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Started by thorfourwinds, July 06, 2016, 08:16:49 PM

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ArMaP

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 08, 2016, 11:46:00 PM
We thinks their 'stat counter' has a malfunction., as some members have millions of stars, etc.      :o
The counter does have a malfunction, but it only affects people that were already members at the time of the first big change in the forum software, if a post made before the change gets a star then the value added to the star counter is an absurdly high number, resulting in those millions of stars and affecting all other stats that are related to that.

zorgon

Quote from: Norval on July 09, 2016, 03:17:01 PM
, , , , VERY old news, , , , , ,

Correct ANCIENT news in fact.  They had agents in every UFO agency that formed from the beginning :D


QuoteI call them IAC agents
Information Acquisition and Control agents, , , , ,  :P

Correct. And these agents also from time to time LEAK out tidbits so that we keep going. If they didn't we would get bored and go away :P  Lately however the tidbits have been few and far between... seems they no longer care much...  at least in our fields of interest

They have a PATCH  IAO Information Awareness Office  -  DARPA (who invented the internet in the first place lest we forget :P )




zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on July 09, 2016, 04:18:43 PM
The counter does have a malfunction....

Well of what use is having a star system when they ban the top posters when they get too popular? :P

zorgon

Now then.... if you want to see WHO is SNOOPING :P


All you have to do is get your server to track and record URL's and print you a detailed list :D

There are several web stat services for a small fee will do it for you as well. Years ago while we were still at ATS and getting millions of hits because of john's and mine activities before we got the BAN :P I ran Web Stats (free for 20,000 hits a month)

They group the results anyway you want  like Education sites, Gov sites, military sites etc etc that visit your site

So here is the result of that old scan   the first page is financial institutions....  WHY all these guys visited us is a mystery :P

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/40matt_top_secret/visitor-com-financial-list.html

This one is the government agencies.  This was in our first year of running, our heyday :P  haven't run it since but I should do it just for fun

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/40matt_top_secret/visitor-gov-fed-local.html

Foreign governments;

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/40matt_top_secret/visitor-gov-foreign.html


Military :D

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/40matt_top_secret/visitor-gov-mil-list.html


It can even get specific  like UK Education URL's

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/40matt_top_secret/visitor-edu-uk-list.html

Like I said this is an old list back in 2006 when we started  I suppose it would be interesting to see what it looks like now

astr0144

Many longer term members on PRC came from ATS and maybe other forums and had known other members and come to know some by 1st Name...

I am only a newby compared to many on here..and I only mainly know most of the members by their PRC names...but I only know a few by their real first names; and some maybe I had come across their name and maybe cannot recall who they were...

But as you suggest there maybe another John...It maybe that you suggest he maybe also CIA..or similar...

The thing with the likes of John lear and his connection and story..is he may have been connected to them but also may have had issues with them so may no longer have the same connection he initially had after his situation with Bob Lazar..

If there are also other similar members..would they have similar situations or are they spies / Spooks..reporting what may be being discussed on such forums..

I was not sure if you had also been a past ATS members who may had been banned like Zorgon and John...

I recall many moved to PRC after "Z" and other ATS members helped set it up...and I was thinking most on here had either also been banned or maybe fell out with ATS..due to having too many trolls , banning top posters and deleting to many threads..

It does seem a bit of an issue if ATS stats are so mixed up and inaccurate / malfunctioned so much.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 08, 2016, 11:46:00 PM
Oh, you're speaking of that John.   :P

Silly me, although same size shoes . . .  ;)

I visit ATS frequently to add to the Fukushima mega thread, and a few of my own.

We thinks their 'stat counter' has a malfunction., as some members have millions of stars, etc.      :o

astr0144

Is this in relation to the forum "Z" or can you also do this to see who maybe visiting our own Computers maybe via our ISPs..?

If they are able to access PRC and obtain members details and then keep check on each of us ?

is that likely possible or probable ?

If so it may explain why my computer plays up so much.

If it was the likes of the CIA more than likely they have advanced spyware that no antivirus will even detect to remove it..if they had managed to place such spyware on our computers..

I had a website hacked and was given a virus about 6 years ago that no AV was able to detect and it totally destroyed all my webpages and infected my P.C at the time.. I tried all the AVs to try to resolve my computer and it never ran the same ever again..

where it came from I don't know..

or maybe there are always viruses around that AV programs are not able to heal..



QuoteNow then.... if you want to see WHO is SNOOPING :P


All you have to do is get your server to track and record URL's and print you a detailed list :D

There are several web stat services for a small fee will do it for you as well. Years ago while we were still at ATS and getting millions of hits because of john's and mine activities before we got the BAN :P I ran Web Stats (free for 20,000 hits a month)

They group the results anyway you want  like Education sites, Gov sites, military sites etc etc that visit your site

astr0144

 Does EUTM refer to    Everything Under the Moon ? or something else ?

