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Started by Sinny, October 23, 2014, 04:56:57 PM

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#105
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on October 29, 2014, 03:43:56 AM
Before one can understand anything, one 1st needs to know their 'Real Selves'. "I am frightened and astonished to see my self here instead of there now instead of then." Blaise Pascal from the book infinity and the mind Thought has been split up into various mest bodies Advanced tech did the splitting and assigning of our so called true selves but it is final


How many know, WHERE they came from ?


I am NOT referring to the 'human Primate', but instead what is experiencing the 'Primate' !


I am ONLY one of many.... WHO has experienced WHAT you call Death, NOT an NDE
but legally declared Dead, only to find that Death is a 'human Myth' !  LOL.

I wasn't dead for a few minutes, but according to the one who pronounced my death, I was 'Brain Dead'
for more than 30 minutes.   :o


But to myself I was very, very, much alive, but I had no brain to think with, as it was dead,
but what remained, was my 'Real SELF' which did NOT function as though human !

When I stood up again, those who witnessed this, were very nervous.

At 1st thinking they were seeing a ghost . LOL.

But actually it is a far more common experience, than most assume.


I have no need to prove it, because I am at peace with LIFE.

By trying to prove anything, is a total waste of time.

The unbeliever deceives themselves, because they are unable to face the truth !

This is why it is a waste of time trying to prove anything ...


So to explain more is impossible, as it is beyond the reasoning of the 'human species' ....  LOL.


We each experience the 'human Primate' differently, according to the requirements to achieve the Necessary
results.


The experience of Earth involves huge Complexities and a number of experiences... humans call 'lives'  ...
Some Hundred in fact .... some even more.


It is NOT for me or anyone else to prove, as that changes nothing.

Each one has to find the answers for themselves through the experience.



It's just that most like myself, don't want to talk about it, because of the Superstitious nature of the 'Species'.


To comprehend the truth, you need to experience it, or you simply can't understand nor accept.

The fact remains we all pass through death, no escaping it,  :)  and we learn more during this experience
than at any other time.


Many fear death, but really its only because they are unable to TRUST LIFE !

There is nothing at all to fear..... as you soon learn what the 'human primate' refers to as death,
is ONLY a 'Myth'.


Everywhere on Earth the 'human species' is at WAR against LIFE !

Few ever bother to find out about LIFE, and remain 'materialistic' or forever ,'complaining',
and 'cursing' LIFE.


There is actually a reason for this extremely difficult Program, (Earth) and it is NOT for reasons most believe on earth.


IF there was another way to perform the 'Task' (Earth Program) then the Earth would NOT exist !


Most forget that LIFE suffers ALL ...

Whereas individuals, suffer only a very small proportion of the overall suffering.

Most experiencing Earth are far too 'self centred' and far too 'Superstitious', always complaining ....   :(


This Program (Earth) performs its 'Task' perfectly, by invoking one to ask the QUESTION !


When you ask the Right Questions you get the Right answers.   :) questions are the answer Anthony Robbins Awaken the Giant within asking a question enturbulates thought with matter energy space and time and through this enturbulation thought learns something about matter energy space and time if it becomes too enturbulated then only through the death mechanism can thought free itself to come back more intelligent about matter energy space and time there are two universes thought and mest universes 

BUT IF you ask the wrong Questions you always get the wrong answers.   :(


Q&A results in 'Dialogue' ... In this case between the 'Ends' of 'The True Mind'l in other words LIFE.   :)
"We never forget what we are thinking about!" Terrestrial officers Tyler and Denver On Disclosure Lockheed Martin says that they never forget who they are working for.

onetruekeeper

In all the threads that I have posted something, there seems to be a eerie silence as if I said something that does not resonate with the members of PRC.
Perhaps I am addressing the wrong audience with my  views.
Well, I guess this means farewell. It's safe to post again everyone. You can come out and play.
Cheers.

RUSSO

Quote from: onetruekeeper on November 04, 2014, 09:47:36 AM
In all the threads that I have posted something, there seems to be a eerie silence as if I said something that does not resonate with the members of PRC.
Perhaps I am addressing the wrong audience with my  views.
Well, I guess this means farewell. It's safe to post again everyone. You can come out and play.
Cheers.

