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Started by vril-ya, April 07, 2016, 01:54:34 PM

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vril-ya

it's underground etc,,brotherhoods use it since fall of atlantis..also many races underground et and not et, also in higher plane inside earth, so here but in next dimension. all of them use it. then private and government secret development, they use it. also god known how many private inventors using it, weather gravitational or inertial, they go around unnoticed. the latter goes back to late 19th century, when many inventors discovered they can make things weightless with voltage and frequency, which led to development of airships which are actually spaceships. there is too much to even imagine. focus on fundamental principles. electricity is everything.


Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 09:06:46 PM
I am not sure if there is any 100% proof that there is such a Craft that can use A.G to lift off from earth and go into Space...

We see or read about  many types of Flying crafts..Many we assume are Manmade....Some maybe E.T if they do exist within our Solar System.

Would not any larger type craft need some sort of powerful Power generation.. to at least operate the electro magnetism effect ?

Not sure with Lazar's suggestions as to exactly what the E115 effect may have the craft once outside the Earths gravity effects if say then reaching Speed of light or beyond..or travelling very larger distances..

Is it a case that the more Power generation a Craft has the better it may travel in varying conditions..?

vril-ya

for power generation, it is simple, permanent magnets are infinite source of power.

astr0144

#17
So are you suggesting that there is no need of any AC or DC power to effect or create any magnetism...like electo magnets..

That just natural type magnets are sufficient !

I am not sure how natural magnets can vary in their magnetism strength effect.... we often may think the larger a magnet the more powerful it is...But that is not always the case I don't think..

so How does one obtain the right type of natural permanent magnet with the right / relevant magnetic effects required I wonder  ?

Are they made / created somehow rather than just natural magnetic materials...


Quote from: vril-ya on April 07, 2016, 09:24:06 PM
for power generation, it is simple, permanent magnets are infinite source of power.

I sort of agree that various manmade craft are like spaceships in their flight principles... except the ones you refer to do not go out of the earths atmosphere..

Yes it does seem Electricity  of one sort or another accounts for some of the effects on craft..

Im not sure how ever if Matrix Traveller had suggested that the Craft he refers to did not reply on electronics...(not sure if the included electricity)

Quoteit's underground etc,,brotherhoods use it since fall of atlantis..also many races underground et and not et, also in higher plane inside earth, so here but in next dimension. all of them use it. then private and government secret development, they use it. also god known how many private inventors using it, weather gravitational or inertial, they go around unnoticed. the latter goes back to late 19th century, when many inventors discovered they can make things weightless with voltage and frequency, which led to development of airships which are actually spaceships. there is too much to even imagine. focus on fundamental principles. electricity is everything.

vril-ya

permanent magnets i meant for a generator, but you could also use it for gravity control as in searl craft or if you made magnets to wobble like david hamel did.

i am also making a magnetic generator based on thomas engel method. i use 8cm ring ferrite magnets. not finished yet, but it has been replicated and it works. here is my own explanation of the principle:

"you take an even number of permanent magnets, best is 4 strong ones and fix them on a rotor in alternating fashion. axial or radial flux, doesn't matter. then you take the same magnet, or pair of them, and mount them on a smaller shaft so that the "mirror" magnets face the rotor magnets. as you rotate this "mirror", rotor will rotate in synch with the "mirror". input energy used to rotate the "mirror" will be amplified at the bigger shaft by the factor of thousands. in other words, very small motor is enough to keep the "mirror" rotating, consuming let's say 1 watt of power and producing, at the bigger shaft, power of kilowatts, depending on the strenght of magnets and rpm."

and here are two videos showing working motors, one axial, other radial..





so, once again, you need a small small motor, using, say, 1 watt to produce kilowatts on the  bigger shaft. simple and beautiful unlimited source of electricity.


Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 09:37:20 PM
So are you suggesting that there is no need of any AC or DC power to effect or create any magnetism...like electo magnets..

