Why "Three Months" ?

[Eighthman]

http://finance.yahoo.com/m/aa241d6c-f8ee-3532-b8b0-bd7fc9acf567/goldman-sachs-says-stay-away.html

Goldman Sachs says 'stay away from the stock market' for the next 3 months.  As if some big event happens in 3 months, whose coming is distorting stock prices higher, right now. As if some Powerful Set Of Moneyed Interests is creating a false image of prosperity so that the American people are deceived into thinking that the US is 'still great' - and makes a Great Choice Accordingly.

Got a 401K?   Caveat Emptor

[Eighthman]

Sorry to reply to my own post but....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-earnings-valuation-confusion-000000604.html

Reports that the market makes no sense.  It makes no sense unless you figure out what's happening....

[space otter]

guess that's what they call a conspiracy theory



i see the hillary hate here and have no objections to anyone's thoughts, ideas or emotions or beliefs
but i hope before you vote (if you do) you do your due diligence on BOTH

[Eighthman]

Both Hillary and Trump are liars and cheats.  Anybody disagree with that?

Here's the critical point: we have 4 candidates for President. 3 of them condemn pointless wars And The Remaining Candidate Does Not!  The US is now risking WW3 as well as its own economic ruin by wasteful wars and hostility.

Hillary's track record on war is horrible.  I believe Trump in rejecting NATO, Korea and poking Russia for 2 reasons. 1) big cuts to the military are all that's left to pay for infrastructure, etc  and 2) Trump is risking his health and life by threatening the military-industrial complex. (as with JFK and 9/11) - which suggests credibility.

President Eisenhower was afraid the US would become "an insolvent phantom" because of too much militarism. That's where we're headed.

[Pimander]

Both Hillary and Trump are liars and cheats.  Anybody disagree with that?

What a choice.  I can't disagree.

[space otter]

yeah that's what i've been saying.. yuk to both

but right now  after watching him i don't think he is playing with folks anymore.. i think he believes everything he says..look who his idiots  (edit.. i meant idols lol ) are.. dictators of russia and n korea
he doesn't want to govern he wants to rule..so no vote for him (speaking only for myself)


todays batch from huff post..go there if you need to read any further
Why Trump Is Uniquely Unqualified To Speak About Service And Sacrifice... Military Heavyweights Hammer Trump... Vets In Congress Tighten Screws On Paul Ryan: Revoke Endorsement... Trump Claims Khizr Khan Was Mad About His Tough On Terror Positions... Has Trump Gone Too Far?... Campaign Pleads With Congress For Support In Khan Attacks...
Trump 'Afraid The Election Is Going To Be Rigged'
POLL PAIN: Trump Struggles After Conventions...

Donald Trump: 'I'm Afraid The Election Is Going To Be Rigged'
Desperate Trump Campaign Turns To Congress For Support In Attacks Against Khan Family
Military Mom Booed For Questioning Trump's Attack On Khan Family
Donald Trump Calls Hillary Clinton 'The Devil'



but this one is first person

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hired-me-as-an-attorneyplease-dont_us_579e52dee4b00e7e269fb30f?section=&
I Was An Attorney For Trump. Trust Me, You Don't Want Him As President.
Thomas M. Wells
Attorney and businessman with offices in NJ and Vermont and ho.


but this quote alone is enough to scare the bejebers outta me cause he believes it


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters/
Trump: I could shoot somebody and not lose voters

if that alone doesn't scare you..

[rdunk]

What a choice.  I can't disagree.

I disagree! We do have the proof that Hillary is a liar - I have not see any proof that Trump is a LIAR?? What is he lying about with what he has said? I am not going to get into a back-and-forth on this, but some of the above statements about Trump are not factual either, relative to Russia, and to  the military being reduced. Trump has not rejected NATO, he simply has said that all NATO countries need to be paying their fair share!! Trump is not talking about "cuts in military - rather he is talking about rebuilding the military that has been "wasted" by the current administration.  

No, Trump wasn't my guy either in the primaries, but he for sure is the right choice now for this country in the coming Presidential elections - unless you are ready for Shira Law to be the law of our land, with Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[space otter]

I am not going to get into a back-and-forth on this

too late

[Pimander]

I disagree! We do have the proof that Hillary is a liar - I have not see any proof that Trump is a LIAR??

Trump said he is close to Putin right?  He has never met the guy.  He is a liar.

[rdunk]

Trump said he is close to Putin right?  He has never met the guy.  He is a liar.

I say, "I am "close" to a few people I have met here" - do you think that to be a lie too??

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Trump said he is close to Putin right?  He has never met the guy.  He is a liar.

not necessarily. Being close can mean a lot of things. Business is business...
I'm close to Dr. Joe Resnick, but I've never met him...does that make me a liar?

it's perspective....

