Nazi UFO conspiracy

[A51Watcher]

You know this because you have have traced them all down and asked them again?

As a matter of fact, yes I have, several of them (locals) but not all of course.

Prof. James Mcdonald did so as well in the 60's.

[Sinny]

Hey Astro,

Did you check this one out?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6793.0

ETA: How are you appearing offline A51? Did you select that option?

[A51Watcher]

ETA: How are you appearing offline A51? Did you select that option?

No, I selected logout. 

[Sinny]

No, I selected logout. 

Anyway, as a change of pace A51, we'll still be workin on Roswell in the back ground... are there any other examples you wish to provide of what you deem to be at ET Craft, Encounter, or Crash?

[A51Watcher]

Sorry A51, I am not intentionally being a pain in your ass, in a new approach that I am trying out in UFOlogy I am not allowing myself to speculate beyond known facts.

Sounds like a reasonable approach.

And it's no trouble really, Pim and I worked out these answers together a few years ago whilst fighting the ATS crowd together.

We made remarkable progress using the very approach you mention above.

[Ellirium113]

Here is Arnolds own drawing of the heel shaped craft as submitted to the investigators -

That picture speaks volumes as THAT heel shaped craft IS one of the designs that were being worked on by AVRO.





It seems very likely that Dr. Richard Meithe had been working on similar designs back in Germany and had a hand in AVROs disc project development. Pretty amazing coincidence if I'm wrong.

[zorgon]

[astr0144]

Thk you...I will try to watch it when I can find time..

I can be logged on PRC, but have other webpages open...or doing other things on my Computer...or thinking about other things outside prc...Unfortunately I am not always able to be continually researching..

Hey Astro,

Did you check this one out?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=6793.0

ETA: How are you appearing offline A51? Did you select that option?

[astr0144]

Thks for posting those photos and diagrams E113 & "Z"....those craft look quite amazing, especially if they are pure manmade...

The Nuclear one reminds me of one of the Star Trek enterprise craft that they carry if I recall...

Incredible technology and design.....

I wonder if that Nuke one is one of the very latest designs...ie not one done 50 yrs in advance that has recently appeared....

[zorgon]

I wonder if that Nuke one is one of the very latest designs...ie not one done 50 yrs in advance that has recently appeared....

THIS should answer your question...

In our July 1997 cover story, "Roswell Plus 50," POPULAR MECHANICS detailed how Air Force interest in duplicating Nazi technology led to two American flying disc projects. Project Silver Bug sought to build a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft. Project Pye Wacket was to create small discs for use as air-to-air missiles. Documents declassified since then point to a third secret project, a 40-ft. "flying saucer" designed to rain nuclear destruction on the Soviet Union from 300 miles in space.

Related research commenced during the late 1950s. The Convair/Pomona division of General Dynamics initiated a project entitled Pye Wacket. Its purpose was to determine the feasibility of developing a missile-defense system based on flying discs (lenticular vehicles). Although Pye Wacket was terminated by 1961, research had shown lenticular-shaped vehicles possessed sound re-entry characteristics. Subsequently, research proceeded towards developing manned lenticular re-entry vehicles during the 1960s and '70s.

The official designation for America's nuclear flying saucer was the Lenticular Reentry Vehicle (LRV). It was designed by engineers at the Los Angeles Division of North American Aviation, under a contract with the U.S. Air Force. The project was managed out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, in Dayton, Ohio, where German engineers who had worked on rocket plane and flying disc technology had been resettled.

The LRV escaped public scrutiny because it was hidden away as one of the Pentagon's so-called "black budget" items -- that is, a secret project that is incorporated into some piece of nonclassified work. On Dec. 12, 1962, security officers at Wright-Patterson classified the LRV as secret because: "It describes an offensive weapon system." The project remained classified until May 1999, when a congressionally mandated review of old documents changed the project's status as a government secret, downgrading it to public information. The Department of Defense did, however, successfully seek to have the document's distribution restricted to defense contractors. PM obtained its copy as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request.

http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent/?file=PMsaucer

[Sinny]

Lenticular Reentry Vehicle:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenticular_Reentry_Vehicle#/search

[zorgon]

Wikipedia  always a goods source

AFTER the fact   



I got my info here



Popular Mechanics Magazine July 1997 Roswell / UFO Crash

[astr0144]

That does quite amaze me....especially if its purely Human design.

Not sure  exactly what its flight abilities were / are ... in terms of speed and how far it could travel...
Like we may envision ET Type UFOs to do....
90 degree turns etc...

but otherwise it looks the real business !

I never thought that they would release such info to the public !  I am surprised


What do they have as the very latest Craft that is superior to all the rest I wonder..Both Purely Human..and ET if they are here !

On Dec. 12, 1962, security officers at Wright-Patterson classified the LRV as secret because: "It describes an offensive weapon system." The project remained classified until May 1999

Again I am surprised its on Wikapedea !

wikipedia

The Lenticular Reentry Vehicle (LRV), according to a November 2000 Popular Mechanics cover story,[1] was an experimental nuclear warhead delivery system under development during the Cold War by defense contractor North American Aviation, managed out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.

The project was classified as secret in 1962 and cleared for public release December 28, 1999.[2] Its declassified technical report had been compiled by R. J. Oberto, Los Angeles Division of North American Aviation. His report described the LRV as an offensive weapons system. Popular Mechanics obtained information on the LRV from a Freedom of Information Act request after documents describing the project were declassified in 1999.

[zorgon]

I never thought that they would release such info to the public !  I am surprised

General rule of thumb re Classified documents  50 years before it becomes unclassified UNLESS they feel the material is still a matter of National Security

So even when documents are declassified you will see sections blacked out {redacted}  A lot of that is names but on FOIA requests you can sometimes see pages of black ink

Again I am surprised its on Wikapedea !

why? Wikipedia is merely a collection of reports posted by someone like us.  That is why it is not allowed as a source in school.  Generally wikipedia is a biased opinion website. It has value though because you can copy and paste stuff free and the CITATIONS are real so it gives you a fast starting point

But an article on Wiki is usually added much later, after the item has made mainstream

[zorgon]