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Started by astr0144, December 11, 2015, 12:08:16 AM

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astr0144

At the moment at least in the US and UK..and I am sure in most of the World who are Muslims..

There is a lot being discussed about Donald Trumps recent comments...

There seems quite a variation on how his comments are being interpretated.

Many on a UK TV polictical discussion Program seem to be condeming him at the moment and some are suggesting he may be the Next Hilter and are concerned he may make President.

Others may think at least hes trying to find out what is going on and trying to address it..if it is something getting out of hand that the Government may have lost control on or even created some issues...for eg if some of the things Alex Jones suggest may be true...such as are the powers that be trying to flood immigrants into the western World...for what ever agenda that may have..


Some of the details as discussed by  Alex Jones...I have not as yet watched any of them, so I can only assume that it gives some detailed explanations...


Trump Vs. the Muslims -




Carter Agrees With Trump On Muslim Ban


funbox

the thing I don't get is how people are branding him a racist.. last time I heard that was a label used for prejudice against race/skin-color , not prejudice against an ideology/theology/religion

seems like the medias gone even more crazy to the point incorrect labelling

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Ellirium113


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Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 11, 2015, 02:09:21 AM


yes indeed .. double think never gets old does it :D , the media is painful to see atm

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astr0144

#4
You make a good point Funbox !

Also Muslims do come in various Colored races.

I am not sure what Religion if any Obama maybe..

But if he was Muslim, that certainly would be a conflicting situation in the USA.

At the moment as I understood Trumps comments when I caught a clip on TV  (I did not see the news for a few days so didnt get the story earlier on in detail)..

All he has said is he is indicating that they put a stop to ALL Muslims entering the USA... Until he or whoever finds out whats going on.
Hes not suggested a permanent ban..

But at the same time I can see many Muslims will see that offensive.... and hes possibly opened up a situation that really could get out of hand...

I am not sure how he would suggest stopping all Muslims... even temporary.. as many will be all Professions and many I am sure would visit the USA on business daily..and they will not been seen as being a threat...in the same way that maybe some could vision the migrant types who some may be seen as being possible terrorist...or more likely to be wanting to enter other countries fleeing from their own.

Its being suggested that Trump should come to the UK and explain himself..with most shown so far on the News as being against him and suggesting his view points as being one thing..

Then a news clip claimed he wrote on Twitter to explain his comments...to the UK...which I think still suggested that the U.K don't understand whats really going on !


Quote from: funbox on December 11, 2015, 01:34:35 AM
the thing I don't get is how people are branding him a racist.. last time I heard that was a label used for prejudice against race/skin-color , not prejudice against an ideology/theology/religion

seems like the medias gone even more crazy to the point incorrect labelling

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astr0144

Quote from: astr0144 on December 11, 2015, 12:08:16 AM
At the moment at least in the US and UK..and I am sure in most of the World who are Muslims..

There is a lot being discussed about Donald Trumps recent comments...and  quite a variation on how his comments are being interpretated.

Many on a UK TV polictical discussion Program seem to be condeming him at the moment and some are suggesting he may be the Next Hilter and are concerned he may make President.

Others may think at least hes trying to find out what is going on and trying to address it..if it is something getting out of hand that the Government may have lost control on or even created some issues...for eg if some of the things Alex Jones suggest may be true...such as are the powers that be trying to flood immigrants into the western World...for what ever agenda that may have..


Some of the details as discussed by  Alex Jones...I have not as yet watched any of them, so I can only assume that it gives some detailed explanations...


Trump Vs. the Muslims -




Carter Agrees With Trump On Muslim Ban



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Quote from: astr0144 on December 11, 2015, 02:30:15 AM

Then a news clip claimed he wrote on Twitter to explain his comments...to the UK...which I think still suggested that the U.K don't understand whats really going on !

ah , the "you should be thanking me" bit

so what gives Astro ? what's with all the misrepresentations, surely someone's in a high place, with a good view to gander ...

*a wickedly evil looking mfb steps out of a foul smelling portal ,guffs, and shouts " an eee's not talkin about the sniper, in the nest eva" *

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astr0144

#7
I think, like many things... one can see or envision so many possible variations as to what may or may not be going on..for eg with this recent situation.

Anyone who has followed Alex Jones and may take his main viewpoints as being the more likely real truth...

or can so many Politicians, authorities and those who many believe on TV and the media really be wrong !

Like we also see with the arguements for Climate Change..
It seems so ofter on discussion programs that most still seem to support the Governments views that we do have such isses and that they are not seen by Scientists as being possibly natural changes that occur to our Planet due to astronomical / solar events etc..

Are they ALL in some sort of major conspiracy to serve certain Powers agendas..or do they just go along with the views when they arise..



overall who do the majority really believe ? I wonder ....
even when they may come across the likes of A.Js views..

(AJ may be one of the largest conspiricist around ) but world wide he may not really still be well known..% wise..

One thing that just came into my mind (For Now)..

Sometimes ones mind, may consider opposing views to what initially they may have earlier / previously considered..even if just for a short time ! while trying to reanalyse what maybe going on !  :-\..or maybe ones mind is just over thinking.. I dont know !  :)

If say Alex Jones was a SCRILL... He recently had Donald Trump on his show..and they both seemed to have similar views.

If say that Alex Jones is a plant to actually create ISSUES rather than oppose what he describes as the NWOs evil plans..

Then there may just be a possibility, that IF somehow Donald Trump did have some evil intentions ..such as being a Hitler type character... then what is happening now...maybe seen as a possible clever way to really create havoc !

