Tourists Family Arrested by Cammo Dudes at Area 51 Driving Thru Main Entrance.

[A51Watcher]

If it is really there.. what would we really see I wonder, or is it not really there is the question ? and its just a radiated old desert dried up lake bed.

So riddle me this -

If it is not really there and just a radiated old desert dried up lake bed, why does it need stadium lighting on test nights?




https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aLCqcfE2yQ


And why do the gravity propulsion craft being tested return to the S4 facility via a huge McDonalds golden arch path trajectory from the desert floor directly over to the stadium lighting glow on the horizon at Papoose mountain?

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And why do the gravity propulsion craft being tested return to the S4 facility via a huge McDonalds golden arch path trajectory from the desert floor directly to the stadium lighting glow on the horizon at Papoose mountain?

*irritating whistling made by a semi cheeseburger choked mfb* because  they're lovin it ?

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[A51Watcher]

*irritating whistling made by a semi cheeseburger choked mfb* because  they're lovin it ?

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wonder if they cook their cheeseburgers over a nice low anti matter reaction flame.

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wonder if they cook their cheeseburgers over a nice low anti matter reaction flame.

I dunno , just as long as they don't try to eat one whole like this guy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-35490011

there must be some tutting and exaggerated, choked laughing, wherever his adventurous essence lies

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[zorgon]

you reckon 3 million to be on the safe side then ?

wouldn't work  no infrastructure in the area to support anywhere near that number No water,  no toilets, desert heat   

[zorgon]

So its been 25 years since Bob showed us the tests..

How long they need to test these things before we can deploy the fleet?

[A51Watcher]

So its been 25 years since Bob showed us the tests..

How long they need to test these things before we can deploy the fleet?

About the same amount of time it would take a tribe of apes to back engineer a hand grenade. 

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wouldn't work  no infrastructure in the area to support anywhere near that number No water,  no toilets, desert heat

I'm sure people wouldn't mind resorting to cannibalism given the cause, maybe an extra mill to eat, should cover it , siege warfare etc etc

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[astr0144]

As I have never seen the test flights..I can only relate to yours and Bobs & his associates experiences.

I have however seen the area at both the day and night..
so I have a very good idea what it maybe like.

I did witness what I initially had thought was a Mother Ship raising above the mountain range towards Area 51..

But I was later informed it was more likely Flares...But the effects were still amazing to see and before I got to know that the experience to me was like seeing the real thing..

Seeing a very bright light in a very dark sky ..rise up at a guess a 100 ft above the mountain ridge and just hover there.. and then very slowly descend back below the horizon and see the light fade out.

Now I am certain that was at Area 51 Groom Lake and NOT from Papoose...

I cannot really envision what you suggest in what you say you have witnessed being able to tell where the craft may have gone to  once it went over the initial mountain ridge facing Area 51..

To get to Papoose it would then have to either go South and later turn right (West) and either gone around the South end of Papoose and then headed back North once at the Lake bed.. or fly over or around North of the ridge between Groom Lake and Papoose Lake..

They say NO one at Area 51 ever new about S4 or the Saucer flights...So Unless they flew the Saucers around to avoid Groom lake / Area 51 to the other side of the mountains towards the 375 highway... I don't really understand..

They may have come down from the South of Tikaboo valley.. between the Mountain ridge East of A51 /Groom Lake and the 375 HW or on level with it as  the Tikaboo Mountain range.  By doing that they could avoid detection from any Area 51 Staff should any be outside the facility..

That's the only way I could see them do it , unless they flew a lot higher or cloaked and went right over the top of Papoose ridge to Papoose Lake bed.


You could see some glowing light towards the South West if I recall.. that may have been more in the direction of Papoose which is South to South west of the Groom Lake Road or Black mail box area..

But I am not sure if that may have been from Pahrump that is quite another large city that is maybe about 80 miles west of Las Vegas.. you can see a glow above the horizon in that direction.

maybe something like this but perhaps not as much glow.






There is quite a difference between that type of glow and what you would see if you were looking even at Area 51 from Tikaboo at night..   The Glow from the effects of the lighting at Groom Lake is certainly different than that from a main city like Las Vegas or Pahrump that maybe 80 to 100 miles away..



Although another similarity maybe twilight or before and after the Sun rises or sets...depending upon the timing of it to get similar effects as city light glow.







I would think any lighting at Papoose Lake could NOT be detected from the Groom Lake Rd or HW 375 area...

And why do the gravity propulsion craft being tested return to the S4 facility via a huge McDonalds golden arch path trajectory from the desert floor directly over to the stadium lighting glow on the horizon at Papoose mountain?

[astr0144]

This is a picture of the most persons that I have seen at the Area 51 entrance where the warning signs are Funbox !