What may they be doing if certain forums discuss material that  T.P.T.B or Spooks are monitoring us on..

There maybe times when we have indepth discussions on certain hot topics to them..

Have they ever taken any real action in any way to do anything...

what sort of egs may that be ?

or are most things we discuss just the tip of the iceberg..

should we stop discussing certain things ?

or are there certain topics best left alone...

Do some spooks actually pass on some info to us ?

are they doing it out of their own interests and taking risks in doing so !

Quote from: Shasta56 on July 09, 2016, 02:11:30 PM
EUTM has at least a couple of people watching our site.  We know that they're doing so.  We refuse to shut up about the things that they prefer kept quiet.  A few of us have noticed an uptick in strange things happening.  We just talk even more.

Shasta

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 10, 2016, 05:08:48 AM
I was not sure if you had also been a past ATS members who may had been banned like Zorgon and John...
Thor wasn't banned from ATS, his last post is from July 7. :)

QuoteIt does seem a bit of an issue if ATS stats are so mixed up and inaccurate / malfunctioned so much.
If that image really is something Thor saw after logging in then there's something wrong with it, but those are not an ATS user stats, those are stats relating to what happened since the last time an user logged in to ATS and appear only to give an idea of what has been happening.
As I never log out I do not bother with those. ;D

Edited to add that, looking better at the stats image, I can see that there's no user name at the beginning of the text, so that's nobody's stats.

funbox

QuoteAs I never log out I do not bother with those. ;D

you never log out of ATS ? ... do you know how much bandwidth you wasting with the constant adverts rolling?  hmmm but fine with not watching youtube vids because of your limited bandwidth..

funbox

ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on July 10, 2016, 05:18:29 AM
Is this in relation to the forum "Z" or can you also do this to see who maybe visiting our own Computers maybe via our ISPs..?
That's the kind of information a server gets from the browsers that ask for the pages. Whenever you visit a site the site's server gets information about your IP address (so it can know where to send the response), what browser you are using (it may make a difference in the response you get from the server) and some more information, like what page you were looking at before you navigated to that specific page, so the server can know if you came to that page from some other site that has a link to it.

QuoteIf they are able to access PRC and obtain members details and then keep check on each of us ?
That information is only accessible on the server, so "they" would need direct access to the server.

Quoteis that likely possible or probable ?
It's possible if you have access to the server.

QuoteIf so it may explain why my computer plays up so much.
It doesn't. :)

QuoteIf it was the likes of the CIA more than likely they have advanced spyware that no antivirus will even detect to remove it..if they had managed to place such spyware on our computers..
Having something on your computer it's the only way to know what's there.

QuoteI had a website hacked and was given a virus about 6 years ago that no AV was able to detect and it totally destroyed all my webpages and infected my P.C at the time.. I tried all the AVs to try to resolve my computer and it never ran the same ever again..
The problem with anti-virus is that they either know exactly what some virus looks like or they react to any thing slightly suspicious. If some program is made to avoid those things it will be ignored by the anti-virus. And we can all suspect that the anti-virus companies can get some "visitors" that ask them to look the other way when they find something. ;)

Quoteor maybe there are always viruses around that AV programs are not able to heal..
Always has, always will be, because of the way virus work.
Today's most common malware are not even behave like virus, as they do not reproduce from computer to computer, they infect a computer and remain there, either injecting adverts on people's browsers or giving access to other people so they can control the computer and use it either for more advert distribution or create those large networks of computers used in the distributed denial of service attacks done on some servers.

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on July 10, 2016, 01:40:24 PM
you never log out of ATS ?
No, and I never log out of Pegasus either. :)

Quote... do you know how much bandwidth you wasting with the constant adverts rolling?
No, and I don't care. :)

Quotehmmm but fine with not watching youtube vids because of your limited bandwidth..
I never said that, I have no download limits or bandwidth problems. :)

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on July 10, 2016, 04:26:10 PM
No, and I never log out of Pegasus either. :)

strange ive seen you disappear from the list , presumably to sleep , on many occasion


QuoteNo, and I don't care. :)

hmm the real aRmAp would have had figures and a chart.. who are you and what are you doing on ArMaPs account?

QuoteI never said that, I have no download limits or bandwidth problems. :)

hmmmmm

funbox

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on July 10, 2016, 05:18:29 AM
Is this in relation to the forum "Z" or can you also do this to see who maybe visiting our own Computers maybe via our ISPs..?

Actually to the website  as the forum is a sub directory of that website. ANY IP address is logged at the server... that is why people try to use proxy servers to hide their point of origin

it's real easy to get your IP :P  You really think there is privacy online?

::)




QuoteIf they are able to access PRC and obtain members details and then keep check on each of us ?

