Donald Trump and the establishment.

[astr0144]

I think many on PRC are aware of the theories or conspiracy that there maybe a type of New World Order or Secret Illuminati that are the "Powers that be" that run the World and Control Governments..

And that some of those people maybe the likes of the Rothchilds , Rockefeller and there is also possible connections with Past Presidents of the Bush and Clinton family.. who are some of the Richest people in the World..

We have seen the likes of Alex Jones describe his theories on what goes on...and lately he seems to support Donald Trump 

D.Trump is being seen to question and talk about  so many things that Alex Jones has talked about that he suggests demonstrates the Corruption that has been said has gone on or is going on..

BUT Donald Trump is also one of the richest persons in the World...

So is he just one of the Illuminati type families ?

We recently seen Hillary Clinton get away with the FBI lost email enquirie's..

If she is as Corrupt as had been suggested..

then I think that could be a good indication that she is part of the corrupt establishment and is being covered up and she is being protected...so is she destined to become the next President... and is Trump just part of the Illuminati to make it appear he is challenging Hillary and the system...


In the UK we have had some of the main the persons who were involved in the EU referendum resign or back out..that being D.Cameron, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson...

It was initially suggested that Boris may become the next Prime minister..then they had another male contender Micheal Grove who some were saying as being more suitable..   who had earlier said he was not interested in the position....and who has since been been out rated by two Female MPs..

Now we will see another Female Prime Minister in the U.K...Maybe Teresa May..


So I wonder will we see a new British Female Prime minister and a  first Female President in the USA..?

In the UK... there was a petition made by 4 Million people who opposed the EU referendum decision..

This has now recently  been thrown out by the Government..

There are 13 families that make up the leadership of the Illuminati, they are: Astor, Bundy, Collins, DuPont, Freeman, Kennedy, Li, Onassis, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Russell, Van Duyn, Merovingian, Disney, and Reynolds. Mayer Amschel Rothschild, of the Rothschild dynasty, decided to bring the Freemasons under their control. This was done by enlisting the help of Adam Weishaupt, a Jesuit professor of Jewish descent. Weishaupt founded a secret society under the control of the Illuminati called the Order of Perfectibilists, or Bavarian Illuminati on May 1, 1776. They then infiltrated the Freemasons with the help of Baron Von Knigge and other high ranking Masons, and imposed the Illuminati doctrine within Freemasonry's highest degrees. By the time the Bavarian Illuminati were banned in 1784, they had completley took control of Freemasonry and had concealed the order within it to this very day.

The Illuminati also founded other secret societies and groups such as Skull and Bones, the Theosophical Society, Club of Rome, Round Table Groups, Rhodes Scholars, Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, Trilateral commision, the Council on Foreign Relations, Tavistock Institute, among many others.

[SerpUkhovian]

Being rich does not qualify for membership in the Illuminati.

Trump is just some upstart who made some money, but his outward display of wealth is insignificant compared to the resources behind true members of the elite bloodlines.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_55.htm

[astr0144]

That is quite an indepth article Serp Uk..that may explain about the Illuminati..

some parts too indepth for me..

The article may suggest that they have a good side to them..

Did you or any ex ATS member recall that being discussed at the time ?

and of some of the things that was suggested would happen as possible proof ..I wonder how much may have become fact..since Sept 2008 when "Hidden hand" indicated as proof of some future events that would happen.

but If so I can see what you mean..that the Illuminati is a blood line things as one main contender..

Otherwise has Trump just been chosen to act on their behalf in some way.. as would the Illiminati if they exist more than likely would have had influence as to who the contenders are..

Being rich does not qualify for membership in the Illuminati.

Trump is just some upstart who made some money, but his outward display of wealth is insignificant compared to the resources behind true members of the elite bloodlines.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_55.htm

[SerpUkhovian]

Did you or any ex ATS member recall that being discussed at the time ?.

Sorry astr0144, I have never posted at ATS.  Back in 2008 I was fully engaged in the fight against Government imposed gun control.  Trying to understand illogical Government mandates lead me to a wider search which now is focused on behind the scenes influences.  For lack of a better description, I agree that there is some type of " Illuminati " directing us in ways we do not want to go.

