Martyn Stubbs 99 Proof of UFOs: #1-STS-63 examined by a UFO

[Martyn Stubbs]

This 'Skepticbuster' shows a UFO moving above the space shuttle during the STS-63 mission. The goal here was to test the docking systems, but not actually dock with the MIR.
The audio is full of info that tells you what is happening etc., so I don't have to go on about it for Jim Oberg...& this UFO event takes time to roll out!

Just watch the UFO (the bright light) move above the shuttle... from left to right & then move up the shuttle. It is hard to see until 40 seconds ... so be patient!

The NASA video feed was in the 'Loss Of Signal' (no KU band) but the Russians still had their own feed available & so that is what we are seeing here.

The Russians  soon get very interested in this UFO & you see that they actually ZOOM IN on it!! Notice that they ZOOM past it & it comes into focus as they ZOOM back. It appears to have a blue haze around it.

The Russians blab away & I don't know Russian so it would be nice to know what is said. Maybe they provide a Jim Oberg friendly answer...& solve this!

Soon a NASA camera from inside the shuttle is shown  & I still see, on the lower left a small pulsating light, just under the MIR. Its the same UFO!

On my You Tube Channel I got alot of hits on this..but due to the lack of instant gratification, this has not been picked up & encoded much..as the "tether incident" has been!

Soooo I have posted it here & not ATS because it needs the type of study that is only at this site. Maybe it is explainable..no problem if it is, but I can't see what it could be other than a UFO!

So watch this ..fast forward it..whatever..& please give me your explanation. I welcome all your conclusions cuz I see nothing but a mystery object & it sure is not ICE! Where have I got this wrong?

[Sinny]

That's cool. I tend to find those Orbs some times grow tentical legs..
They vary in size and have even been recorded inside the shuttles..
Any suggestions on what sort of 'thing' can do that? Are we talking tech or critter?
I like to see the critters/orbs processed by certain some one who has now left the forum

[Pimander]

Martin,

Are you referring to the object that comes into focus at about 5m26s in the video?

The colour on this baby is similar.  I think these are "ours".


SOURCE:  http://www.rense.com/general74/bright.htm

[Martyn Stubbs]

If it was one of ours, then why bother checking out the shuttle? So I do not think it is ours!

[Martyn Stubbs]

That's cool. I tend to find those Orbs some times grow tentical legs..
They vary in size and have even been recorded inside the shuttles..
Any suggestions on what sort of 'thing' can do that? Are we talking tech or critter?
I like to see the critters/orbs processed by certain some one who has now left the forum

I think this could be a craft or critter...but a critter might hang around longer?...& I am suggesting that both could be organic & not mechanical.

[Martyn Stubbs]

I am disappointed by this lack of response to this post??? Is that because Z is gone?? I hope there is more to this site than just him..great as he is. To the 50 who at least read it...thanks..but no comment...?? try again!

A UFO that is even zoomed in on & from non NASA cameras, thus NASA had zero control of what the Russians were showing & checking out.

This UFO moves around the shuttle & all the while is also shadowing the 17,000 mph the shuttle is orbiting.

So what does that??

[ArMaP]

To the 50 who at least read it...thanks..but no comment...?? try again!

I am one of those 50, as I read the thread during my lunch break but didn't have the time to watch the video, as you didn't gave any indication of the time the UFO was seen on the video.

After watching the video I still don't understand what you call UFO, so could you be more specific about it? Maybe that way you get more answers.

PS: Zorgon (I suppose that's what you mean by "Z") is not gone.

[LSWONE]

I see some outline to it.
The "Glow" is something I have noticed also on some other craft. I am going to lean towards not organic since it has a glow around it.



Could be a satellite or a space taxi not publicly announced.
I know there have been some early mornings just as the sunlight starts coming over, we have noticed some objects which appear to be in orbit start glowing like stars. The sunlight seems to light up the bottom at the correct angle.

LSWONE.

[zorgon]

I think this could be a craft or critter...but a critter might hang around longer?...& I am suggesting that both could be organic & not mechanical.

Zorgon is here LOL but been a tad busy since I got back.

Don't be discouraged at the lack of replies. I found back at ATS when John and I had that mega Moon Anomaly thread that maybe 30 odd people would make useful comments (not counting the handful of debunkers and trolls) while the rest just looked. That thread at one point had 'hundreds of thousands of unique hits' (Springer's figures, not mine)  ArMaP will recall that because he challenged Springer on that one 

Main reason is that most people cannot really add much to the content and don't want to just post a WOW COOL  type post

As to Critter vs Mechanical

The critters and craft both are similar because both involve plasma...

