Donald Trumps comments on Muslims.

[ArMaP]

Banning people from a specific religion from entering the country it's not the same thing as banning people from a specific country, but I think that even that is a stupid move.

One thing that has not been talked about (as far as I have seen) is what should be done about the Muslims living in the US, put them in those famous FEMA camps?

To me, Trump is being used as a test case, to see what people are willing to accept or not.

[zorgon]

[zorgon]

I am not sure what Religion if any Obama maybe..
But if he was Muslim, that certainly would be a conflicting situation in the USA.

[zorgon]

Trump Polling Lead Surges After Anti-Muslim Comments

Donald Trump, GOP frontrunner and self-styled anti-establishment candidate, knows how to entertain.

He also understands that he has built a political brand which garners momentum from the very type of controversy that would sink any other candidate in the field.

When you put those two things together, you have a recipe for bombastic rhetoric designed to hold the electorate in a perpetual state of shock and embed a tiny voice that says "you know, maybe he's right" in the back of voters' collective mind.

The genius of Trump is that he's been remarkably adept at making voters question whether what he says is actually crazy or just sounds that way because Americans have been conditioned to recoil at anything that breaks decorum or sounds like it might not be "PC." And that plays right into his message. He makes you wonder if it's you that's the crazy one. Perhaps you've been put in a stupor by years of watered down stump speeches and Trump is just speaking plainly and saying what everyone knows is true but is too scared to say in public. If that's true, he's a kind of nationalistic Morpheus trying to pull you out of a dangerous, misplaced multiculturalism Matrix. Or at least that's what he wants you to think. It could be that he is exactly what his detractors say he is: a demagogue that's stark raving mad.

As we said earlier this week, voters will ultimately decide what Trump is or isn't and render their judgement at the polls and make no mistake, the Donald's controversial suggestion that Muslims should be banned from entering the country has resonated with large swaths of the electorate and a new poll shows that in South Carolina, Trump has opened up a commanding lead since creating a firestorm on Monday.

"It's no wonder Trump is leading," GOP mouthpiece Fox News (which has had its differences with Trump this year) says. "He's ahead among both those who prioritize national security and economic issues.  He's the top pick among voters on the two most important candidate qualities -- strong leader and, to a lesser degree, honest and trustworthy.  Plus, he's considered the most electable -- by a lot."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-10/trump-polling-lead-surges-after-anti-muslim-comments

[zorgon]

BTW  Has anyone noticed THIS?

[zorgon]

Even the Mainstream Media has had enough of Obama

Obama slammed by media for ISIS response and strategy

[zorgon]

Obama Bows to Saudi King



As Leader of one of the most powerful Nations Obama should NOT have bowed. Protocol for bowing would have been a nod of the head while maintaining eye contact as a sign of respect for an equal.. NOT bowing like a VASSAL

Unless of course you ARE a VASSAL 





Now I need to add some more context to this .... 

[zorgon]

Not many people know this, even though a 12 year old girl showed that ALL the Presidents except one are connected by blood.  And no the one is NOT Obama



Now it gets weird. How many have seen Bush bow to the Saudi King?  Yes yes he was accepting a medal of some kind

Point is despite what Snopes says  despite what FAUX news said  here it is  Bush Bowing to the Saudi King and getting his reward

[zorgon]

Now for the REALLY WEIRD part...

















There are LOTS more  but you can see why we are in a MESS

[zorgon]

The Bush-Saudi Connection
By Michelle Mairesse

With C.I.A. funding, Osama bin Laden imported engineers and equipment from his father's Saudi construction company to build tunnels for guerrilla training centers and hospitals, and for arms dumps near the Pakistan border. After the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, the C.I.A. and the Pakistani intelligence agency sponsored the Taliban organization, a government composed of the fanatic Wahhabi Islamic sect, the same sect that is the state religion in Saudi Arabia. Although followers of the Wahhabi sect do not refer to themselves as Wahhabis, the label is useful because it applies to a single Muslim group with a set of beliefs peculiar to them alone: Wahhabis maintain that Shi'ites and Sufis are not Muslims, and that Muslims should not visit shrines or celebrate Mohammed's birthday. (3)

The Saudi sheiks have been Wahhabis since they intermarried with the family of a puritanical Muslim scholar, Mohammed ibn Abd al-Wahhab, in 1774. Supported first by Britain and later by the United States, the Saudis captured the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina, easily gaining control of the entire Arabian peninsula.

Wherever they ruled, the Wahhabis imposed their medieval code on their hapless subjects, making public spectacles of stoning adulterers to death and maiming thieves, destroying decorated mosques and cemeteries, prohibiting music, sequestering women, and promoting war on infidels. The Saudi sheiks have lavished funds on anti-American and anti-Israeli terrorists-in-training while indoctrinating other Muslims through its worldwide network of religious schools, mosques, newspapers, and presses.

Just a few qoutes  This article is very long and detailed  and YES Osama bin Laden was part of this family

The Wahhabi Taliban in Afghanistan had the blessings of the Saudi royal family and of The Big Three--the bin Laden family, the al Ahmoudi family, and the Mahfouz family--the richest clans in that medieval kingdom. (Khalid bin Mahfouz is bin Laden's brother-in-law, according to the C.I.A.). The desert oligarchs profited from world-wide investments as well as sleazy banking schemes such as the infamous Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

Salem bin Laden, Osama's brother, has conducted all his American affairs through James Bath, a Houston crony of the Bush family. Bath's former business partner Bill White testified in court that Bath had been a liaison for the C.I.A. In 1979 Bath invested $50,000 in Arbusto, George W. Bush's first business venture. Rumor had it that Bath was acting as Salem bin Laden's representative. "In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests."