Well man... You may be over reacting to the no reaction to your posts. Maybe its just a slow week/month.

Anyways, farewell but come back as your will. :)

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

The Matrix Traveller

I think you are 100% correct there RUSSO ...

Sometimes I find things very slow too ... I guess it just depends where the interest from day to day.   :)

It has taught me to be a little more patient .....

Hope to see you back again soon <onetruekeeper> ....

zorgon

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on November 04, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
I think you are 100% correct there RUSSO ...

Sometimes I find things very slow too ... I guess it just depends where the interest from day to day.   :)

I CASE NO ONE HAS NOTICED

The forum has maybe 30ish posters that are here on a regular basis  IF THAT since the last Ego War

It is hardly surprizing that with that few people on board that there would be a lot of comments in any particular thread

::)

Just sayin  :P

Sinny

#110
Quote from: Sinny on October 30, 2014, 01:51:37 AM
Matrix, may I ask your thoughts on the nature of 'language' and 'text'..

Hi Matrix, sorry for the late expansion, my mind is slightly disorganised of late.

I would like to here your 'initial' thoughts on the use of language, text, symbol and geometry, and the purposes they serve. I've read about a certain perspective on these, and just wish to see if the perspective is similiar to your knowledge.
Sorry if I seem cryptic and vague, I don't wish to lead you.

P.s, Keeper, I liked your posts, scoochy back on over here.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

The Matrix Traveller

#111
Quote from: Sinny on November 05, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Hi Matrix, sorry for the late expansion, my mind is slightly disorganised of late.

I would like to here your 'initial' thoughts on the use of language, text, symbol and geometry, and the purposes they serve. I've read about a certain perspective on these, and just wish to see if the perspective is similiar to your knowledge.
Sorry if I seem cryptic and vague, I don't wish to lead you.

On Earth we use various 'symbols' or 'stick drawing' like images for Communication purposes,
in one form or other.

My Interest lays in the 'Form' of such, and realise All of what we use in our various written languages,
come via 'Inspiration' from the Mind. (some may call invention)

This of course, involves a huge area of subjective discussion, due to what we each of us may believe
or not believe what the Mind actually is.


So let's look at the form of these Stick like Drawings.

Some languages use strings of 'Letters' and 'numeral forms' along with 'Punctuation marks' etc.
while other languages use various glyphs or 'stick like drawings' in strings, to represent a word or meaning.


What each of these symbols, letters, numerals, Punctuation marks etc. represent is not that important
except that a common set of rules apply to each language.

It is Important to realise that any 'symbols', 'letters', 'numerals', 'Punctuation marks' etc. are produced by
the assembly of ONLY 2 'Building Blocks' which are;

a.   'Straight Lines'
and
b.   'Curved Lines'

The reason of course being, there is no other shape.

This applies to ALL including the world of 'Concepts' and NOT just to the components of written language.


It could be recognised that 'Straight' and 'Curved' are opposites in a strange sort of way, as there are only
these 2 forms.

Even when considering other dimensions these 2 'Building Blocks' still apply.

In other words a potion of a form, is Curved NOT Straight, or Straight and NOT Curved.

The origin of all the Geometric forms used in communication come from a common source,
involving only these 2 'Building Blocks', Curved and Straight.

And we know anything we do in this world, is 'Inspired' by the Mind so the common source is the Mind.


So the obvious point to consider involves the Question WHAT is in fact, the Mind ?

And more to the point WHAT is its 'Source Code' ?

Source Code:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_code
QuoteIn computing, source code is any collection of computer instructions (possibly with comments)
written using some human-readable computer language, usually as text.

The source code of a program is specially designed to facilitate the work of computer programmers,
who specify the actions to be performed by a computer mostly by writing source code.

The source code is often transformed by a compiler program into low-level machine code understood
by the computer.

The machine code might then be stored for execution at a later time.

Alternatively, an interpreter can be used to analyze and perform the outcomes of the source code program
directly on the fly.

Most computer applications are distributed in a form that includes executable files, but not
their source code.

If the source code were included, it would be useful to a user, programmer, or system administrator,
who may wish to modify the program or to understand how it works.

Aside from its machine-readable forms, source code also appears in books and other media;
often in the form of small code snippets, but occasionally complete code bases; a well-known case
is the source code of PGP.