As much as I do not like the idea of the western World being flooded by Migrants ...as they maybe seen as a threat..to our own peoples jobs, and  security etc in certain cases...

an opposing view is some migration  can be a benefit..
bring in some needed skills professions and labour in certain cases.
(But do we only get judged on what we are able to do ..not as a individual)

One view, we can sometime take, is all humans / races should have equal rights and should Not be restricted.

In the eg we see now... one group of people are in a way being possibly targeted or picked on..

So in that respect Trumps views may be seen as being wrong !

IN WW2 when Hitler wanted to wipe out other races ...Most of the rest of the world opposed him..

I suppose in reality I really don't know for sure at the moment what the real answers are...as it depends on ones own views and maybe how we feel at the time..and maybe ones views can alter or we just see other possible variational possibilities..and get even more unsure what the answers are !




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ill just read this article on the second coming and get back to you.. need to get a better understanding of the prophesies , that, I do believe are root cause..

around a day or so :D

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/363/return-of-jesus-part-1/

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astr0144

That was quite some speech by Paul J Watson.

Don't think I have seen him quite so fired up before ...

It Offers so many facts to consider in this situation...with several of  them needing to be noted..



Quote from: Ellirium113 on December 11, 2015, 02:09:21 AM


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and so he should be , im on chapter four , and apparently unbeliever's like him are mere food for the destroyers Gog and Magog.. *insert whistle jingle  here*

oddly chapter three appears to be missing

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astr0144

An updated article that just came up on Yahoo.



US presidential hopeful Donald Trump on Thursday said Britain should be grateful for his investment in the country as a record number of people signed a petition to ban him from entry.
The Republican frontrunner said Britain was trying to disguise a "massive Muslim problem" as politicians queued up to denounce him over his latest outspoken remarks.
Trump has called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States after the mass shooting in California by a Muslim couple said to have been radicalised.
A record 450,000 people have signed a petition on the British government website calling for him to be banned from the UK.
But the tycoon said British politicians were "pandering to political correctness" as the country ditched him as a business ambassador and a university revoked his honorary doctorate.
He should instead be thanked for investing in Scotland, he said.
"The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening, very sad! Be honest," Trump said on Twitter.
"Many people in the UK agree with me!"
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has revoked his membership of the GlobalScot business network, saying he was no longer fit to act as a business ambassador for Scotland.
Meanwhile Robert Gordon University (RGU) in Aberdeen, on the northeast Scottish coast, revoked the doctorate of business administration he was awarded in 2010.
Trump, whose mother was a Scot, owns two golf courses in Scotland -- one outside Aberdeen and Trump Turnberry on the southwest coast.
Writing in The Press and Journal, a Scottish regional newspaper, the tycoon said that he should be thanked instead of being castigated.
"I have done so much for Scotland," the 69-year-old said.
"If they -- Nicola Sturgeon and RGU -- were going to do this, they should have informed me prior to my major investment in this £200 million ($300 million, 275 million euro) development, which will totally revitalise that vast region of Scotland.
"The UK politicians should be thanking me instead of pandering to political correctness."
Meanwhile a petition seeking to ban Trump from Britain -- started before his latest outburst -- has topped 450,000 signatures in the wake of his views on Muslim immigration.
It overtook the petitions "Accept more asylum seekers and increase support for refugee migrants in the UK" and "Stop all immigration and close the UK borders until ISIS (the Islamic State jihadist group) is defeated", which both have more than 440,000 signatories.
A "Don't ban Trump" counter-petition has received more than 17,500 signatures.
Petitions that top 100,000 are considered for debate in parliament.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-politicians-thank-trump-153948419.html#2TVpQuu

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im figuring him as Gog , I don't think Magog would style *^&%$ 's hair in such a way.

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*no available noun :D

rdunk

#13
Well- - - regardless of opinions, the President of the United States, as by determined law, has the authority to do that which Donald Trump has suggested that he would do if elected. Even Jimmy Carter, a Democrat President, did similarly with Iranians during his term of office. The law is well established, as noted in the attached screenshot! So, a lot of people need "to get over it"!

Personally, I believe most US citizens will agree that until we have a good way to completely vet muslim immigration, muslim immigration does need to be STOPPED, because of the severe threat of terrorist possibilities.

Of course, and obviously, the life in the islam faith is totally and diametrically opposed to the tenants of life and liberty in the United States, especially for women, regardless of whether or not there is any terrorism. Islam will never stop its cause to gain total control of life and law (Shira), in the United States of America, and the whole earth!!!!!!!!



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Quote from: rdunk on December 11, 2015, 04:21:46 AM
Well- - - regardless of opinions, the President of the United States, as by determined law, has the authority to do that which Donald Trump has suggested that he would do if elected. Even Jimmy Carter, a Democrat President, did similarly with Iranians during his term of office. The law is well established, as noted in the attached screenshot! So, a lot of people need "to get over it"!

Personally, I believe most US citizens will agree that until we have a good way to completely vet muslim immigration, muslim immigration does need to be STOPPED, because of the severe threat of terrorist possibilities.

Of course, and obviously, the life in the islam faith is totally and diametrically opposed to the tenants of life and liberty in the United States, especially for women, regardless of whether or not there is any terrorism. Islam will never stop its cause to gain total control of life and law (Shira), in the United States of America, and the whole earth!!!!!!!!



I think its about time for that invasion, are we thoroughly mixed yet >? *insert planetary ideological reset here*

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