[zorgon]

"illuminati"  is simply a catch all word for some Star Chamber type control group that really runs the world

We have used the PTB (powers that be) Cabal, Masons, illuminati, Bilderbergers all lumped under one heading of this evil entity.

That it DOES exist there is no doubt but lumping all secret societies into one group is both wrong and a bad idea as many of these groups work for the good.   Don't forget it was Rosicrucians/Free masons that created the USA for the good of all and a place where freedom meant something.

Unfortunately the Cabal took over again in 1914 when Woodrow Wilson signed in the Federal reserve and the IRS, both PRIVATE entities. Before that there was no income tax on a free man.

I would look to the BILDERBERGERS as being the real puppet masters because:

1) The Royals of the Netherlands are key founding members Netherlands hold the World Court and the biggest oil cartel Roal Dutch Shell

2) On June 7th 2008 Hillary stepped down and announced she was supporting Obama. The day BEFORE Hillary and obama arrived at a secret meeting of the Bilderbergs in North Virginia together. They left seperately, the next day she stepped down.  I am sure she was order to step down and promised they would put her in next time (now)

Hillary & Obama In Secret Bilderberg Rendezvous
http://www.infowars.com/hillary-obama-in-secret-bilderberg-rendezvous/

Odd it was removed from prison planet but Alex Jones has a copy

3) The Rothschilds, Rockefeller, Soros and every other elite you can think of that we consider evil is a member

My bet is on the Bilderbergers running things. They fit the bill of evil self serving money grubbing war mongers

[astr0144]

Thanks for the background reminders..

I had wondered "Z",  maybe if you had considered that  the Illuminati may possibly be a Non Human related organisation ! as suggested ,Or maybe some Secret Society being connected to them as the article Serp UK posted seemed to claim...

Also if you may have seen or recalled the ATS interview in the article back in 2008..and of whom May the ATS interviewer have been ?  Was the a main Person or persons, that ran ATS like you run PRC ?

If there was a good side to any Sort of main Secret Society.. I would also wonder what they would make of Bilderberg  ..if Bilderberg is Evil ? and would they have any plans to do anything about it ?

That it DOES exist there is no doubt but lumping all secret societies into one group is both wrong and a bad idea as many of these groups work for the good.   Don't forget it was Rosicrucians/Free masons that created the USA for the good of all and a place where freedom meant something.

My bet is on the Bilderbergers running things. They fit the bill of evil self serving money grubbing war mongers

[ArMaP]

Also if you may have seen or recalled the ATS interview in the article back in 2008..and of whom May the ATS interviewer have been ?  Was the a main Person or persons, that ran ATS like you run PRC ?

Not an interview, that was a thread (this one) on ATS. The questions came from several members.

[zorgon]

I had wondered "Z",  maybe if you had considered that  the Illuminati may possibly be a Non Human related organisation ! as suggested ,Or maybe some Secret Society being connected to them as the article Serp UK posted seemed to claim..

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No I am 100% certain they are just evil humans  I suppose they are alien in the sense that I just don't understand what drives them to want it ALL   Soros, Rockefeller and the head Rothschils and the Queen of England are all old fossils  barely hanging on to life.  When they are gone things will get better.  Why? because their siblings are 'new money' and do not have the same drive for power as the old fossils. greedy and evil yes, but not the same level as the silver spoon in their mouth would have toned them down as spoiled brats

Also if you may have seen or recalled the ATS interview in the article back in 2008..and of whom May the ATS interviewer have been ?  Was the a main Person or persons, that ran ATS like you run PRC ?

ATS is run by an Evil Cabal of Alien Shapeshifting Reptilians     ArMaP may argue that I DO know that ATS was originally funded by three jewish 'businessmen' that 'donated $1 million each to make ATS what they wanted.  THAT I got form the horses mouth as it were in the days when John and I were being asked to put all our resources into ATS... Well Mark had been drinking a lot that night  

But we were going to go on tour to UFO conventions, I was going to build a booth.... Mark suggested my server could not handle the traffic so I would be better putting all my files on ATS

Those were the good old days  before the weather changed at ATS  and the planned trips to UFO conventions became "not worth their time"  Spilling the beans on ATS finances is a good way to get the boot

If there was a good side to any Sort of main Secret Society.. I would also wonder what they would make of Bilderberg  ..if Bilderberg is Evil ? and would they have any plans to do anything about it ?

