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New Research Topic - The Airships of King Solomon

Started by zorgon, August 01, 2015, 09:31:24 PM

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burntheships

Quote from: zorgon on August 08, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
So your saying a "crown" went up into space and became a constellation?

So that is more believable than a UFO?

::)

Like the ' coin story" The God Jupiter sends a shield to win a war from Heaven....

and you cannot see how that is a UFO expressed in terms available to them at that time?

This description is much like the "spy" satellites we send up.
In fact, many of the destinations for these spy satellites
are a "constellation". We really do not know the extent
of the technology sent up there. Thinking of "Star Wars".
Very interesting!
"This is the Documentary Channel"
- Zorgon

Senduko

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 04:28:13 AM
Thanks.

Now I'm wondering what all those squiggly things are floating beneath the sun...
I'm sure I read something to do with them the other day.. Humm dumm.

Wasn't there a theory that the sun was a portal? To me it looks like they are flying towards the sun, not away from it.

ArMaP

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 03:20:51 AM
ArMaP, to put it real simple, why are all these clouds depicted as 'alien' ufo's?
I don't see any cloud represented as an "alien UFO" (whatever that may mean), I see either clouds or things that are supposed to represent things like the annunciation, the holly spirit, etc., things that do not have (as far as I know) a specific physical definition.

QuoteI don't even want aliens to be real, I've been working on Dot Mil hypotheses (spelling), but ignore the facts I can't.
If you can't ignore the facts then do not ignore the fact that religious art is full of symbolisms specific to it, that's why there are people that spend all their lives studying this subject.

ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 08, 2015, 02:33:20 AM
A main point being overlooked in this discussion is that in much ancient art from Egyptian, religious and secret cult imagery, is that it presents one image to the masses, and yet quite another to initiates.
That's what I have been trying to say about these paintings, that those "UFOs" have a meaning that people that study art history know but that, to those that do not studied it, may look like other things, based on the influences we get from today's society.

ArMaP

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 04:28:13 AM
Now I'm wondering what all those squiggly things are floating beneath the sun...
I'm sure I read something to do with them the other day.. Humm dumm.
After a little search, this is what I found:

Quote2. The STAR. This attribute, often embroidered in front of the veil of the Virgin, or on the right shoulder of her blue mantle, has become almost as a badge from which several well-known pictures derive their title, "La Madonna della Stella." It is, in the first place, an attribute alluding to the most beautiful and expressive of her many titles : " Stella Maris," Star of the Sea, which is one interpretation of her Jewish name, Miriam ; but she is also " Stella Jacobi," the Star of Jacob ; " Stella Matutina," the Morning Star ; " Stella non Erratica," the Fixed Star. When, instead of the single star on her veil or mantle, she has the crown of twelve stars, the allusion is to the text of the Apocalypse already quoted, and the number of stars is in allusion to the number of the Apostles.'

Source

I've found other sources saying more or less the same thing.

Sinny

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Quote from: ArMaP on August 08, 2015, 12:26:47 PM
I don't see any cloud represented as an "alien UFO" (whatever that may mean), I see either clouds or things that are supposed to represent things like the annunciation, the holly spirit, etc., things that do not have (as far as I know) a specific physical definition.
If you can't ignore the facts then do not ignore the fact that religious art is full of symbolisms specific to it, that's why there are people that spend all their lives studying this subject.

You just made me facepalm!!!
Come on ArMaP, these pics look like *modern*  'Alien UFO's', for you to deny it is NOT you being 'unbiased' !!!!

Since when were 'clouds' depicted as floating 'metal looking' contraptions??v
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Sinny

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 08, 2015, 04:31:47 AM

Well to my eye there are 12 of them around the sun.

Representation of advanced knowledge for initiates?

12 'things' circling the sun... Contellations??? 
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

ArMaP

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
Since when were 'clouds' depicted as floating 'metal looking' contraptions??v
Look at what I wrote: I don't see any cloud represented as an "alien UFO".

That means that I don't see any cloud depicted as a "floating 'metal looking' contraption", I see clouds as clouds and other objects as things that are not clouds.

I think I will start writing in Portuguese, as, apparently, nobody understands my English in this thread.  ::)

ArMaP

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
12 'things' circling the sun... Contellations???
I suppose you didn't see my post.  ::)

A51Watcher

Quote from: Sinny on August 08, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
12 'things' circling the sun... Contellations???

Perhaps Velikovsky and Sitchin's 12th planet?

"the influences we get from today's society" may give us perspective on what the advanced initiate view was, represented in the paintings.


space otter



ya know  sometimes when I read answers I think you guys are all playin at messin with each others brain..i really do


how about this

religious painting
12  stars -  twelve apostles
sun  - son of god..

try the kiss method of  interpretation



A51Watcher

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Quote from: space otter on August 08, 2015, 11:07:13 PM

ya know  sometimes when I read answers I think you guys are all playin at messin with each others brain..i really do


how about this

religious painting
12  stars -  twelve apostles
sun  - son of god..

try the kiss method of  interpretation




In the time frame those paintings depict, Jesus had no apostles.




ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 09, 2015, 12:16:25 AM
At the time those paintings depict, Jesus had no apostles.
That's what I have been saying, the paintings are not supposed to show things as they happened (if they really happened as told), they represent what the people paying for the paintings wanted to see, the interpretation of the events that was accepted as being the right one at the time the paintings were made.

It's the same thing as those paintings that show people dressed as if Jesus lived in Europe during the Renaissance instead of Judea 2000 years ago, they show what people wanted to see at the time the paintings were made.

A51Watcher

Quote from: ArMaP on August 09, 2015, 12:22:37 AM
It's the same thing as those paintings that show people dressed as if Jesus lived in Europe during the Renaissance instead of Judea 2000 years ago, they show what people wanted to see at the time the paintings were made.

Not all paintings show that, many depict Judea 2000 years ago.

The one common thread they DO all have in common is UFO's in the sky.

The people paying for the paintings all wanted to have that. 





ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 09, 2015, 12:32:21 AM
Not all paintings show that, many depict Judea 2000 years ago.
Any of the paintings posted on this thread are included in that category?

QuoteThe one common thread they DO all have in common is UFO's in the sky.
Which ones, the ones that represent Judea as it was 2000 years ago or the others? The others do not show UFOs because they were supposed to be identified.

QuoteThe people paying for the paintings all wanted to have that.
Sure, as that was the way of representing those things.