Everything involves a 'Process' or 'Processes' of some kind or other, NOT just 'Computers Systems' etc.


No matter WHAT we consider in All things, the Mind expresses itself through Geometric Form.

This exists even IF Math did not exist.

Yes I know Geometry is seen as Math but it involves form.


In the minds Processes, it does NOT need to use Math, but all is through the manipulation of 'form'.

And what underpins this, is a set of rules which are defined and permanent. (Unchangeable)


So to get a true Understanding of anything, we 1st need to locate the 'Source Code' of the Mind.   :)

It is exactly in this area, I have studied full time over the last 20 years.

starwarp2000

Quote from: Pimander on October 23, 2014, 05:42:11 PM
The Stargate Conspiracy is a great read.  I can't recommend it highly enough.  I really like Picknett and Prince's books with their sceptical cut to the chase mentality.

Thanks for this recommendation, Pim.
I picked it up on Amazon for 30 pence ($10 Postage though).
From what i have read so far it is an exceptional read!
Who knew they where plotting all that behind our backs?
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

starwarp2000

That book, "The Stargate Conspiracy", also blows the cover of Bearden! Why the hell would he be involved in that type of Esoteric goobeldy doc, unless he had "Other" motives.
Always good to get a broader insight into those who the masses believe.
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

zorgon

#114
Quote from: starwarp2000 on November 29, 2014, 04:39:17 PM
That book, "The Stargate Conspiracy", also blows the cover of Bearden! Why the hell would he be involved in that type of Esoteric goobeldy doc, unless he had "Other" motives.

Pop over to DTIC.mil   8)  type in Thomas Bearden

THE ONE HUMAN PMOBLEM, ITS SOLUTION, AND ITS RELATION TO UFO PHENOMENA
Jauuary 3, 1977
Thomas E. Bearden

•The sixth stage consists of linkage of all individual brains in the species into
one single super brain, Thus a supe rbeing having absolute control of space and
time results. It requires a technological species to accomplish linkage, resulting
in a multidimensional, eventually nonphysical super being. When technology is
sufficiently advanced for linkage to be developed, the power of the species' tools
is so great that its own self-destruction is imminent. Thus an advanced technological
civilization is near linkage or Armageddon, and in either case it vanishes
as a limited three-dimensional species of the fifth stage. This accounts for the
notable absence of technological species such as man in the observed universe.
The author presents a quantitative argument for the existence of sixth-stage
beinqg. Granted the existence of one, the existence of the bther follows.

The UFO phenomena are consistent with the hypothesis that a sixth-stage super being is
stimulating the deep collective unconscious of humanity in preparation for the
eventual linkage of man into a single super being at the sixth-stage level.


http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a034236.pdf

starwarp2000

#115
Quote from: zorgon on November 29, 2014, 07:49:48 PM
Pop over to DTIC.mil   8)  type in Thomas Bearden

THE ONE HUMAN PMOBLEM, ITS SOLUTION, AND ITS RELATION TO UFO PHENOMENA
Jauuary 3, 1977
Thomas E. Bearden
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a034236.pdf

Thanks for that Zorgs! :)
A greater (Superior) intelligence requires a more efficient, more powerful energy supply!
Strange how he infiltrated the Free Energy Community, leaving no solid, reproducible art, more in the order of confusion!  8)
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

Sinny

I'm behind and missing a trick - I have stumbled over some Bearden exposure, but I can't recall where.

I've not yet read The Star Gate conspiracy, I've been reading Levenders works..

I'd appreciate some quotes if anyone has the time.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Sinny

#117
Quote from: Pimander on October 26, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
Consciousness learning about itself because it wants to.  Does there have to be a purpose other than doing something you want?

There are two main secret society viewpoints really.  One is Dualist and this world is seen as the creation of what is practically seen as the Devil and is an illusion.  Souls are seen as essentially trapped in this world and have in most cases forgotten their incorporeal nature.  This viewpoint means that this experience is a terrible evil to be escaped.  From this viewpoint comes ideas like pleasures of the flesh are evil.  The Cathars believed something like that as do many mystical religious types.