The critter type sightings though the object tends to morph, change shape, pulse etc. Movement is usually highly erratic, like moths around a light at night.

Why would an Alien craft come all that way just to buzz around our skies aimlessly by the hundreds?  Those type of sightings much better fit critters than craft

Since the critters are plasma energy beings, they would feel no inertia and be bale to make impossible maneuvers just like lighting can. Critters also explain why there is very little hard evidence to be found. Since they are made of energy, there would be no part to be found.

During the day they would look like blurry orbs or blobs and at night glowing orbs...

I can go on with details that fit the critter profile but lets look at craft

continued...


CRITTER TYPE



Even Star Trek did the CRITTER in the 60's

[zorgon]

Now lets look at the craft.

I am going to ONLY cover the craft that use plasma....

I spent 35+ years looking at UFO cases and the plasma craft type have certain characteristics

But if you first look to our military, the new plasma skins on the stealth planes are now public (well the older stuff )  These plasma charged skins give off an eerie bluish purple glow. The plasma moves air aside so reducing sonic boom and they can actually steer the plane using plasma actuators. We covered all that years ago and its in pubic domain since 2006 at least


So some pointers:

1) WHY can you not get a CLEAR photo of a UFO?

Because the plasma charge on the UFO skin would disrupt light or bend light so it would appear fuzzy as long as the drive is operating. It can even been enough light to make it invisible or nearly so. Dr Resnick pattent does exactly that. Yes it is highly likely that this was reverse engineered      (it was likely the easiest one to reverse engineer because we were already familiar with plasma. NASA did a paper in 1961 on plasma shielding concepts for spacecraft)

Though the cause is different  the EFFECT is the same in airplane exhaust. I don't have a real UFO image to use so this will illustrate WHY no clear photo is possible ( unless its parked )

[Sinny]

If it was one of ours, then why bother checking out the shuttle? So I do not think it is ours!

But there may be diferent 'us's'. If that makes sense? Lol

I have been pondering about breakaway civilisations, to put that into better context..

And as Zorg pointed out, critters and tech both have similiar signatures these days... Hmm.

[Sinny]

I see some outline to it.
The "Glow" is something I have noticed also on some other craft. I am going to lean towards not organic since it has a glow around it.

I dunno about that, we have lots of bio-luminous critters back here at home.

[Sinny]

In fact, whilt in fresh in my mind...

As Z indicated towards the Star Trek Critter (and as a Trekky fan, I can state that isn't the only example), many 'ships' have have been indicated to be biological entities with mechanical implants...

The images of said sci-fi craft that come to mind remind me of that weird deep sea creature THING that was recorded about 2-3 years ago, it featured on RT news, most awe striking THING I've probably ever seen. I'll attempt to link before the night is out.

Maybe irrelevant, but it comes to mind for some reason.

[LSWONE]

I dunno about that, we have lots of bio-luminous critters back here at home.

I am just commenting my thoughts. I have not seen any Bio-Lum critters personally. Just online and TV.

LSWONE.

[zorgon]

2) The Inertia

Well we know that a pilot inside a craft that made such sharp maneuvers would need to be scraped off the wall right?

Well there is an out... something covered in first year physics in high school

It will require we assume one thing... that an alien intelligence has figured out the unified field theory

So for this to work, we assume they have...

Now look at the high school experiment...



WOW looky THAT  looks like an ORB   

Well it works like this... IF you put a charge on the sphere...  then a smaller object like a pith ball charged neg or pos... will either repel or be attracted to the ball but place the pith ball on the INSIDE there is ZERO effect because the charge is canceled out on the inside

So while we can already do this with anything on the EM spectrum, all we need is the unified field theory that ties gravity and inertia into the same group

Now at the time I asked my teacher if this holds true of other shapes, like a cube or a lens. He said yes but on a lens the exterior effect would be concentrated on the RIM  (later when I told him why I was looking he disowned me LOL) Yes I have been looking that long   

So in summary. Put the appropriate energy field onto your craft skin and you can deflect atmosphere and EM radiation (light,laser, radio etc and if your alien likely gravity and inertia (no anti gravity device required just a very powerful EM field)

It seems likely from what I have studied that the Roswell craft was hit by a powerful radar beam (something new for us at the time) and they were caught off guard and it damaged their field/shielding

The SAME effect is used by STAR TREK when they say SHIELDS UP and the cloaking device  ALL based on the same principle

The SAME effect is related to HAARP and EISCAT research (Yes HAARP has the potential to put up a planetary shield if there are enogh stations

Shields for the Starship Enterprise: A Reality? - EISCAT Related Research
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/EISCAT_Artificial_Magnetic_Shield.html