[space otter]

no apologizes what so ever on your disillusionment.. but then you probably won't beleive anything.. cause the white men good old boys club is well represented here and will probably come back with some cover for him..like he's just misunderstood 



bet no one reads it

but still check out the number of sources

this is just the putin thing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/08/01/lies-lies-and-more-lies/
By Jennifer Rubin August 1

Lies, lies and more lies

On Sunday, Donald Trump denied that he had any relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with ABC News.

Trump added his previous talk of him having a relationship with Putin was just the two saying nice things about each other.

"I don't know what it means by having a relationship," Trump added. "I mean, he was saying very good things about me. But I don't have a relationship with him."

In 2014, during a speech at CPAC[,] Trump, though, boasted about meeting with Putin's advisers — even receiving a gift and personal note from Putin during the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. . . .

In 2013, Trump told MSNBC he had a relationship with Putin. Mother Jones posted video last week of Trump saying he talked "indirectly and directly" with Putin in a 2014 press conference.

Trump also repeatedly said in the GOP presidential debates that he got to know Putin when both were on 60 Minutes. Now he says he wouldn't know him from Adam (considering he doesn't know Russia troops are in the Crimea, the last part might be true).

As with so many things, the question for Donald Trump is: Was he lying then or lying now? It's equally likely he was lying back in 2013 and 2014 to make himself sound more important as it is that he is lying now to avoid sounding too chummy with the authoritarian he openly admires and consistently praises.

Meanwhile, Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort asserts the Trump team never did anything to take out of the platform support for defensive arms to Ukraine. My colleague Josh Rogin reports otherwise and says Manafort is lying. I'm going with Josh's version on this one — as should any sentient being.

Trump says he got a letter from the NFL pleading with him to reschedule the debates. The NFL says there was no letter. In the absence of, well, the letter, I'll believe the NFL on this one.

Trump repeatedly said he would release his tax returns. Then he said he couldn't because some years were being audited. No, he's produced no audit letter nor logically explained why he couldn't release some years' returns. Now he says Mitt Romney lost because of his tax returns, suggesting that he just doesn't want to release them because the demands for the returns are less painful than releasing what is in the returns.

A boastful billionaire who says he's been super generous to charity, you'd think, wouldn't mind showing us just how rich and generous he is. Trump, a raving narcissist, however won't let them out. I'm going with the theory they show he's not so rich, not so generous and very good at paying little or no tax.

He lied about giving all that money to veterans' charities — until The Post's reporting forced him to cough up some money. The Post's reporting says he has not given a dime to charity since 2008. He claims to have given "anonymously." No recipients offered to come forward at the convention or anywhere else. Given that Trump brags incessantly about his charitable giving, there should be loads of beneficiaries, so I'll go with the theory he's not been charitable at all since 2008.

Trump lied, saying that it wasn't his voice on a tape pretending to be his own publicist, even though in the past he said he would do this sort of thing.

He lied about seeing widespread celebrations by American Muslims on 9/11. He lies about what Hillary Clinton is proposing (e.g. "repeal the Second Amendment," "open borders"). He lies when caught saying something objectionable (e.g. his ear piece wasn't working).

No wonder he's gotten 4 Pinocchios from The Post — 33 times. Perhaps we should instead start keeping track of the times he tells the truth. It would be less work.


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Lyin' Donald: 101 Of Trump's Greatest Lies | Daily Wire
www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien
Apr 11, 2016 - When Politico attempted to measure how many lies Trump told over the .... March 8: Lying about how much was spent in one week against him: ...


A fact checker looked into 158 things Donald Trump said. 78 percent ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../donald-trump-has-been-wrong...The Washington Post
Jul 1, 2016 - 78 percent of fact-checked Trump statements have been rated Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire. ... Which is fine. But numbers don't lie.

Of the 158 Trump claims that PolitiFact has checked out, 95 have been rated either "False" or "Pants on Fire." That's 60 percent of all Trump claims. As PolitiFact notes, if you include the Trump statements rated "mostly false" in that group, 78 percent of all of Trump's fact-checked claims have been scored "mostly false" or worse.

That's not even the most amazing fact in the PolitiFact report. That honor goes to this: "Trump has more statements rated Pants on Fire, 30, than the 21 other candidates for president we've fact-checked this cycle combined." Ben Carson comes in second in "Pants on Fire" ratings -- with four!

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15 Hours of Donald Trump's Lies
Daily Beast? - 17 hours ago
15 Hours of Donald Trump's Lies ... last week and, in doing so, pointedly criticized Trump's .........

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/29/donald-trump-lies-this-week-russia-ted-cruz-dnc


Donald Trump's Week of Lies, Outrages, Broken Promises, and Shady ...
reason.com/blog/2016/07/29/donald-trumps-week-of-lies-outrages-brok


4 days ago - The GOP candidate's bizarre but revealing counter-programing to the DNC.
The 5 Biggest Lies in Donald Trump's Hillary Attack Speech | Alternet
www.alternet.org/election-2016/debunking-biggest-lies-trumps-speech
AlterNet


Trump retreats from claim that NFL sent letter regarding debates ...
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../trump-retreats-from-claim-that-n...
Profootballtalk.com
2 days ago - Presidential candidate Donald Trump doesn't like the fact that two of the three scheduled debates conflict with NFL prime-time games.

Debate Committee Rebuffs Donald Trump's Complaints of N.F.L. ...
www.nytimes.com/2016/.../donald-trump-debate-nfl-conflict.htmlThe New York Times
2 days ago - The Commission on Presidential Debates released a statement saying it had started planning the debate schedule 18 months ago and that it ...


The NFL Calls Trump Out on ANOTHER Lie | RedState
www.redstate.com/joesquire/2016/07/30/nfl-calls-trump-another-lie/
RedState
3 days ago - Donald Trump appears to have been caught in another lie, and this time it's the NFL calling him out on it. Earlier today, he made headlines ...



yeah i know it's obama but he's right..imo of course

Trump's gaffes aren't "episodic," Obama said.

"This is daily and weekly where they are distancing themselves from statements he's making," he said. "There has to be a point at which you say this is not somebody I can support for president of the United States."



to me when he said that McCain wasn't a hero because he got captured really got under my skin
and  his 4th deferment from sevice for heel spurs when he played 3 sports..but i guess that was just being rich not anything  else   
just distasteful rich guy crap but not  lies

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-military_us_579f6933e4b0e2e15eb66f92?section=&
Why Donald Trump Is Uniquely Unqualified To Speak About Military Service And Sacrifice
Below are some of the most controversial claims Trump has made about the military ? his own experiences and those of others.

Trump claimed that his military prep school was just like going to war.
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Trump managed to evade a nationwide draft during the Vietnam War.

According to D'Antonio's book The Truth About Trump, here's what happened.

"I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number," [Trump] told a TV interviewer in 2011. "I'll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life." In fact the lottery was not a factor in his experience. It didn't occur until fourteen months after he received his medical exemption [for heel spurs], and eighteen months after he'd left Penn.
When reporters asked Trump about the medical deferment earlier this year, he couldn't recall which foot had the bone spurs.
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Trump once compared his own efforts to avoid sexually transmitted diseases to the Vietnam War.
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.Trump claims he's given away millions of dollars of his own money to Vietnam and Iraq war veterans. But his refusal to release his tax returns makes this impossible to confirm.

As a co-chairman of the New York Vietnam Veterans Memorial Commission in 1985, Trump took credit for the construction of a 90,000-square-foot plaza, completed that year. But Trump's fellow commissioners said he had "been to only two or three out of 20 meetings," according to a November 1984 report in the Washington Post.

When the Post presented Trump with those allegations, he responded by playing down the military service of others involved in the initiative.

"That's interesting. I'll resign then," said Trump. "They're very small thinkers. They're stockbrokers that were in Vietnam and they don't have it."

The Vietnam Veterans Plaza eventually named Trump its 2008 honoree of the year, citing the businessman's $1 million contribution to the project.

A spokeswoman for the Trump campaign did not reply to a request from HuffPost for documentation of Trump's $1 million for the Vietnam Veterans Plaza.
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Trump lobbied for years to have homeless veterans kicked out of their vendors' stalls on Fifth Avenue.
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Trump's business ventures have violated laws intended to protect service members from discrimination due to their military service.
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yeah not a lie but totally ignorant yet this is a guy you would defend  because his rival is femal

Trump mocked the sacrifice of one of America's most admired veterans.

In 2015, Trump mocked Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for being shot down over North Vietnam in 1967. As a prisoner of war, McCain spent five years in prison, where he was subjected to torture that left him physically scarred to this day.

"He's a war hero because he was captured," Trump said. "I like people who weren't captured".

Trump bragged about his personal contribution of $1 million to veterans groups for months. But he hadn't actually contributed anything. 

          





edit to add

Z..sorry this should all be in the politic section..instead of the main board...
and as opinionated as i am i will try to refrain from continuing..minds are already made up
and we don't need an un-civil war of words

[Pimander]

I say, "I am "close" to a few people I have met here" - do you think that to be a lie too??

You are not close to them though are you?  Yes, that's a lie.

He also disagrees with the American Constitution.  Is that OK with you?

[space otter]

this is today..every day it's something else..
i do not want this  man running my country

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blasts-rigged-system-and-crying-baby/ar-BBv9Fcn?li=BBnb7Kz

Trump blasts 'rigged system' and crying baby
USA TODAY USA TODAY
David Jackson
4 hrs ago

he's a self promoting cry baby and  is already calling the election rigged
wow what if he would win.. then what would he say

and he doesn't want the general press at his functions.. just the ones  he picks..now who does that sound like to you
stomping my foot cause i really really do care.. going to my garden

[funbox]

can Obama get in to have a few digs too ?



funbox