RThe problem with evil is that it has no ethics  It is not stronger but it appears that way. IF there were no powers of good working to balance things and the Cabal had absolute control, we would not be here talking about it     The last time the good Secret Societies made a major move, the US of A was created.

The problem is WE THE PEOPLE are fickle and easy to sway to the dark side. Just wave money at the people and they will come to you like hogs to the trough. NO group can fight that urge... so in the end the Evil Bank Cartels took control.

The only way back is another revolution. It may happen because gun sales have been at record high for months as the Sleeping Giant stocks up...  I am too old to start a revolution   but maybe my rusty sword can take out a few



Also don't forget that most Secret Societies were Mystic Schools  more interested in the powers of the Soul than the mundane world

[Lunica]

The only way back is another revolution. It may happen because gun sales have been at record high for months as the Sleeping Giant stocks up...  I am too old to start a revolution   but maybe my rusty sword can take out a few

I think the financial system will fall at the end by implosion automatically, Europe will fall into something and also the system USA as it is now. Britain was first.
Something will happen, hey.. the president of the EU is a official drunk idiot. That helps a lot.

[ArMaP]

ATS is run by an Evil Cabal of Alien Shapeshifting Reptilians     ArMaP may argue that I DO know that ATS was originally funded by three jewish 'businessmen' that 'donated $1 million each to make ATS what they wanted.

No comments. 

[Eighthman]

http://investmentwatchblog.com/bush-crazy-dance-at-dallas-memorial-disrespectful-george-w-bush-or-symbolism/

Whatever the structural reality of the Cabal, let us remember that these people are fallible humans.  They take drugs, have drinking problems, get old and stupid or just plain crazy.  Juncker (EU leader) created embarrassment recently by being drunk and foolish in public.

Looking at US hegemony and EU servility, I can only say, "those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

[space otter]

ya think any of 'em believe in reincarnation?

[zorgon]

ya think any of 'em believe in reincarnation?

That is a good question....

The way they cling to life (Rockefeller is on his 5th heart transplant) I assume that they do not.  Many are religious but are often accused of worshipping Satan so no reincarnation there.

Since the Bilderbergs are not an Esoteric society but one based on money and power, most likely they have lost the path of spiritualism. Even modern Masons just go through the motions. My dad was a master mason... I have his books and apron etc... but he said it was all just a business club where you helped each other get ahead. The rituals etc were just done as a habit... the common Masons have long forgotten the purpose and meaning.  It is to be noted that to join the masons you must believe in a god  not necessarily the Biblical god these days but you must have a deity...

The Rosicrucians on the other hand have no such stipulation

[astr0144]

Unconventional #40: The 'Everybody Hates Hillary' Edition..

I have seen various things suggesting Hillary for Prison on various lesser websites..but I am not sure I have seen them on the main well known websites..

This is one posted today on Yahoo !

If there is truths to this in terms of any bad stuff it is suggested she has been involved with.. then you would think only the Corrupt establishment can save her now !

Lock her up !

"You won't believe it."

That was Donald Trump Jr. announcing from the floor of the Quicken Loans Arena that his father had finally, officially won the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

He was right. Donald Trump! The flashy New York real estate developer. The pouting, squinting reality-television star. The man behind Trump Steaks. It was almost impossible to believe.

Then it was almost easy to forget.

With the notable exception of Don Jr. — whose speech was a polished paean to his father and free-market principles — and a few other nonpoliticians, the speakers Tuesday rarely touched on the theme of the night ("Make America Work Again"), and most of them barely mentioned Trump.

They did, however, talk about some woman named Hillary Clinton. A lot.

Some of the evening's monomaniacal Hillary focus was strategic on Trump's part. Some of it was politicians — like House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — sticking to a subject that's still more comfortable for them to talk about than their party's controversial nominee.

Still, the ratio was remarkably skewed.

Unconventional did the math. Based on prepared remarks, Trump — ostensibly the man of the hour — was mentioned by name 73 times Tuesday night.

Clinton was mentioned 107 times.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Trump's brokenhearted VP also-ran, was a perfect example. He started his speech with 60 words — three sentences — about how Trump has been "a caring, genuine and decent" friend of his "for the last 14 years."