In June 1990, Bush Junior sold his Harken stock for a juicy $848,000, enabling him to pay off the loan he had assumed on buying shares in the Texas Rangers. Never mind that the Harken stock promptly tanked when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, for Abdullah Bakhsh, a major Harken shareholder and an investor in BCCI, who had purchased 17% of Harken Energy in 1987, got his money's worth. By 1990, Bakhsh's representative on Harken's board, Talet Othman, began attending Middle East policy discussions with President Bush Senior.

Now that Bush Junior occupies the White House, Bush Senior receives frequent CIA briefings (his prerogative as a former president). "In July 2001, Bush personally contacted Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah to 'clarify' his son's Middle East policies. Also during the summer of 2001, Bush forwarded his son a North Korea policy plan penned by 'Asia expert' and former ambassador to Korea, Donald Gregg. Gregg is a 31-year CIA veteran and the elder Bush's former national security adviser whose expertise involved participation in the Vietnam-era Phoenix Program (death squads), Air America heroin smuggling, 'pacification' efforts in El Salvador and Guatemala, the 'October Surprise,' and the Iran-Contra operation (for which Gregg received a Bush pardon in 1992)." (20)

Bush Junior has received more than advice from his father. He has taken on the team of hustlers and criminals that worked with George Herbert Walker Bush when he was Vice President and President of the United States of America.

Just as his father did, he invokes executive privilege to hide all evidence of collusion with the petroleum pashas who have enriched the Bushes and intimidated the rest of us.

Sandy Tolan, an I.F. Stone Fellow at the Graduate School of Journalism at UC Berkeley, asserts that what the Bush administration really wants in Iraq is a remapping of the Mideast. "The plan is, in its way, as ambitious as the 1916 Sykes-Picot agreement between the empires of Britain and France, which carved up the region at the fall of the Ottoman Empire. The neo-imperial vision, which can be ascertained from the writings of key administration figures and their co-visionaries in influential conservative think tanks, includes not only regime change in Iraq but control of Iraqi oil, a possible end to the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and newly compliant governments in Syria and Iran -- either by force or internal rebellion."
The Bushes are carriers of the deny-destroy-and-be-damned virus. Prescott Bush never apologized for trading with the Nazis. George Bush Senior professed to know nothing of the drug and arms dealing that funded the bloody, illegal Iran-Contra operations, although it was common knowledge that he directed them. He and his sons enriched themselves through shady real estate deals and financial manipulations that brought down entire banking and savings and loan institutions. They are all consummate inside traders, looting and leaving ruin in their wake.

President-Select George Bush is no exception. He has no scruples about exploiting his office for personal and family gain. The Texas governor who could joke about frying prisoners in the electric chair will not, as president, agonize over the decision to send young men and women into battle--or over denying them medical care when they are injured.



There is irrefutable evidence that highly-placed Saudis aided and supported the terrorists who murdered over 3000 American citizens on September 11, 2001. Yet George Bush persists in protecting and colluding with those who sponsor terrorists. Is this not an an act of treason?

Will George Bush ever be tried and convicted for war crimes?

http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm

[space otter]

To me, Trump is being used as a test case, to see what people are willing to accept or not.

I have to agree with ArMaP here..
I think his rhetoric is a test;
a test for the  popularity  of the things he proposes
a test  before  a major move  of some type in the states
wheather it is a sweep of removing certain folk or a transfer of governing to a certain group..
but it is surely a test of just what can be done to the populace without them rebelling
imo of course

[astr0144]

Is that to suggest that you think that Trump is part of the establishment who ever that maybe..Govt / NWO ... and that he is playing the part for them...and that He was suggested by them to make his statement ?


Or did he make his statement on his own accord and that the Govt/NWO  are now taking advantage of what he has said to see what is likely to happen...or thees a combination of the public challenging him a well as some possible Govt plants...

or something else ?

[astr0144]

Calls to ban Donald Trump from the UK rejected by George Osborne

George Osborne rejects calls for US presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be banned from the UK despite more than 100,000 people signing a petition demanding the move.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/calls-ban-donald-trump-uk-143400289.html

[ArMaP]

Is that to suggest that you think that Trump is part of the establishment who ever that maybe..Govt / NWO ... and that he is playing the part for them...and that He was suggested by them to make his statement ?

Mostly yes.

From what I have seen in recent years, it looks like the presidential candidates in the US are chosen for what they may represent to the public instead of what they propose to do. For example, the choice between Obama and Hilary Clinton looked like a test to see if what some people said (that the US will elect a black president before electing a woman) was true.

Also, their politics, regardless of political side, look too close for people to have a real choice, so they use people that can be chosen for other reasons.

[zorgon]

I have to agree with ArMaP here..
I think his rhetoric is a test;
a test for the  popularity  of the things he proposes
a test  before  a major move  of some type in the states
wheather it is a sweep of removing certain folk or a transfer of governing to a certain group..
but it is surely a test of just what can be done to the populace without them rebelling
imo of course

I agree... and so does FOX NEWS )of all people )