The month: June (the 6th month of the year)

The day:  6th

The hour: 6AM

Is it the second coming? Wait, it's 6AM on 6/6/2000. 666! Is it the revelation of the anti-Christ (Bill Gates? Dr. Gene Scott?)  No, it's the People's Rally held at the front gate of Area 51. This photo is of the masses (OK, maybe 30 people) heading towards the warning signs at the border of the military base that the government denies exists.

that's if "we the people" can draw their attention from the black/white/race/politics/self ego interest, consumerism that will eventually consume/and all the other fickle nonsense

familys welcome too , bring the kids! , they'd love to see a spaceship.. and who would shoot them if we gave them a kitten each

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This is a picture of the most persons that I have seen at the Area 51 entrance where the warning signs are Funbox ! ]

they look relatively kitted , so realistically what do we need for such a mind bending axe wound to reality as sieging area 51 ?

as Zorgon said , its an arid environ , so groups would have to bring fully laden *fire engines ..good for water and battering down fences etc. others , lorry's laden with  food . a backpack with essentials should be had by all, coupled with a  will to change the future, .

I guess the migration would be followed by the media , once that happens , how many more will jump on the bandwagon..?

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[A51Watcher]

I cannot really envision what you suggest in what you say you have witnessed being able to tell where the craft may have gone to  once it went over the initial mountain ridge facing Area 51..

Pretty simple actually, as you saw in the video there were 2 glows on the horizon, the craft flew to the smaller one on the left.


To get to Papoose it would then have to either go South and later turn right (West) and either gone around the South end of Papoose and then headed back North once at the Lake bed.. or fly over or around North of the ridge between Groom Lake and Papoose Lake..

They say NO one at Area 51 ever new about S4 or the Saucer flights...So Unless they flew the Saucers around to avoid Groom lake / Area 51 to the other side of the mountains towards the 375 highway... I don't really understand..

They may have come down from the South of Tikaboo valley.. between the Mountain ridge East of A51 /Groom Lake and the 375 HW or on level with it as  the Tikaboo Mountain range.  By doing that they could avoid detection from any Area 51 Staff should any be outside the facility..

That's the only way I could see them do it , unless they flew a lot higher or cloaked and went right over the top of Papoose ridge to Papoose Lake bed.

There was no attempt to hide on the return flight to the base. As I said it was a huge McDonalds arch from the desert floor back to the glow at papoose. anybody outdoors at Groom could have easily seen it.



You could see some glowing light towards the South West if I recall.. that may have been more in the direction of Papoose which is South to South west of the Groom Lake Road or Black mail box area..

But I am not sure if that may have been from Pahrump that is quite another large city that is maybe about 80 miles west of Las Vegas.. you can see a glow above the horizon in that direction.

maybe something like this but perhaps not as much glow.


It was quite easy to tell which glow was coming from where. Way off to the left was the huge glow from Las Vegas.Way off to the right where Rachel was there was no glow.
Dead center was the big glow from Groom lake, and off to the left of that was the smaller glow from S4. Which by the way turned off a few minutes after the craft had returned to base. The glow from Groom lake stayed on.
In the dark of night it is quite easy to see horizon glows and determine where they are coming from.



I would think any lighting at Papoose Lake could NOT be detected from the Groom Lake Rd or HW 375 area...


Apparently they have enough stadium lighting that it was quite easy to see the glow from HWY 375, and using the mountain ridge line as a reference quite easy to pinpoint it's source.

The spacing between the glows was exactly as you see depicted in the google earth map.

[A51Watcher]

they look relatively kitted , so realistically what do we need for such a mind bending axe wound to reality as sieging area 51 ?

as Zorgon said , its an arid environ , so groups would have to bring fully laden *fire engines ..good for water and battering down fences etc. others , lorry's laden with  food . a backpack with essentials should be had by all, coupled with a  will to change the future, .

I guess the migration would be followed by the media , once that happens , how many more will jump on the bandwagon..?

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And what will the masses find there? New stealth technology aircraft at Groom Lake? Empty offices at S4?

Most will be sorely disappointed when they find no trace of aliens or spaceships there.

It is no secret that they moved the alien stuff in 1993.

There have been zero sightings and amazing film taken there since 1993.

To where it was moved is still conjecture for most.

Breaking in to Area 51 itself would be a big waste of time.

Those people walking down the road towards the signs are obviously not up on current events either.

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Breaking in to Area 51 itself would be a big waste of time.

are you going to tell the kids holding kittens ?
what a disappointment for them

im sure an event such as four million people turning up , would go down in the annuals of history

where was you the day groom lake got swamped ?

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[A51Watcher]

where was you the day groom lake got swamped ?

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At Dugway? 

The question I have been asking for years is where the hell was you back in the early 90's when you could watch flying saucers from public land?