That just natural type magnets are sufficient !

I am not sure how natural magnets can vary in their magnetism strength effect.... we often may think the larger a magnet the more powerful it is...But that is not always the case I don't think..

so How does one obtain the right type of natural permanent magnet with the right / relevant magnetic effects required I wonder  ?

Are they made / created somehow rather than just natural magnetic materials...


I sort of agree that various manmade craft are like spaceships in their flight principles... except the ones you refer to do not go out of the earths atmosphere..

Yes it does seem Electricity  of one sort or another accounts for some of the effects on craft..

Im not sure how ever if Matrix Traveller had suggested that the Craft he refers to did not reply on electronics...(not sure if the included electricity)


astr0144

#20
I will try to look into some of this if I can find the time and am in the right frame of mind..Will  need a bit of careful thought and study !

So do you think that you can create a magnetic generator that will give you free electricity on the scale that you need for your house usage ..

That will be very good if you can...I wonder if other PRC members have also done this ?

If you achieve it..Would you consider making some more for those willing to pay ...If so I wonder if you have an idea of what you  would you charge ..!  :)

You may have some potential customers !


Quote from: vril-ya on April 07, 2016, 10:39:48 PM
these, 28 of them i bought for less then 100€ https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/ring-magnets-ferrite/ring-magnet-80mm-x-40mm-x-15mm-ferrite-y35-no-coating_FE-R-80-40-15




I was wondering if there maybe a way to rotate or fast spin opposing magnets in someway..(Not sure if that maybe like creating effects of wobble) if that may create some other stronger effects..

I will try to watch the videos later. or when i can concentrate on them..

On a Quick look at video one....I can see what I think you refer to about the rotating or spinning device with magnets operating another device..

Thought provoking !

Quotepermanent magnets i meant for a generator, but you could also use it for gravity control as in searl craft or if you made magnets to wobble like david hamel did.

i am also making a magnetic generator based on thomas engel method. i use 8cm ring ferrite magnets. not finished yet, but it has been replicated and it works. here is my own explanation of the principle:

"you take an even number of permanent magnets, best is 4 strong ones and fix them on a rotor in alternating fashion. axial or radial flux, doesn't matter. then you take the same magnet, or pair of them, and mount them on a smaller shaft so that the "mirror" magnets face the rotor magnets. as you rotate this "mirror", rotor will rotate in synch with the "mirror". input energy used to rotate the "mirror" will be amplified at the bigger shaft by the factor of thousands. in other words, very small motor is enough to keep the "mirror" rotating, consuming let's say 1 watt of power and producing, at the bigger shaft, power of kilowatts, depending on the strenght of magnets and rpm."

and here are two videos showing working motors, one axial, other radial..

vril-ya

where do you live?

Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 10:53:58 PM
I will try to look into some of this if I can find the time and am in the right frame of mind..

So do you think that you can create a magnetic generator that will give you free electricity on the scale that you need for your house usage ..

That will be very good if you can...I wonder if other PRC members have also done this ?

If you achieve it..Would you consider making some more for those willing to pay ...If so I wonder if you have an idea of what you  would you charge ..!  :)

You may have some potential customers !

astr0144


vril-ya

#23
well, i live in croatia. i already have a potential customer for the first one.
this thing will weigh 10-15kg when finished..i don't know if it would be
practical to send it to uk.

also it will be only a motor, you will still need to buy a generator to attach
to it. i don't know about the output, hope for 3-5kw range.

Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 11:04:36 PM
In the UK..

astr0144

I am not sure about how our Electricity may compare.. ie UK V Croatia in terms of power supply AC mains voltage etc and how that would effect your designs or if some adaptor could be applied if need be..

I am sure that there could be ways to package and post..but Customs (probably if detected ) maybe an issue..

So is this like a smaller power motor that attaches to a Generator but rotates the Generator via a very small power (Watts) supply..but will run a Generator that can magnify that power numerous times.. and its based upon those magnetic principles as shown in the videos ?


