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[rdunk]

do you believe we have and are currently being visited by advanced Alien being rdunk ?

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What do I believe??..............

........I believe there is considerable proof on Mars for the existence for what we would term aliens, much of which I have posted here

........I believe there is "seemingly" proof of intervention on the Earth by ones far more advanced than were the Earthlings of the time.

........I believe evidence does exist on Earth for proof of either aliens having been here, or proof for the designer of this Earth having done it         
         in a way to "confound the wise"!!

The situation for many with aliens is maybe much like the conversation between the two caterpillars:

           One caterpillar said to the other caterpillar, "Hey guy, what are those colorful things that we see fluttering about above our heads 
           and all around us"?? And the other caterpillar replied. "Aw you dummy, those are nothing more than some sort of flying bugs"!!     


                                                                       
                                                                 

[ArMaP]

But what I just read is that they are indeed eroded the same way and by the same processes.

Yes, but that article was talking about macrosscale erosion (I suppose I can call it that, I don't know if it's the right name), the erosion that creates gullies like those on the walls of some craters like the one in the article, Terby crater.

For example, in the image below (image G09_021900_1756_XN_04S222W from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's Context Camera) you can see what clearly looks like water (or other liquid) carved channels, both coming from the north into Gale crater and coming from Mount Sharp (at the bottom of the photo).


That (and the finding of clay, that needs water to appear) was one of the reasons they chose Gale crater as the target of Curiosity's mission.

Now, if you look at the image below, taken in the Atacama desert during tests of an ESA self-sterring robot, it does look like Mars, right? But if you look closely at the rocks you will see that they haven't any sharp edges or points.


Compare those rocks with the rocks from Curiosity's photos, like the one below, and you can see what I mean, photos from Mars lack signs (on the rocks) of water (and chemical, something I forgot but saw mentioned while I was looking for photos from the Atacama desert) erosion.


But, having said that, I must also point that when they got the first photos from Curiosity they were happy to see that there were signs of water erosion, as there were pebbles on the ground, like we can see in the photo below.


So, what I have trying to explain, is that when I look at photos from Earth I see that there are types of erosion that are not seen (or seen as weaker) on photos from Mars, where even the wind erosion appears to be weaker, despite the strong Martian winds.

Another difference, Mars rocks appear more porous than Earth rocks of similar type.

[funbox]

What I mean is that if I didn't think of it as black op software then it's not much different from common software. Unless it was made to look like common software.
What I meant was that as I never thought much of popularity it's natural that I don't mind having unpopular thoughts/opinions.

I don't remember seeing you dip out of the mainstream ? can you highlight some instances ?

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[funbox]

What do I believe??..............

........I believe there is considerable proof on Mars for the existence for what we would term aliens, much of which I have posted here

........I believe there is "seemingly" proof of intervention on the Earth by ones far more advanced than were the Earthlings of the time.

........I believe evidence does exist on Earth for proof of either aliens having been here, or proof for the designer of this Earth having done it   in a way to "confound the wise"!!

The situation for many with aliens is maybe much like the conversation between the two caterpillars:

           One caterpillar said to the other caterpillar, "Hey guy, what are those colorful things that we see fluttering about above our heads 
           and all around us"?? And the other caterpillar replied. "Aw you dummy, those are nothing more than some sort of flying bugs"!!     
                                                               

so , do you believe were being visited now ? the recent past ? do you also believe we have alien technology at our disposal ?

if so , why are we using fossil fuelled crafts and robots to visit planets for scientific study ?
could it be that the vast majority of the scientific community need appeasing , that going about it in any other way would reveal dangerous technologies/ideologies to the wider  scientific community, technologies that would make our planet that bit more dangerous. yet, at the same time earths space programmes slowly trickle the idea we are not alone in the universe.

fort had a parable like your caterpillas
we're all deep sea fish, and what would a deep sea fish know, if some flotsam from above came down and bumped it on the nose ?

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[Dyna]

But, having said that, I must also point that when they got the first photos from Curiosity they were happy to see that there were signs of water erosion, as there were pebbles on the ground, like we can see in the photo below.

So, what I have trying to explain, is that when I look at photos from Earth I see that there are types of erosion that are not seen (or seen as weaker) on photos from Mars, where even the wind erosion appears to be weaker, despite the strong Martian winds.

Another difference, Mars rocks appear more porous than Earth rocks of similar type.