Those lists are visitor stats. Shows who visited from where  To check up on you they need access to the server. Even the NSA still needs papers to do that :P  They can however register an account and just have someone listen to you blabbering :P  and wait for you to put your foot into it :D\

The really funny thing is that 90% of people think that they are important enough to get watched.  LOL  yet those same people, knowing that facebook is an NSA spy trap... stillpost their daily lives and personal info.

THEY don't care... they could care less about your selfies, what you had for lunch or your current love affair...  but start talking shooting Obama, especially if your an ex marine, you will get their attention

If they really cared what us conspiracy nuts think and where upset about it  sites like ATS and us would be shut down.  But since we draw the real kooks... it is better for them to leave us alone and just watch and wait.

So have YOU made any plans to blow up a building lately or made a deal with Al Quida?  If not don't worry about sharing your secret gravy recipe :P They DON'T CARE


QuoteIf so it may explain why my computer plays up so much.

Your WORST enemy is ADVERTISERS!  THEY spy on you all the time and get you to add tool bars and apps and hidden spyware  all in the name of getting you to BUY  That is what it is all about. It is the only reason they watch you... so they can barrage you with ads based on what you like.  That clogs up the system, makes adobe flash CRASH your system and requires constant updates of spotware to keep fixing the crash issues caused by marketers\

THAT is why your system acts up... not because an alphabet sopu agency is spying on you

QuoteIf it was the likes of the CIA more than likely they have advanced spyware that no antivirus will even detect to remove it..if they had managed to place such spyware on our computers..

Why?  what would they gain? are YOU a terrorist in hiding?  They cannot spy on your computer if it is in stealth mode :P  You cannot access that which you cannot find


QuoteI had a website hacked and was given a virus about 6 years ago that no AV was able to detect and it totally destroyed all my webpages and infected my P.C at the time.. I tried all the AVs to try to resolve my computer and it never ran the same ever again..

Once a virus is let onto your computer and runs no existing anti virus will fix it. A hacker can mess things up, so you need a strong server that is hack proof  They cannot hack your website until they get past the server security. problem is with many free website offers you have no protection.

MOST viruses and hackers get in because you let them without realizing it. Those shared emails of some funny letter are the worst.  Best solution is keep all your files on a D drive and just use the C drive for the operating system. They cannot hack the D drive and neiter can a virus write to it

Quotewhere it came from I don't know..

emails. scripts hidden on websites (porn sites are the worst, but conspiracy sites come second and actually may be top by now) Those photo share sites like "10 fuuniest photos" are really bad  but they are most likely to infect you with adware and tracking

Quoteor maybe there are always viruses around that AV programs are not able to heal..


There are always new viruses etc that need you to constantly update the AV software weekly and yes free AV ware doesn't fix everything as you are getting the free version :P

HOWEVER if you are in stealth mode and have a good firewall that blocks OUTGOING communication then nothing will get in to your system

most firewalls block incoming stuff  but not outgoing. So a program can install a script and dial out your info  Outgoing blockage is a nuisance at first because you have to give permissions for programs like your browser  AND you have to be careful to not get lazy or annoyed and just click ACCEPT when you get notified (my wife does this :P defeats the purpose of the firewall)

Zone Alarm and Comodo are two good ones  My daughter likes Comodo best

For STEALTH MODE  start here (I have posted this before)

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

As for a website getting hacked. any good server will have a clean backup copy  but you should have a copy at home anyway. I do all my work at home on my version then just use FTP to upload the changes  As the computer does it faster I just upload the whole section and set it to ignore any same size files

zorgon

Quote from: funbox on July 10, 2016, 01:40:24 PM
you never log out of ATS ? ...

Never logging out does NOT mean you are actively on the forum when you are sleeping. It simply means a cookie keeps your account status as 'active' meaning everytime you open the browser you are automatically logged in again.  I do this on all my accounts like Ebay etc  But if your computer is off or your browser closed you will not appear as being online


Quotedo you know how much bandwidth you wasting with the constant adverts rolling?

ArMaP doesn't get ATS ads :P  One of the perks of long term memberships  But they steal your work :P and give you NOTHING in return for you making money with content for them  Not even a T-Shirt :  And when you mention how much money they REALLY make... you get banned :p


Quotehmmm but fine with not watching youtube vids because of your limited bandwidth..

Bandwidth has not been an issue on servers for a very very long time. Our server is unlimited traffic and unlimited bandwidth  and all our activity on all my sites and forum barely moves the meter

The ONLY issue related to bandwidth these days is IF you have tons of big files for download like music and videos   And then it is only a problem if some asshat sets a robot to repeatedly download a big file. (That is why ALL of pegasus's files are offline... but then NO ONE has ever requested to see even ONE)

::)



Sgt.Rocknroll

Quote from: zorgon on July 10, 2016, 10:39:09 PM
(That is why ALL of pegasus's files are offline... but then NO ONE has ever requested to see even ONE)

::)

Oh not true oh great one.. ;) ::) 8)
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