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Experts reveals just what it takes to build a time machine

Started by COSMO, February 25, 2016, 02:13:46 AM

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Dyna

Quote from: robomont on February 26, 2016, 10:53:17 PM
, his mind has become a prison for his own delusions, illusions and vanity."Resolve to be thyself; and know that he who finds himself, loses his misery." ~ Matthew Arnold
Quotebut rather than achieving what he sought, his mind has become a prison for his own delusions, illusions and vanity.  As a result, man is trapped in a cyclical prison that I'm going to call the "mystery of the serpentine mirror."

Know your TRUE self

I still don't see what your saying  ;D
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

COSMO

Quote from: Dyna on February 26, 2016, 11:26:56 PM
Know your TRUE self

I still don't see what your saying  ;D

Not sure what that's got do do with time travel or quantum superposition.  Can you elaborate?

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

COSMO

The Planck scale...

Although in theory it may seem possible to divide time up into infinitely tiny intervals, the smallest physically meaningful interval of time is widely considered to be the Planck time, which is approximately 10-43 seconds. This ultimate limit means that it is not possible for two events to be separated by a time smaller than this.

But now in a new paper, physicists have proposed that the shortest physically meaningful length of time may actually be several orders of magnitude longer than the Planck time. In addition, the physicists have demonstrated that the existence of such a minimum time alters the basic equations of quantum mechanics, and as quantum mechanics describes all physical systems at a very small scale, this would change the description of all quantum mechanical systems.
The researchers, Mir Faizal at the University of Waterloo and University of Lethbridge in Canada, Mohammed M. Khalil at Alexandria University in Egypt, and Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge, have recently published a paper called "Time crystals from minimum time uncertainty" in The European Physical Journal C.
"It might be possible that, in the universe, the minimum time scale is actually much larger than the Planck time, and this can be directly tested experimentally," Faizal told Phys.org.

The Planck time is so short that no experiment has ever come close to examining it directly—the most precise tests can access a time interval down to about 10?17 seconds.
Nevertheless, there is a great deal of theoretical support for the existence of the Planck time from various approaches to quantum gravity, such as string theory, loop quantum gravity, and perturbative quantum gravity. Almost all of these approaches suggest that it is not possible to measure a length shorter than the Planck length, and by extension not possible to measure a time shorter than the Planck time, since the Planck time is defined as the time it takes light to travel a single unit of the Planck length in a vacuum.
Motivated by several recent theoretical studies, the scientists further delved into the question of the structure of time—in particular, the long-debated question of whether time is continuous or discrete.
"In our paper, we have proposed that time is discrete in nature, and we have also suggested ways to experimentally test this proposal," Faizal said.
One possible test involves measuring the rate of spontaneous emission of a hydrogen atom. The modified quantum mechanical equation predicts a slightly different rate of spontaneous emission than that predicted by the unmodified equation, within a range of uncertainty. The proposed effects may also be observable in the decay rates of particles and of unstable nuclei.
Based on their theoretical analysis of the spontaneous emission of hydrogen, the researchers estimate that the minimum time may be orders of magnitude larger than the Planck time, but no greater than a certain amount, which is fixed by previous experiments. Future experiments could lower this bound on the minimum time or determine its exact value.
The scientists also suggest that the proposed changes to the basic equations of quantum mechanics would modify the very definition of time. They explain that the structure of time can be thought of as a crystal structure, consisting of discrete, regularly repeating segments.
On a more philosophical level, the argument that time is discrete suggests that our perception of time as something that is continuously flowing is just an illusion.
"The physical universe is really like a movie/motion picture, in which a series of still images shown on a screen creates the illusion of moving images," Faizal said. "Thus, if this view is taken seriously, then our conscious precipitation of physical reality based on continuous motion becomes an illusion produced by a discrete underlying mathematical structure."
"This proposal makes physical reality platonic in nature," he said, referring to Plato's argument that true reality exists independent of our senses. "However, unlike other theories of platonic idealism, our proposal can be experimentally tested and not just be argued for philosophically."


http://phys.org/news/2016-02-physicists-implications-quantum-mechanics-philosophy.html



Yes, creating the illusion of continuous motion, creating an illusion of a "past" and a "future".  What we perceive as time is just a series of instances, moments of NOW, stored between your ears and strung together into the reality we observe.  MAYA

Cosmo
And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?

Dyna

Quote from: COSMO on February 27, 2016, 12:00:48 AM
Not sure what that's got do do with time travel or quantum superposition.  Can you elaborate?

Cosmo
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My link was the discussion concerning mirrors serpent eating tail, symbolism of  cyclical wheel of time. I thought it relevant and interesting.

QuoteI propose that in order to understand the nature of man's psyche, the objective world and spacetime, rather than the modern approach of mere linguistic expression, symbology should be sought as the primary means of conveying the truth.
http://jaysanalysis.com/2013/09/05/the-mystery-of-the-serpentine-mirror/

I guess this statement got me off topic.
Quotedyna ,your mirror quote and your second signature seem to be in controversy to each other.
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

COSMO

Quote from: Dyna on February 27, 2016, 06:29:37 PM
http://jaysanalysis.com/2013/09/05/the-mystery-of-the-serpentine-mirror/

I guess this statement got me off topic.

I see, thanks Dyna.  Have you looked in biocentrism?  I think it has great value.  We must keep in mind the nature of the quantum wave realm as indicated by the double slit experiment.  Particles have a wave/particle duality and our material world is only realized upon the instant of observation.  That raw, quantum ocean is the energetic dimension of time, but it is not the concept of a past and future that is stored in our brain chemistry as memories.  This material reality is created each instant of wave collapse.  It is a ongoing, never ending process and it happens faster than light.  This has been verified in the labs. 

What I am currently going into and trying to gain a better vision of, is that translation phase.  It happens faster than light so thought is not the proper tool as all of our organic brain activity is all post collapse, an instant AFTER the observation, an instant after the act of material creation.  Our consciousness is integral to that and that is why I think biocentrism has value.  We are beings with a dual nature but for the most part folks are stuck in one, living in the creation while losing sight of the ACT of creation. 

Here is the interesting point for me.  What is it that determines that we all experience THIS reality???  What makes water water and trees trees, etc.  Why do we all experience this world the same?  That points to a collective unconsciousness(Jung...love that guy) that acts as the receiver(transactional interpretation of quantum mechanics...which I think is totally accurate) and creates this universe according to something like a template. (in Hinduism this is relegated to various deities...just aspects of the creation process)  I do know that this collective unconsciousness is NON-LOCAL and I think that explains it.  When I talk about that type of consciousness, I am not talking about human thought.  That's all between your ears.



Cosmo 

And you may ask yourself
Well...How did I get here?