Thanks
I think for photo comparisons it would be very difficult to tell the difference.

http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx06058/Publications_files/PHX_Morph.pdf
The process is so similar low humidity, high wind, salt

"[13] Strong morphological similarities exist between
245 landforms observed at the Phoenix landing site and those
246 observed in the stable upland zone, ADV [Marchant and
247 Denton, 1996; Marchant et al., 2002; Marchant and Head,
248 2007]. The Phoenix assemblage of landforms includes
249 pitted boulders, puzzle rocks, perched cobbles, and subli-
250 mation polygons [Marchant et al., 2002; Levy et al., 2008],
251 an assemblage also found in the coldest and driest regions
252 of the ADV, but atypical of the coastal thaw zone. This
253 diagnostic assemblage of landforms may be indicative of
254 equilibrium climate conditions driving geomorphic process-
255 es [Marchant and Head, 2007]. For comparison, the mean
256 annual temperature in Beacon Valley (stable upland zone) is
257 251 K, with a mean water vapor pressure of 40– 50 Pa
258 [Marchant and Head, 2007, Table 1]. In contrast, the mean
259 summer temperature in the coastal thaw zone is 268 K,"

[funbox]

Personally I believe nothing, I think about everything, and investigate everything in the hopes that in the end some of us can find proof one way or another.
Until such time I will keep an equally open mind to any possibility and I don't see how that can be a bad thing with so many proven secrets and lies that have been perpetuated against the public over the years.

not a bad thing at all , one of the reasons ive always liked you

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[ArMaP]

I don't remember seeing you dip out of the mainstream ? can you highlight some instances ?

That depends on the topic.

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That depends on the topic.

humour me

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[ArMaP]

Thanks
I think for photo comparisons it would be very difficult to tell the difference.

Difficult, maybe, but not impossible.

The comparison between Phoenix's landing site and Antarctica is a better comparison, as Phoenix landed on a location that, on Earth, corresponds to the north of Canada, close to Alaska.

PS: a test to try to identify which photos are from Earth and which are from Mars would be interesting.

[Eighthman]

This discussion has drifted into the question of alien intervention (or the lack thereof).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive

I think Star Trek fiction has value in thinking about our situation on earth. There are so many inconsistencies about non-intervention that I do wonder if all "aliens" are linked minds.  Otherwise, how could "they" control the situation? The idea that we are the center of some sort of "war" seems absurd because there would be no enforcement of non-interference.  ET's could sneak stuff in, pick sides, expose free energy technology or just Do Disclosure whenever they get bored. 

Next question, what is the explanation for why ancient civilizations were directly friendly with ET's (supposedly)?

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Next question, what is the explanation for why ancient civilizations were directly friendly with ET's (supposedly)?

cause generally humans are a good natured friendly bunch or were back then ?

a more pertinent question would be to ask why so much of history is being blown up and stolen, im not buying jihadi fanatics, way to book depository for my liking
and money motive is such a fickle bore

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[ArMaP]

humour me

I think that on the topic of Mars exploration there was something with which I did not agree in the official explanation, but I can't remember what it was.

I think it was related to those dark streaks that appear flowing down some dunes near the Martian south pole, but I'm not sure.

[Eighthman]

As to history, I think we are drifting into more accurate truth about our past.  Decades afterward, it is now easier to see British guilt in pushing the world into WW2.  There was no need to declare war because of Poland.  The 'Blitz' and naval war with Germany was unnecessary - Hitler wanted an armistice and his target was Russia, not Britain.  Churchill pushed his nation into a pointless war that led directly to the end of their Empire.

I could go on - the Confederacy had every right to leave, already established by the Declaration of Independence. Pearl Harbor was preceded by bold headlines in Honolulu newspapers that said "Japs To Attack".

I think that any Prime Directive is simply a rewording of respect for evolution.  If Aliens were to 'pick sides', i would say that their viewpoint would be closer to Taoist influenced China and international law obsessed Russia.

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As to history, I think we are drifting into more accurate truth about our past.  Decades afterward, it is now easier to see British guilt in pushing the world into WW2.  There was no need to declare war because of Poland.  The 'Blitz' and naval war with Germany was unnecessary - Hitler wanted an armistice and his target was Russia, not Britain.  Churchill pushed his nation into a pointless war that led directly to the end of their Empire.

I could go on - the Confederacy had every right to leave, already established by the Declaration of Independence. Pearl Harbor was preceded by bold headlines in Honolulu newspapers that said "Japs To Attack".

I think that any Prime Directive is simply a rewording of respect for evolution.  If Aliens were to 'pick sides', i would say that their viewpoint would be closer to Taoist influenced China and international law obsessed Russia.

the only thing Churchill was taking us to, was to see his padded cell, it was Neville chamberlin that dragged us in no doubt with a Rothschild hand up his ass


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[funbox]

I think it was related to those dark streaks that appear flowing down some dunes near the Martian south pole, but I'm not sure.

I know the ones of which you speak, seasonal appearances .. so what did you think about them that was so unpopular? ski tracks for Blue-its ?

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