US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

[Sinny]

The clear of avoidance of my relevant queries demonstate obvious cognitive dissonance amongst some of our contributers.

NB: 'Relevent queires, the thread is about Israeli NW, I want to know who's in charge of Israel, could I have been more relevent? 

I also love how the word 'anti-semitism' has been thrown into the mix when the *magical word* has not even once been mentioned. (Honestly!)

The act of treason was not Obama declassifying documents, the actual act of treason was Obama taking office, and every presisdent who has took office since the day the entity of the American government assasinated it's own presisdent, JFK.

I'll happily throw in the towel here, as I know the patience for  depths intellectual examination fall ruthlessly short from here on out..

Starwarp, the conversation did not 'devolve', it had evolved, now it's being dissolved. (Ha.)

I can go seek out the American Patriot forums for my kind of discussion.

May the Lord be with you Rdunk.

[ArMaP]

ArMaP, are you talking about Christians, as you say "many people"?

Yes, Christians, as most Portuguese are Christians, and of those most are Catholic.

[ArMaP]

The original intent was to spotlight Obamas treasonous act of releasing Top Secret information.

Is Obama the one that chooses what publish and not publish as answer to a FOIA request?

They are the buffer between totally radical Islam and the rest of the Middle East!

Are they really?

Behold the Nuclear Armed Iran, worlds first State Sponsor of Terrorism, come to lie in your bed.

Where's that Nuclear Armed Iran? I can't see it from here.

[rdunk]

Starwarp, the conversation did not 'devolve', it had evolved, now it's being dissolved. (Ha.)


May the Lord be with you Rdunk.

Sinny, thanks for your direct comment to me!!!!

I do suggest that you stay "involved" here, so that some of us can together get the important stuff "resolved" in our own minds and hearts!

Sinny, regarding the country of Israel, have you ever thought about the fact that much about what is known about Israel is seemingly way different from all other peoples/countries? Certainly, their written history reeks of supernatural involvement, and in and out of the captivity of other countries. And even since 1948, when they again "became a country", a lot of odd stuff has been happening through the years, including many technology achievements through their research and work. But from then until still now, Israel seems to be the "captivation point" of much of the relational concerns of a widely spread part of this world, and yet such a tiny place!

And......the views of Israel do seem to vary widely, as can be compared to the variance of thought presented in an old example of a room full of horse manure - some see that room as just a very very stinky room smelling like _ _ _ _, while others see that room with the knowing that there has to be a horse in here somewhere - in this case, a supernatural HORSE!!!

It is likely that discussions of Israel in the future will significantly increase, as "events" become even more suggestive of the fulfillment of prophetic writings.

[zorgon]

If you talk bad about Jews and Israel you are labeled anti-semitic

What are you called if you talk bad about Muslims and Iran?

What are you called if your an Orthodox Jew talking bad about and calling for the dismantling of Israel?

If Zorgon says anything bad about Israel he is labelled a NAZI

Why do people 'dislike ' the Jews and Israel so much? Because the average person sees them entrenched in any field where money and gold is involved. Even Jesus had issues with the money lenders. But you can't talk about that because that would be anti semitic...

The Nazi's killed millions of NON Jews too... but they don't count  and only Jews are still collecting cash from Germany today... but it is illegal, a hate crime to talk bad about the holocaust

Hollywood. Lawyers, Government... yep they are in there thick as thieves but you can't discuss that or be labeled anti-semitic or a hater.  Doesn't matter what the truth is

Now Saudi's are using their influence and money to control as well. We have a big complex in Vegas paid for by Saudi money  but it is okay to bash Muslims  You won't be labelled anything


So WHO is driving the current false flag program of hate directed at Muslims?  Can't talk about that... might be labelled

[starwarp2000]

Is Obama the one that chooses what publish and not publish as answer to a FOIA request?

Yes! In this case the FOIA was denied and the claimant sued for released. The High Court ordered the Government to release the document. The contents of that document (Classified) would therefore be up to the discretion of Obama himself to release or not release! He ordered the redaction of  the particulars about the nuclear programs of Germany, France, Pakistan etc, and released information only on Israel. You put two and two together and see the treason involved. But alas it is just another act he will get away with!

Are they really?

Who else, apart from the tooth fairy, has held back Iran from taking the region?

Where's that Nuclear Armed Iran? I can't see it from here.

Don't worry, it will soon affect you directly. It shall spring from the trough fed drones of the MSM. 

[zorgon]

Sinny, regarding the country of Israel, have you ever thought about the fact that much about what is known about Israel is seemingly way different from all other peoples/countries?

Not though about it a whole lot But explain to me why the ORTHODOX Jews want to see Israel dismantled? They say a STATE of Israel is against the Torah. But hey What do I know?

