentioned.

Yes I wonder how much is faked and who did it but can it be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  Probably not but it is interesting to analyze.  I cannot prove or disprove whether we went to the moon or not.  So much information and disinformation....

[zorgon]

There are a lot of good things being done by good people no matter their station in life...but most people do not want to hear it...a shame indeed.

Well ONE reason is because those that DO are busy DOING... while those that DO NOT are busy whining about everything in forums   

I have come to realize that the vast majority of people come to forums not to learn or seek any truth... but because they have nothing better to do and need to know they are not alone in their misery



The fact that we have so few members posting positive information is proof enough that I am correct.

Time to get back to basics and focus on the website. That is where the DOERS read our material   

This thread deals with an enigma regarding moon pictures from Apollo and these arguments or opinions are just that.  Yes there were probably things that were faked but look at all the good people who had pure motives in the space race...sacrifices made by test pilots...hours put in by technicians and so on.  These are never mentioned.

True enough but don't forget that Uber Skeptic ArMap even had issues with the Hills of Apollo in his mind. He may not believe it's all a hoax but his mind is telling him SOMETHING is not right. He even has a few good anomalies that give him pause.

So if even the skeptics scratch their head from time to time, that is a good sign SOMETHING is wrong

Yes I wonder how much is faked and who did it but can it be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  Probably not but it is interesting to analyze.  I cannot prove or disprove whether we went to the moon or not.  So much information and disinformation....

That is the problem... I have so much information that is contradictory. I can "prove" we DIDN'T go, I can "prove" we DID go. I am positive we went BEFORE Apollo, etc etc.

I could brush it all off as Conspiracy Theory with no basis in reality...

except that EVERYTIME my mind goes in that direction SOMEONE "In the know" contacts me and says "You might be interested in THIS" and attaches a file or a link or a hint or all of the above. That person can always be traced to an official source and the links etc ALWAYS pan out and lead me to many REAL doors

When you get a skeptic like IgnoreTheFacts at ATS that for years hounds you (like he did John and myself) then one day writes you saying "Your 90% right about your secret astronaut material" and you get an email from a guy at Vandeberg who IS one of those secret astronauts (21SOPS) telling you your info is out of date and offers to help you upgrade it... when you get NASA people contacting you and saying your Moon picture is the best they have ever seen, buying Bob Lazar/John Lear tapes and purusing (and advertising on) the website... when the Military sends watchers (and even knocks on the door), then feeds you info, increases your access to dot mil sites and buys advertising on the Stargate pages...

...you then have no choice but to believe... no to KNOW that SOMETHING is not right

[pschrier]

Well said, Sir.

Paulie

[spacemaverick]

Thanks for that Zorgon....helps me stay on track.

[RUSSO]

When you get a skeptic like IgnoreTheFacts at ATS that for years hounds you (like he did John and myself) then one day writes you saying "Your 90% right about your secret astronaut material" and you get an email from a guy at Vandeberg who IS one of those secret astronauts (21SOPS) telling you your info is out of date and offers to help you upgrade it... when you get NASA people contacting you and saying your Moon picture is the best they have ever seen, buying Bob Lazar/John Lear tapes and purusing (and advertising on) the website... when the Military sends watchers (and even knocks on the door), then feeds you info, increases your access to dot mil sites and buys advertising on the Stargate pages...

...you then have no choice but to believe... no to KNOW that SOMETHING is not right

ITF... that guy was a master lord in bashing people. I wonder what new avatar he choose after he got kicked from Alfa Tango Sierra.

Sometimes i wonder in fear if CIA has nothing to do with part of those contacts and partial leaks to some very specific people in the interwebs.

Afterall we know they are the ones...



in American mass media.

[zorgon]

ITF... that guy was a master lord in bashing people. I wonder what new avatar he choose after he got kicked from Alfa Tango Sierra.

Pity he was banned... I never did have his email addy

[RUSSO]

Pity he was banned... I never did have his email addy

Well... its not that difficult to find your trail back here.

Maybe he lost his guts

[RUSSO]

Were they Faked?

More wood to the fire?

'Fake' Apollo Moon Landing Photo Claims To Show Proof The Mission Was A Hoax

Almost 50 years after man walked on the moon, the "giant leap for mankind" is under the microscope once again – with conspiracy theorists convinced they have proof one of the moon landings was fake.

A picture allegedly taken in December 1972 of the final Apollo 17 moon mission has been shared online, and shows what one YouTuber believes is the reflection of a "stagehand" in the helmet of one of the astronauts.

The photo, uploaded to YouTube this week by a user named Streetcap1 is entitled "Reflection in a Visor," and Streetcap1 suggests this casts doubt onto whether the 1972 moon landing, in particular, was staged.

"I thought it looked a bit strange, so I took a picture of it using my software," Streetcap1 says in the video commentary.

"What we appear to have here is a figure of a human not wearing a spacesuit, circa early 70s... Apollo 17 photograph," he explained of the picture. "There was some dispute back in 2009 of the legitimacy of these photos."

"I'm just going to make a little video here and upload it and you can let me know what you think," Streetcap1 added, explaining he did believe in the moon landing but was now in doubt due to the photograph.

Full Read: http://www.newsweek.com/fake-apollo-moon-landing-photo-claims-show-proof-mission-was-hoax-716221?amp=1

The video:

Reflection in a Visor.


Original Picture From NASA:



Zoomed:



Thoughts?

[ArMaP]

There's a better version on a NASA site, here.

A crop from that version.


It looks like the other astronaut, the one that was taking the photo, I don't know why all this talk.

[RUSSO]

It looks like the other astronaut, the one that was taking the photo,

Thank you ArMaP

I don't know why all this talk.

Let me tell you, there is an ongoing conspiracy theory around that the man went to the moon, but the pictures and film footages NASA provided are fake, because they were trying to hide things they found in the moon

Sorry, could not help myself 

And yes, it looks like another astronaut!