Then Christie pivoted. "But this election is not just about Donald Trump," he said, as if he had already exhausted the topic. "It is also about his Democratic opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton." The governor then spent the next 1,200 words excoriating Clinton "for her performance and her character."

Benghazi, the emails, Monica Lewinsky, even Satan — it was all there, in speech after speech after speech.

"As first lady, you viciously attacked the character of women who were victims of sexual abuse at the hands of your husband," said RNC Co-Chair Sharon Day.

"Friends, not since Baghdad Bob has there been a public figure with such a tortured relationship with the truth," added McConnell.

"Are we willing to elect as president someone who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges Lucifer?" wondered retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, veering off-script to connect Clinton — via the subject of her senior thesis, community organizer Saul Alinsky — to the Prince of Darkness.

"Lock her up!" yelled the delegates.

Trump — who appeared via satellite hookup — will return to Cleveland tomorrow. He will accept the nomination on Thursday. Whether anyone other than his employees, friends or family members manages to sound half as passionate about his candidacy as they do about, say, Benghazi — that remains to be seen.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconventional-40-day-three-everybody-000000573.html


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Soros lays out his plan for Europe to avoid 'catastrophe'

Whats Soros planning !!!

Billionaire financier George Soros has detailed a seven-point plan to alleviate Europe's refugee crisis which he believes could help the continent avoid a catastrophe.

"If significant progress could be made on the refugee issue, it would make the other issues — from the continuing Greek debt crisis to the fallout from Brexit to the challenge posed by Russia — easier to tackle," he said in an opinion piece on Tuesday for the Foreign Policy publication.

"All the pieces need to fit together, and the chances of success remain slim. But as long as there is a strategy that might succeed, all the people who want the European Union to survive should rally behind it."

In 2015, over 1 million migrants and asylum seekers reached the EU via the Mediterranean , according to advocacy group Human Rights Watch. Soros argues that the EU's current stance is not fit for purpose and points out that an influx of refugees and economic migrants to Germany last year has stoked anti-immigration sentiment. He said that this current approach of individual countries applying piecemeal solutions is failing and has suggested seven goals for Europe's policymakers.
Firstly, he believes that the EU should make a commitment to admit at least 300,000 refugees each year from front-line countries. He also believes that the EU should regain control of its borders - avoiding shambolic scenes witnessed on global TV networks - and provide Greece and Italy with sufficient funds to care for asylum seekers.

Thirdly, he believes that the EU should loosen its purse strings and relax budgetary rules. He sees at least 30 billion euros ($33 billion) a year as being needed for the EU to carry out a comprehensive asylum plan.

"These funds are needed both inside the union — to build effective border and asylum agencies and ensure dignified reception conditions, fair asylum procedures, and opportunities for integration — as well as outside its borders — to support refugee-hosting countries and spur job creation throughout Africa and the Middle East," he states in the article.
He also suggests that the refugee crisis must be used to build common European mechanisms for "protecting borders, determining asylum claims, and relocating refugees." Once these refugees have been recognized, he says that there needs to be a mechanism for relocating them within Europe in an agreed way.

His sixth recommendation is that the European Union, along with the international community, must support foreign refugee-hosting countries far more generously than it currently does. His last proposal is that, given its aging population, Europe must eventually create an environment in which economic migrants are welcome.
"The benefits brought by migration far outweigh the costs of integrating immigrants. Skilled economic immigrants improve productivity, generate growth, and raise the absorptive capacity of the recipient country," he said.
Soros underlines that the very existence of the European Union is currently at stake, adding that it would be the "height of irresponsibility and a dereliction of duty" to allow the EU to disintegrate without utilizing all its financial resources.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/soros-lays-plan-europe-avoid-134214250.html

[zorgon]

Hillary will NEVER be arrested  she has too much dirt on the others

People involved with the Clintons tend to turn up dead... the body count is high

Soros is driving the anti-Trump campaign because Hillary is his project and he has spent a lot of money getting her in  I wouldn't trust Soros to comke yup with any SANE solution


Trump is popular by all poles taken. No one I know tallks about voting for the Witch... so IF she does get 'ellected' then we are doomed and there is no hope for us