There is another point of view, which is more oriented towards the idea that the whole of what we experience is all part of something real although it also accepts that what it appears to be might be an illusion created by OURSELVES as opposed to an external Devil.  In this case there is no external Satan to fight, we create our own heaven and hell here.  Evil and Good are just about perspective and are two sides of the same coin and in this wholist conception the idea of a Good God and a Devil make little sense - except they are given a spiritual form of sorts by human thought forms.  They are not really the creators of our world.

Both believe in the main in the possibility of reincarnation but one thinks it is a bad thing and the others a positive learning experience.  Most mainstream religion (including some aspects of Buddhism) derive from the dualist interpretation - although almost all religions probably have a mystical sect or secret society that have realised the truth.

Quote from: onetruekeeper on October 26, 2014, 05:55:58 AM
In a upcoming post I will discuss how we might be able to construct "tools" which might help us escape from this maximum security prison for our minds..LOL
No guarantees that it would work though.
/quote]The key is to stop imprisoning ourselves within a prison of our own creation - if you think all this hocus pocus is real.

Just reviewed this post.

The first paragraph seems to describe some of the things that I feel.
I say 'I feel' because I have tried to 'think differently', but this is usually how I 'feel'.

I believe there are some truths to the other concepts that you highlighted, however I also feel as though many people within society, especially those who have 'awoken', have simply reliquinshed control over them selves to this 'New Age Phenomena'.

They all share the shame general belief, and they believe 'these entities' that they communicate with.

Call me cautious, but I will not relinquish my self over to any one elses belief system - whether they are 'earthly' or not.

It's becoming quickly apparent that we are a spiritually divided species.

'New Agers' who have discovered the 'infinite truth', through deception of the Light Bearer.

The Athiest Godless heathens, who rape and murder, through satanic Ahrimanic forces.

Devout, constrained, and manipulated Religious folk.

Those of us not yet willing to be labelled.

Rudolf Steiner appears to have realised that we were, and are, being pulled in many directions, and as man we need to overcome these forces, recognise them for what they are, and thus become our own force, free from control and dependancy. 

There's a common theme within all of the above view points, and that is that there is a 'war in heaven'. Look ye not to the skys, which is just a canvas for this scenrio to depict it's self. But look around us, into the realms that co-exist with us.

We have become blinded by the light of Lucifer, as he instigates our materialistic scientific world view - a 'progression' towards weapons of mass destruction, and he has us search the stars for intelligent life, whilst all the time it's here with us! All around us, and in us.

They are all Cosmic Jokers alright, each playing to their own tune.
The faster we learn this, the better.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

petrus4

#118
Quote from: Sinny on November 30, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
There are two main secret society viewpoints really.  One is Dualist and this world is seen as the creation of what is practically seen as the Devil and is an illusion.  Souls are seen as essentially trapped in this world and have in most cases forgotten their incorporeal nature.  This viewpoint means that this experience is a terrible evil to be escaped.  From this viewpoint comes ideas like pleasures of the flesh are evil.  The Cathars believed something like that as do many mystical religious types.

As far as I am concerned, acorporeal Service to Self polarised beings (more commonly known as demons) do exist.  Some of them reside primarily in astral constructs which we would know as Hells; others wear reptilian skin and black robes, and live on other planets.  There's plenty of room for David Icke's reptilians, within my own paradigm.  Whether or not they are definitely here on this planet right now, is a slightly different story; but I don't have much of a problem with the idea that they exist.

Of course, acorporeal Service to Others polarised beings (more conventionally known as angels) exist as well.  In conventional terms, that means brother Michael, and master Metatron, and the rest of the cardinals and their staff.  These guys have their own themed astral constructs, just like the demons do.

In extraterrestrial terms, the STO crowd includes groups like the Pleiadians, Andromedans, and the Sirians to a lesser extent.  I say to a lesser extent because, while the STO Sirians are very positive, they're actually closer to a race of beings like us.  The Pleiadians are partly acorporeal, and the Andromedans would likely make most people's heads spin.

As for physical reality being inherently bad/undesirable; yes and no.  Truthfully that is a very old idea, and while not completely, it does come to a certain extent from the desire for social/political control, on the part of religious authorities.  I don't necessarily share the traditional Hindu opinion about Samsara; yes, it can be extremely unpleasant and miserable, but it can be enjoyable, too.  A big part of the inspiration for this idea, I think comes from the Buddha's realisation that emotional experience follows the Law of Polarity; as in, if you experience happiness, then eventually the pendulum has to swing and you will experience misery.  He therefore came up with the idea, that the way to avoid misery is to get off that axis entirely; so not only do you no longer experience unhappiness, but at least to a certain degree, you no longer experience happiness either.  I suspect that if the Vulcans turned out to be real, they would find much to appreciate about Buddhism.