Quote from: vril-ya on April 07, 2016, 11:06:56 PM
well, i live in croatia. i already have a potential customer for the first one.
this thing will weigh 10-15kg when finished..i don't know if it would be
practical to send it to uk.

also it will be only a motor, you will still need to buy a generator to attach
to it. i don't know about the output, hope for 3-5kw range.

vril-ya

in uk electricity is the same as here, 230 V, 50 Hz, but that doesn't even matter as motor can run any generator as long as it operates on circa 1500 rpm.

it will be a motor based on same principle from the videos, axial flux.
it will be a relativelly small box, i assume 30x30x30cm.

the small motor will be run from a 12v battery. there is a number of
technical challenges to solve here, nothing too hard, but needs time
and money to pay a turner to make all the parts..we'll see.

Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 11:17:47 PM
I am not sure about how our Electricity may compare.. ie UK V Croatia in terms of power supply AC mains voltage etc and how that would effect your designs or if some adaptor could be applied if need be..

I am sure that there could be ways to package and post..but Customs (probably if detected ) maybe an issue..

So is this like a smaller power motor that attaches to a Generator but rotates the Generator via a very small power (Watts) supply..but will run a Generator that can magnify that power numerous times.. and its based upon those magnetic principles as shown in the videos ?

astr0144

So is the device you are creating classed as the SMALL Motor ?

Is the set up requirements , just a small motor and a generator ? or is there also another larger motor involved..

If its just the Small Motor.. so that runs on DC 12 Volt Battery power supply and not low mains AC Power...

If it can operate on just DC 12 V power and allow a generator to work from it that also can excel the power that will be quite amazing !  but would it give one the same power equivalent as what ones AC mains Power presently gives.. or will it just allow you to use much less electricity overall..or maybe allow you to only use say 50% or a set % of it ?



Quoteit will be a motor based on same principle from the videos, axial flux.
it will be a relativelly small box, i assume 30x30x30cm.

the small motor will be run from a 12v battery. there is a number of
technical challenges to solve here, nothing too hard, but needs time

vril-ya

no, you misunderstood. look at the videos, when i say "small motor" i refer to small motor that turns the "mirror" magnet which in turn turns the big wheel. it will be powerful.


Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
So is the device you are creating classed as the SMALL Motor ?

Is the set up requirements , just a small motor and a generator ? or is there also another larger motor involved..

If its just the Small Motor.. so that runs on DC 12 Volt Battery power supply and not low mains AC Power...

If it can operate on just DC 12 V power and allow a generator to work from it that also can excel the power that will be quite amazing !  but would it give one the same power equivalent as what ones AC mains Power presently gives.. or will it just allow you to use much less electricity overall..or maybe allow you to only use say 50% or a set % of it ?

astr0144

#28
So there is a small motor (that can operate on DC) that helps rotate larger wheel...and once  that larger wheel rotates... the magnetic effects can take place...to operate that via the magnets ..and this is what one would need to connect to ones generator ?

Its the Larger wheel that you are creating ? what is classed as the " Mirror magnet device !



Quoteno, you misunderstood. look at the videos, when i say "small motor" i refer to small motor that turns the "mirror" magnet which in turn turns the big wheel. it will be powerful.

vril-ya

small dc motor turns the mirror magnet, as the mirror magnet turns it attracts and repells magnets on the big wheel making it rotate in sync. due to natural attraction and repulsion of magnets, energy is amplified in form of torque on the shaft of the big wheel and this is where the outside generator is attached. i don't see how i can explain it any simpler than this.


Quote from: astr0144 on April 07, 2016, 11:51:19 PM
So there is a small motor (that can operate on DC) that helps rotate larger wheel...and once  that larger wheel rotates... the magnetic effects can take place...to operate that via the magnets ..and this is what one would need to connect to ones generator ?

Its the Larger wheel that you are creating ? what is classed as the " Mirror magnet device !