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Water, atmosphere and life on the Moon

Started by vril-ya, March 24, 2016, 01:49:28 AM

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vril-ya

#105
ok, how do you account for this "little" discrepancy we see here?

apollo 17 over tsiolkovsky compared to tsiolkovsky by lunar reconnaissance orbiter





Quote from: ArMaP on April 04, 2016, 11:13:26 PM
That's right, I put fake in quotes because I don't think they are fake.

You are the one saying they are fake, you are the one that should provide information showing they are fake.

ArMaP

Quote from: vril-ya on April 04, 2016, 11:52:36 PM
ok, how do you account for this "little" discrepancy we see here?
Could you be more specific? What discrepancy are you talking about?

vril-ya

you must be joking, but here is a comparison anyway.



Quote from: ArMaP on April 05, 2016, 12:09:39 AM
Could you be more specific? What discrepancy are you talking about?

vril-ya

Grey moon
You saw me standing alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own


ArMaP

Quote from: vril-ya on April 05, 2016, 12:30:08 AM
you must be joking, but here is a comparison anyway.
No, I'm not joking, but as I don't know what you're thinking about I don't know what am I suppose to be looking at.

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The first thing I notice is, obviously, the difference in colour, but that means very little, considering the bad quality of the video.

I also see that the two photos are not in the same position, the one on the right should rotate 90º counter-clockwise to be aligned in the same way as the one on the left.

vril-ya

really? i guess then that "bad quality" gave it oolor and contrast.


Quote from: ArMaP on April 05, 2016, 01:48:54 AM
No, I'm not joking, but as I don't know what you're thinking about I don't know what am I suppose to be looking at.

The first thing I notice is, obviously, the difference in colour, but that means very little, considering the bad quality of the video.

I also see that the two photos are not in the same position, the one on the right should rotate 90º counter-clockwise to be aligned in the same way as the one on the left.

ArMaP

Quote from: vril-ya on April 05, 2016, 01:57:25 AM
really? i guess then that "bad quality" gave it oolor and contrast.
It can happen with conversion from different video or film formats. Do we have any official source for that video?

vril-ya

#112
or it can happen when u r a shill and common sense and reason have no meaning to u..

"That's right, I put fake in quotes because I don't think they are fake."




Quote from: ArMaP on April 05, 2016, 09:23:43 AM
It can happen with conversion from different video or film formats. Do we have any official source for that video?

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on April 04, 2016, 11:29:50 PM
As usual, I don't understand what you mean. ???

im sure you understand what I mean , but do you understand what Pato Banton means?,

funbox

ArMaP

Quote from: vril-ya on April 05, 2016, 10:54:18 AM
or it can happen when u r a shill and common sense and reason have no meaning to u..
I'm not a shill, but I can't really answer about common sense and reason, as I'm not the best person to judge myself on those topics. ;)

Different people, when looking at the same data, may come to different conclusions, that's why some people vote for a candidate and other people vote for another one, or why some people prefer to follow a soccer club instead of another.

To me, when I look at photos, the first thing I do is trying to find the best version of the photo, as that may make a huge difference, specially when talking about photos from old sites, that are usually smaller and either JPGs with strong compression (and a lot of artefacts) or GIFs that can only show 256 colours (although that doesn't make a difference in greyscale photos). If I find a better version I work with that.

One thing I can see on the photos you joined under "TRUTH" all have lower quality than the ones under "LIE".

There's even a curious case, the case of that image from a Lunar Orbiter I photo that you found on a video. If that's a photo why are you using the image captured from the video and not the real photo?

Here's the version available on the Lunar and Planetary Institute, but you're probably going to say it's fake. :)


Different opinions help people understand what surrounds them (and sometimes it even helps them understand themselves), just because other people have a different opinion it doesn't mean they are your enemies.

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on April 05, 2016, 04:11:40 PM
im sure you understand what I mean , but do you understand what Pato Banton means?
If I say I don't understand then it means I don't understand, I don't lie.