Certainly, their written history reeks of supernatural involvement, and in and out of the captivity of other countries. And even since 1948, when they again "became a country", a lot of odd stuff has been happening through the years, including many technology achievements through their research and work. But from then until still now, Israel seems to be the "captivation point" of much of the relational concerns of a widely spread part of this world, and yet such a tiny place!

Israel is NOT 'such a tiny place' They are an international network with a tiny home base. Hitlers solution was evil  no question about that, but he DID offer to let them leave and go to other countries... no one wanted them at the time including Israel.   And despite what many believe the Jewish practice of sucking the money out of a nation and sending the Gold home does have adverse effects on an economy.  Same thing that happened in Germany is happening here today in the US. The Rothschilds and others are taking the gold out of the US killing jobs and our economy  I hear they are investing in China now...

But oops  can't talk about that I might be 'labelled'






What I never understood is when the UN decided to create the State of Israel, why they didn't at the same time give the Palestinians a chunk of land as well? Seems it would have stopped a lot of grief

It is likely that discussions of Israel in the future will significantly increase, as "events" become even more suggestive of the fulfillment of prophetic writings.

So perhaps the PTB is making things happen to fulfill the prophesy on purpose?  EVERY Nation on Earth has a root in "supernatural involvement" Every culture has its own prophesy.

But how hard is it to make plans that fit a prophetic screen play already written?

I still kinda feel just nuking the entire ME is the best solution But I guess that would make me a hater

[starwarp2000]

Why do people 'dislike ' the Jews and Israel so much? Because the average person sees them entrenched in any field where money and gold is involved. Even Jesus had issues with the money lenders. But you can't talk about that because that would be anti semitic...

Zorgon, my friend, it goes way further than current history. Go right back to Cyrus of Persia, and then forward to the Roman Era, and finally to the 20th and 21st centuries.
There has always been a universal hatred of Jews! I myself personally
don't buy into it, I seem to be immune to it. The reason for that you probably wouldn't understand.
So where does it come from? How can it be so universal?
The Jews themselves are hard working and tend to 'corner' the market in whatever they do. Is this the reason?
Without going into it too much, I believe it comes from the spiritual realm. An enemy that rails constantly against it and man is naturally affected by it. I will leave it at that.
Unless you have a better explanation?

The Nazi's killed millions of NON Jews too... but they don't count  and only Jews are still collecting cash from Germany today... but it is illegal, a hate crime to talk bad about the holocaust

Not really. Not so long ago Germany denied the holocaust even occurred, and even more so recently. Iran does it daily on Twitter! Nobody stands up and calls them anti-semitic?

Now Saudi's are using their influence and money to control as well. We have a big complex in Vegas paid for by Saudi money  but it is okay to bash Muslims  You won't be labelled anything

You seem to be unaware that those labelled 'radical' Muslims, use the same book as those labelled 'moderate' Muslims. So why aren't the moderate ones condemning the radical ones? Mmmmmmmmm, the answer to that will make your skin crawl.

So WHO is driving the current false flag program of hate directed at Muslims?  Can't talk about that... might be labelled

Some of it is false flag. Most of it actual. Hidden agendas abound. Ask yourself why a moderate Islamic country (Turkey) is also calling for the 'extermination' of the jews?

[zorgon]

I thought it was a well known fact that Israel was a nuclear power?  Even NCIS on TV told us that?

So what is all the fuss about?

I see all the conspiracy nuts clamering for official disclosure, filing FOIA's to get that disclosure... demanding the Government come clean and tell us what is going on...

Yet when the Head Cheese gives you that disclosure he is still attacked

Sorry I don't get it. Why is it a big deal to finally let the world know that Israel has always been a 'secret' Nuclear power?

[starwarp2000]

What I never understood is when the UN decided to create the State of Israel, why they didn't at the same time give the Palestinians a chunk of land as well? Seems it would have stopped a lot of grief

Wow, people don't know their history do they! Yes they included the Palestinians in the creation of Israel! Yes, they bent over backwards to accommodate them. Yes they gave up land to the Palestinians in 'every' bargained 'peace' treaty. But no, we want it all. So 6 nations set out to 'take' it from Israel and they put everyone of them on their arses!
You can't even talk about a Palestinian peace process anymore! It has been hijacked by Hamas........ umm UN...... IRAN. In the recent war Israel found Hamas rockets stored in UN Preschools and UN Food Storage Facilities, even though the UN inspectors are there every day! Therefore the UN is complicit in aiding and abetting a Terrorist Organisation! Any wonder that the pot is sullied. Any wonder that there will never be any resolution with the Arabs until Israel is annihilated?

[starwarp2000]

I thought it was a well known fact that Israel was a nuclear power?  Even NCIS on TV told us that? So what is all the fuss about?

Yes, but not the particulars! If i disclosed 'how' the US got Nuclear Weapons wouldn't I spend the rest of my life in the White House?

The particulars are what is important. They can aid Iran in the path to their Nuclear Bonfires, hence treason.

I see all the conspiracy nuts clamering for official disclosure, filing FOIA's to get that disclosure... demanding the Government come clean and tell us what is going on...

Yet when the Head Cheese gives you that disclosure he is still attacked

Look closely at the person who filed the FOIA request 

Sorry I don't get it. Why is it a big deal to finally let the world know that Israel has always been a 'secret' Nuclear power?

It's a secret 

[zorgon]

Zorgon, my friend, it goes way further than current history. Go right back to Cyrus of Persia, and then forward to the Roman Era, and finally to the 20th and 21st centuries.

Yes it goes way back but I didn't think I needed to list it all

There has always been a universal hatred of Jews! I myself personally
don't buy into it, I seem to be immune to it. The reason for that you probably wouldn't understand.
So where does it come from? How can it be so universal?
The Jews themselves are hard working and tend to 'corner' the market in whatever they do. Is this the reason?

I don't hate Jews I have many friends that are Jewish and get some great deals from the Gem dealers. Even got a %K 'loan' back in Toronto to start my business that was not expected to be repaid.  What I said was the general public tends to focus on one main issue...  And yes they are hard workers but there is a certain portion of them that are the greedy Gold hoarders (Like the guy who cashed in on 9/11) These are the ones that the people face. They are the money lenders who treat you like dirt. These are the ones that are the focus of the hate.  Even Shakespeare's "Merchant of Venus" addresses that point.  And don't forget what happened with that Golden Calf while Moses was up the hill

There is no denying that Hollywood is Jewish controlled Even Spock was one   But I like Spock

Ever had a Jewish Lawyer against you? There is a reason the word "Shyster" was invented   Goldberg's name is on the money

Sure I could go on  but everyone knows where the problem lies and human nature extends it to include "all"

Without going into it too much, I believe it comes from the spiritual realm. An enemy that rails constantly against it and man is naturally affected by it. I will leave it at that.
Unless you have a better explanation?

There is only one explanation... THIS guy said it a long long time ago



And WHO runs the Federal Reserve> And WHO owns the Media?

Not really. Not so long ago Germany denied the holocaust even occurred, and even more so recently. Iran does it daily on Twitter! Nobody stands up and calls them anti-semitic?

Well years ago there was a statement easily found regarding the 6 million figure.  Apparently it came from a Judge at Nuremberg that said "6000 or 6 million, what does it matter? the crime was done"  Just try and find that remark today on the net   And why is it still pushed so much today?  All about MONEY  but only the Jews are demanding recompensation What of all the others caught up in that mess?

You seem to be unaware that those labelled 'radical' Muslims, use the same book as those labelled 'moderate' Muslims. So why aren't the moderate ones condemning the radical ones? Mmmmmmmmm, the answer to that will make your skin crawl.

Oh THAT old question "The peaceful majority"  I have an answer to that one   This is a reply from a Lebanese woman

Some of it is false flag. Most of it actual. Hidden agendas abound. Ask yourself why a moderate Islamic country (Turkey) is also calling for the 'extermination' of the jews?

I don't need to ask that. Both sides have been at each other since Moses ran from Pharoah over 2000 years ago. 

What I want to know is WHY the Orthodox Jews are wanting Israel destroyed That is more relevant

[zorgon]

The particulars are what is important. They can aid Iran in the path to their Nuclear Bonfires, hence treason.

Hmmm well  We sell Jets to Iraq, train them to fly, sell them WMD's and Gas, to be used against Iran  Then we turn against our puppet Saddam and blow up the planes, and try to reclaim the WMD's (but Saddam sold them to Syria, all except the Gas Reagan sold him which he used on the Khurds)... then today we sell Iraq F-16's and train them to fly them again Wassupwitdat?

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=123611

It's a secret 

Why should it be?  No other nuclear nation gets to keep it secret? Why the special treatment for Israel?  Maybe that why haters hate

[starwarp2000]

What I want to know is WHY the Orthodox Jews are wanting Israel destroyed That is more relevant

You will have to ask an Orthodox Jew that one!

Maybe, I'm guessing, it's something to do with the Askenazi/Orthodox poop fight? Most Jews are not of the biblical Judah/Benjamin/Levi blood. Therefore the true-bloods hate the upstarts.

I will go to a Synagogue and ask one.   No, I won't

Read this and wonder:

http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm

[ArMaP]

Yes! In this case the FOIA was denied and the claimant sued for released. The High Court ordered the Government to release the document. The contents of that document (Classified) would therefore be up to the discretion of Obama himself to release or not release!

Can you give me an official source for that? Thanks in advance.

Who else, apart from the tooth fairy, has held back Iran from taking the region?

Iran.

Don't worry, it will soon affect you directly. It shall spring from the trough fed drones of the MSM. 

I have been much more affected by the actions of the US than any actions of Iran.