QuoteThere is another point of view, which is more oriented towards the idea that the whole of what we experience is all part of something real although it also accepts that what it appears to be might be an illusion created by OURSELVES as opposed to an external Devil.  In this case there is no external Satan to fight, we create our own heaven and hell here.  Evil and Good are just about perspective and are two sides of the same coin and in this wholist conception the idea of a Good God and a Devil make little sense - except they are given a spiritual form of sorts by human thought forms.  They are not really the creators of our world.

From my own perspective, moral relativism tends to break down.  Yes, the Law of Polarity exists, as mentioned; but I personally tend to believe that it's a good idea to identify whereabouts on said axis you want to live. 

My own alignment is what Gary Gigax referred to as Neutral Good, occasionally tending towards Chaotic Neutral.  I have an internal code of morality, and I care very little about external law, as I believe that the law primarily exists as a weapon which those who have power, use against those who do not.  If you have enough money or know the right people, you can get away with virtually anything in legal terms.  To the extent that I care about external or governmental law at all, it is purely in order to avoid death or incarceration.  I do not believe that government has any inherent moral or spiritual legitimacy, but that it exists exclusively due to the lack of willingness within most of humanity, to self-manage.

The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? the public? or the "godfather"?

This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.

        -- Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars

My central principle is minimal harm to others, with minimal harm to myself, in that order.  I am inclined towards martyrdom; if I have to choose between someone else's benefit or my own, I will generally choose the other person's; although perhaps paradoxically, I am reclusive and do not tend towards such things as volunteer work or activism, as I also do not want to be harmed by others, and find that virtually impossible to avoid, when interacting with mainstream society.  My primary concern is to avoid the accumulation of negative karma, which I believe only occurs due to harming others, or enriching myself at others' expense.  I do not tend to believe that self-harm has negative spiritual consequences, and it particularly does not if said self-harm results in the benefit of someone else.  Others are fundamentally all that matter; beyond basic survival, the self does not.

I have been accused of parasitism because of the fact that I am on welfare.  My experience with the education system, and later life in Sunbury, offered me abundant evidence of the fact that I do not have the ability to survive within the mainstream workforce, or any environment where I do not have direct control over the amount of exposure I have to other human beings.  As a result, I view being on the pension as extending the principle, of minimisation of mutual harm, given that as I have written elsewhere extensively, I also do not believe that entrepreneurialism is possible without causing serious harm to others.  Isolation means that I have no opportunity to exploit others for my own gain, and they have minimal opportunity to subject me to psychological or physical abuse.

When VillageIdiot referred to me as a taker, I was tempted to point out to him that I typically live on $10-$20 a day; and the only reason why that isn't less, is because I usually buy food rather than cooking, in order to avoid the risk of interpersonal conflict with, or abuse from, other people using the communal kitchen here.  I have no car, no mobile phone, no credit card debt, and a single change of clothes.  In other words, if I am a taker, I am unable to take much less without literally starving.

Quote'New Agers' who have discovered the 'infinite truth', through deception of the Light Bearer.

I do not believe in giving Satan excessive credit, personally.  The Christians will tell you otherwise; but in my experience, Satan actually has the ability to do us more harm when we focus on him unduly, than when we ignore him.  It is a Hindu proverb that Man becomes what he worships; and as a result, giving Lucifer too much mental airtime is not wise.  I have already been harmed immeasurably by my own obsession with the cabal.
"Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburgers."
        — Abbie Hoffman

zorgon

Brother Micheal is a WAR ANGEL... Champion of Rome and of Cops and Militaries



Lucifer is the "Bringer of Light"



Silly Christians have it all WRONG  :P and have duped the rest of the world all these years

WHY is the Dragon worshiped as a GOOD LUCK charm in every nation but the Christian ones?

Think about it... the WRONG GUY... the real BAD GUY won the War and He demands blind obedience and absolute worship without question

THINK ABOUT IT... it will come to you   8)