As for understanding what Pato Banton means I don't have the slightest idea, as I didn't watch the video (I hate videos and I don't like Reggae).

vril-ya

i didn't expect u'll admit it, but, as master said, "ye shall know them by their fruits". how strange that real photos are so hard to find and usually in lower resolution, how strange. if resolution was a measure of truthfulness, then how good a movie is would be determined by file size. you are the opposition to the truth, the dark side. i don't judge you, you will judge yourself.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 05, 2016, 09:19:57 PM
I'm not a shill, but I can't really answer about common sense and reason, as I'm not the best person to judge myself on those topics. ;)

Different people, when looking at the same data, may come to different conclusions, that's why some people vote for a candidate and other people vote for another one, or why some people prefer to follow a soccer club instead of another.

To me, when I look at photos, the first thing I do is trying to find the best version of the photo, as that may make a huge difference, specially when talking about photos from old sites, that are usually smaller and either JPGs with strong compression (and a lot of artefacts) or GIFs that can only show 256 colours (although that doesn't make a difference in greyscale photos). If I find a better version I work with that.

One thing I can see on the photos you joined under "TRUTH" all have lower quality than the ones under "LIE".

There's even a curious case, the case of that image from a Lunar Orbiter I photo that you found on a video. If that's a photo why are you using the image captured from the video and not the real photo?

Here's the version available on the Lunar and Planetary Institute, but you're probably going to say it's fake. :)


Different opinions help people understand what surrounds them (and sometimes it even helps them understand themselves), just because other people have a different opinion it doesn't mean they are your enemies.

ArMaP

Quote from: vril-ya on April 05, 2016, 11:02:21 PM
how strange that real photos are so hard to find and usually in lower resolution, how strange.
That's probably because you ignore the photos that do not suit your opinion.

Quoteif resolution was a measure of truthfulness, then how good a movie is would be determined by file size.
Not truthfulness, they are one of the measures of quality of a digital photo, regardless of the content. If you work with low quality photos you are analysing more the noise on the image than the image itself, like when people see things on Mars' photos that are only JPEG artefacts.

Quoteyou are the opposition to the truth, the dark side. i don't judge you, you will judge yourself.
Yes, you are judging me, if you weren't you wouldn't be calling me "shill" or "the opposition to the truth".

And yes, I judge myself, constantly.

vril-ya

#118
yes, i am calling u a shill, one of a sleazy kind. you are the one who ignores the photos and videos that don't suit your agenda of deception, promoting airbrushed, decolorized fakery instead of those showing real conditions on the moon.

u are like a robot, programmed to oppose the truth untill your batteries go dead. yet, you are powerless in front of the truth and there's nothing u can do to stop it. it will only become more and more revealed and your satanic agenda exposed.






Quote from: ArMaP on April 06, 2016, 12:53:58 AM
That's probably because you ignore the photos that do not suit your opinion.
Not truthfulness, they are one of the measures of quality of a digital photo, regardless of the content. If you work with low quality photos you are analysing more the noise on the image than the image itself, like when people see things on Mars' photos that are only JPEG artefacts.
Yes, you are judging me, if you weren't you wouldn't be calling me "shill" or "the opposition to the truth".

And yes, I judge myself, constantly.

Sinny

#119
Quote from: vril-ya on April 06, 2016, 02:36:53 AM
yes, i am calling u a shill, one of a sleazy kind. you are the one who ignores the photos and videos that don't suit your agenda of deception, promoting airbrushed, decolorized fakery instead of those showing real conditions on the moon.

u are like a robot, programmed to oppose the truth untill your batteries go dead. yet, you are powerless in front of the truth and there's nothing u can do to stop it. it will only become more and more revealed and your satanic agenda exposed.



I'd lay off the Hatonn material, got sucked in myself at one point.
I done a lot of research of the publishing team/s (Broad context)... Don't lead anywhere good.
Some of the info is good.. But bypass the tainted secondary sources, and go straight for the primary.
If you can.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK