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There Is A Second ET Email

Started by Eighthman, October 10, 2016, 07:22:39 PM

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A51Watcher

Quote from: ArMaP on October 10, 2016, 08:15:44 PM
Apparently, Tom DeLonge says that "Roswell was a Russian craft".

Yes that one line tweet from Tom explains it all, right?  ::)

Sadly Tom seems unaware of how that explanation does not fit for several different reasons.

I note that 3 of his 'A list' sources revealed so far are Air Force officers.

He is probably too young to remember the various AFOSI Aviary disinformation campaigns that ended up ruining the careers of more than one UFO researcher.

The interview/documentary 'In search of tone' about him shows him to be a fairly articulate intelligent person very open to new ideas and information, and also willing to reevaluate past convictions and assumptions. 

So even if he stumbles and falls this time around, I suspect he will return with plan B.

If nothing else, Tom is persistent.


zorgon

Podesta and Cameron are pushing to try to get the UFO crowd vote for Hillary...

I am pretty sure that those in the UFO community are to smart to fall for that crap right? 

There is NO WAY Hillary a) knows anything or b) would ever reveal anything if she did.

Her hubby Bill didn't even look into it until his second term and when he did all he did was send an aide to Area 51, who was told "Nope no aliens here, just secret airplanes" And that was that.

If any UFO nut votes for Hillary based on this crap I am giving them a full permanent BAN for stupidity :P

I and others have been following Camerons' push on FAcebook.  Most agree that Hillary would NEVER be 'in the know' or release anything. She is a pathological liar and will do anything to get a vote.

Surely you guys are smart enough to see that?

::)

Eighthman

I wholeheartedly agree that Hillary is a broadgauge liar however things such as this can take on life of their own. I was just reading about how Pastafarianism has gained legal status in some countries despite being a joke.

Some years ago, I read a brief blog that Bill had given a paid speech in Asia in which he said he was told that Roswell was true. It vanished completely (as such things do).

I think we are seeing a 'first level' of classified stuff.  It can be suggestive but I hope for deeper revelations about US support for ISIS, stuff on Aliens and more.  We are living in a weird time, unlike anything I've ever seen.  I have this nagging feeling that, one day, we will look back and understand these events in retrospect.  It could be that we are being prepared for a radically different world order.

Eighthman

Oh, and one other thought germane to this site:  if Aliens exist and are preventing nuclear war then  the conclusion is inescapable - the USA is unfit to dominate the world.

Experts say we haven't been this close to WW3 in decades especially with regard to the Middle East.  Meanwhile, the US media is as crotch obsessed as ever. The possibility of impeding nuclear war doesn't even make the headlines here. It's utterly irresponsible.

Spiderman comics wisely told kids, "with great power comes great responsibility".  Let's throw in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Honduras and Afghanistan - the US needs to be neutralized as a world power and this is why I see this as a likely Alien imperative.  So, if you guys are really out there.....

Pimander

It isn't the President's decision what the President knows so the whole thing is nonsense. I do believe Podesta wants documents releasing but it is irrelevant.

Irene

Somewhat off-topic, but I believe it's important to understand who these people are and why. This is a "Frontline" documentary.

The Choice 2016

In watching it I learned that Hillary was conditioned to extreme secrecy from early in her career.

Draw your own conclusions. Mine are that she has a weak moral compass.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Pimander

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Quote from: Irene on October 12, 2016, 03:25:20 PM
Draw your own conclusions. Mine are that she has a weak moral compass.
Hardly surprising.  You have had Nixon, Bush Sr., Bush Jr, Clinton and now you have either Hilary or Trump.  Not one of them have a remotely strong moral compass by a decent persons standards.

Has it occurred to you guys that it isn't the people that are the problem but the nature of the "democratic" process you use to select them.  If it requires massive amounts of cash to reach the office of President then you will get corrupt individuals who can get there.  Bernie Sanders got close without being morally retarded but, again, the system was weighted against him.

Part of the solution would be all candidates only being allowed to campaign with a set amount of money from the state.  Then they can't be so easily bought for donations.  It would also help if they were not allowed to have links to any large businesses for completely obvious reasons.

Irene

Quote from: Pimander on October 12, 2016, 05:18:19 PM
Hardly surprising.  You have had Nixon, Bush Sr., Bush Jr, Clinton and now you have either Hilary or Trump.  Not one of them have a remotely strong moral compass by a decent persons standards.

Has it occurred to you guys that it isn't the people that are the problem but the nature of the "democratic" process you use to select them.  If it requires massive amounts of cash to reach the office of President then you will get corrupt individuals who can get there.  Bernie Sanders got close without being morally retarded but, again, the system was weighted against him.

Part of the solution would be all candidates only being allowed to campaign with a set amount of money from the state.  Then they can't be so easily bought for donations.  It would also help if they were not allowed to have links to any large businesses for completely obvious reasons.

We know exactly what the problem is. The fact is that we are powerless to fix it.

Our "government representatives" have woven such a protective web around themselves that they are practically untouchable, and the corruption is legendary.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Pimander

Quote from: Irene on October 12, 2016, 05:48:56 PM
We know exactly what the problem is. The fact is that we are powerless to fix it.
That just isn't true.  The problem is that people want some saviour to sort it for them (and that saviour clearly isn't the morally challenged Trump or H Clinton).

The government has the power people give it.  If the will for change is there then change will happen but people have to do more than hope Donald Trump will do it for them.

ETA:  The criticism wasn't directed at you Irene, it is a call to our brothers and sisters over the pond.  It's bad here but the problems are different ones.

Irene

Quote from: Pimander on October 12, 2016, 06:57:11 PM
That just isn't true.  The problem is that people want some saviour to sort it for them (and that saviour clearly isn't the morally challenged Trump or H Clinton).

The government has the power people give it.  If the will for change is there then change will happen but people have to do more than hope Donald Trump will do it for them.

ETA:  The criticism wasn't directed at you Irene, it is a call to our brothers and sisters over the pond.  It's bad here but the problems are different ones.

Well, people want a savior when they are overwhelmed, especially on all fronts, as we are.

Apathy is a definite problem, bread and circuses placates the masses while the corrupt consolidate power.

They won't hesitate to use our own troops against us. How do you fight the establishment when you know that either way the house wins?
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

Pimander

I agree that apathy is the problem.

Quote from: Irene on October 12, 2016, 07:17:45 PM
They won't hesitate to use our own troops against us. How do you fight the establishment when you know that either way the house wins?
How did women and black people get the vote?  How was slavery abolished?  How was child labour abolished?  How did scientists begin to get the freedom to pronounce truths that contradict the Bible?  How did the great monarchies fall or have to concede power to democracy?

There is history there.

guerande



  "  Part of the solution would be all candidates only being allowed to campaign with a set amount of money from the state.  Then they can't be so easily bought for donations.  It would also help if they were not allowed to have links to any large businesses for completely obvious reasons.  "

That's what we have here , in France . And it has never been so messy !!!
The solution is not here ... will have to find something different : )

Guerande

Pimander

Quote from: guerande on October 12, 2016, 07:49:59 PM

  "  Part of the solution would be all candidates only being allowed to campaign with a set amount of money from the state.  Then they can't be so easily bought for donations.  It would also help if they were not allowed to have links to any large businesses for completely obvious reasons.  "

That's what we have here , in France . And it has never been so messy !!!
The solution is not here ... will have to find something different : )

Guerande
I did say part of the solution.  It definitely helps though.  Corporations and private interests should not be deciding who wins elections.

This why the BBC is better than privately owned media.  Again not perfect, but much better than people like Rupert Murdock owning coverage of elections.

It also help s when populations are educated enough to know when politicians are using the same rhetoric that we heard before the NAZI party took over.  Trump and Marine Le Pen are both using similar language to what the Nazis used.  That frightens me.

rdunk

Quote from: Pimander on October 12, 2016, 07:41:32 PM
IHow did scientists begin to get the freedom to pronounce truths that contradict the Bible? 

There is history there.

And what "truths" might you be referring to??  :o

Norval

Quote from: rdunk on October 12, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
And what "truths" might you be referring to??  :o

awwwwww god, did you have to ask him that ! ! !  ::)   :P   ;)
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